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  1. Is JQJ supposed to be a QB for UT or play another position? His passing stats are underwhelming.

    Than again, Tom Herman has a history of coaching dual-threat QBs who were underwhelming passers in H.S. into good college QBs at both tOSU & UH.

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    13 minutes ago, TheMailBox357 said:

    Can y'all explain what RB1 is? I haven't kept up with day-to-day (or week-to-week) recruiting since the the 2017 class.

     

    10 minutes ago, satyanash said:

    Pretty common tumour-suppressor gene involved in the cellular-division cycle.

    (alternately, RB1 = workhorse, RB2 = complementary back)

     

    10 minutes ago, texifornia said:

    Usually a bigger, tougher back who can withstand a lot of hits. Think Keaontay Ingram.

    That vs a smaller, faster guy who you'd use situationally.

    So basically:

     

    RB1 = Featured star workhorse RB

    RB2 = Flex RB/All-Purpose RB or Goalline power RB

     

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  3. 11 hours ago, TheMailBox357 said:

    Yeah, when I think back to how our defense fell off big time twice this decade after losing a lot of upperclassmen starters to graduation/NFL draft (After the 2011 season under Manny Diaz & after the 2014 season under Vance Bedford/Strong), I think folks aren't being realistic if they aren't expecting a dropoff on defense due to inexperience.

     

    10 hours ago, BigHorn'13 said:

    It's been stated several times that we're actually going to get better because the sucky guys are gone. Simple logic when you think about it, really. 

    Who were supposed to be the sucky guys?

     

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  4. On 5/25/2019 at 6:31 PM, texifornia said:

    I think we go 10-4 again due to infuriating inexperience on D, but I'll be so so happy to be proven wrong.

    Yeah, when I think back to how our defense fell off big time twice this decade after losing a lot of upperclassmen starters to graduation/NFL draft (After the 2011 season under Manny Diaz & after the 2014 season under Vance Bedford/Strong), I think folks aren't being realistic if they aren't expecting a dropoff on defense due to inexperience.

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  5. I watched some of the 2002 season & maybe a little bit of the 2001 season, but the 2003 season was my first full season watching UT football & college football in general. VY became the fulltime starting QB over Chance Mock after the RRS game basically because VY was a freak talent UT wanted to take advantage of, NOT because he was a better QB than Chance Mock. VY wasn't a good enough passer back in '03, like Chance Mock was or like VY eventually became in '05, to take advantage of our star WRs. 

    So I only remember seeing Roy Williams beasting in that 2003 Cotton Bowl against Nick Saban-coached LSU tigers, the first half of the 2003 season, & the 2003 TTU game at home when Chance Mock came in the game to bail out VY in the 2nd half.

     

    That 2003 UT team is probably Greg Davis' Magnum Opus to show how bad an OC he was, NOT the 2010 team. It makes my blood boil to think about how dominant OU was on offense that year, but UT had more talent than OU did on offense & underachieved.

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  6. 14 hours ago, angelos's frog said:

    A Veer & Shoot is what Briles ran and what UT ran under Sterlin Gilbert.  TCU has been running more of a Holgerson type modified Air Raid similar to what OSU and WVU ran.  If this is true, maybe we're changing so that we will be running something different than what everyone else is running.  Makes it harder for the defenses to prepare.  Maybe . . . I'm just spitballing because this is the first I've heard of it.  Of course if the 247 guys had leaked something like this GP would have their heads.  He's super paranoid.  

     

    13 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

    Seems odd with Sonny Cumbie's background to completely switch from the Air Raid offense to a Briles veer and shoot type of offense.  Maybe the 9.95ers got it a little wrong..... maybe Cumbie has just tweaked the TCU Air Raid to add more plays to their running game??

     

    After reading that Smart Football blog post a few months ago, I came to the conclusion being an Air Raid offense just comes down to whether you run an Air Raid passing game or not. What a team does in running game doesn't really matter. All of the Air Raid teams in the Big 12 & throughout CFB do different things in the run game from each other.

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  7. 41 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:
     

    The low key story from TCU’s spring is that they moved to a veer and shoot style vertical passing attack. Baldwin is their new best option to execute that IF he can sync up with Reagor in time battling 5 dudes for snaps.

     

    1) So what's different about a veer and shoot style vertical passing attack compared to what TCU previously ran in 2018??

    2) In a veer type offense the QB typically runs a lot right -- I thought Baldwin was supposed to be more of a Pro-Style QB??

    1. TCU has been running an Air Raid passing attack for the past 5 seasons.

    UT ran the Veer & Shoot in 2016, so you should already be familiar with it. If you're not sure what an Air Raid passing game looks like, here's a good 2012 article from Smart Football blog that breaks down the different Air Raid passing concepts and explains the evolution of the Air Raid from Hal Mumme at UK to Mike Leach at TTU to Holgerson at WVU: http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-air-raid-offense-history-evolution-weirdness-from-mumme-to-leach-to-franklin-to-holgorsen-and-beyond#sthash.4l7nsXLB.dpbs

     

    Also here's a good video that SBNation.com's Brett Kollmann put out last month:

     

     

    2. Just because the recruiting sites list a QB as "Pro-Style" doesn't mean he isn't mobile enough to be involved in the QB run game. 

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  8. I had to LOL at this post from the tigerdroppings thread:

     

     

    https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=83350650&s=2&p=83340503#83350650

    But Tom Herman is locked into Tim Beck's offense that they rename every year, but still appears to be the 2-decade old Read/option with Pro/Spread elements. Texas does indeed have tons of talent, but I'll be very surprised if the Herman/Beck offense can keep up in scoring with LSU's Spread/RPO. 

    Texas has enough talent to win 9 or 10 again in the Big-12 (including non-conference), but will be out-schemed by LSU in September, IMO. 

    And, "Lotsa luck" to to Herman's O against LSU's loaded defense.

     

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  9. On 4/9/2019 at 4:51 AM, LTtxfan said:

    Harbaugh finally gonna try a 21st century offense...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26452271/inside-jim-harbaugh-bold-move-transform-michigan-offense 

    Inside Jim Harbaugh's bold move to transform Michigan's offense

    Apr 8, 2019

    Dan Murphy. ESPN Staff Writer

    Josh Gattis had one simple question in January when Jim Harbaugh called to see if he could talk him into coming to Michigan.

    The 35-year-old Alabama co-offensive coordinator/wide receiver coach was in a position to be picky. He was on the heels of helping the Crimson Tide reach new, explosive heights on offense in 2018, as quarterback Tua Tagovailoa finished second in the Heisman race, Jerry Jeudy won the Biletnikoff Award as the nation's top receiver and tight end Irv Smith Jr. turned into a potential first-round NFL draft pick.

    Nick Saban planned to promote him to associate offensive coordinator, letting him plan the offense but bringing in a more experienced coach to oversee the operation. Several other schools already had called to offer him coordinator positions with no strings attached. He was getting ready to pack his bags after one season in Tuscaloosa.

    Harbaugh took his first run at Gattis a few years earlier. At that point, he wanted the up-and-comer to coach the Wolverines' wide receivers and add perspective to a democratic offensive coaching room where all decisions ultimately ran through the head coach. That was the way Harbaugh had always operated through more than a decade as a head coach.

    Shea Patterson and Jim Harbaugh will be working with a new playbook this season. AP Photo/Paul Sancya

    So Gattis wanted to know, who would be calling the shots this time around?

    "You run your offense, all your stuff," Harbaugh told him. "We'll get you a contract today. I don't want to miss on another chance to hire you."

    This is new territory for Harbaugh, who had been reticent to even name an offensive coordinator in the past, let alone cede full control of the playbook. But four years into his tenure at his alma mater without a championship or even a win over rival Ohio State, Harbaugh was willing to try something new. He picked Gattis -- a first-time coordinator with no previous history with Harbaugh -- to steer Michigan's offense into a more modern look to keep pace with the top run of college football programs.

    They broke the ice with a two-week road trip through wintry Midwestern roads, attached at the hip as they worked on the finishing touches of their recruiting class. Gattis learned quickly that his new boss' hands-on personality extended beyond the football field. Harbaugh popped out of the car to pump gas. They battled over who would pay the bill for meals on a daily basis. He was the first head coach Gattis knew who asked to drive rather than keep busy with some other task on long, dull trips from one high school to another.

    But when Gattis asked if Harbaugh wanted to pass the time on some lengthy stretch of highway by diving into the details of his offensive plans, Harbaugh waved him off. The man, who in his first spring as Michigan's coach shimmied under a center's legs and looked skyward into maize-covered nether regions to make sure the snap was landing properly in his quarterback's hands, said he would wait and learn the new playbook along with everyone else in the program during spring practice.

    "At first it was like, 'OK, I'm about to change all this. We good here?'" Gattis said. "But he's never questioned it. He stressed to me that it's my terminology, my plays, my offense. After that, I didn't need to back to him and ask for approval. I haven't done that once. I think he's enjoying the offense."

    "I like that there is an attack feel that the defense has to be aware of. And then the tempo, that feels good, too. That feels like we're attacking."Jim Harbaugh

    Huddles are gone. Fullbacks and snot bubbles will fade from center stage. Gattis assures Michigan's traditionalists, though, that there will be no need to tilt their bedside photos of Bo face down to shield his eyes. The Wolverines' offense will be faster and replete with trendy run-pass option, but it will still set its roots in a power run game. Quarterback Shea Patterson will still tuck himself under center, flanked by at least a couple of tight ends when the team needs to pick up a couple of tough yards.

    Gattis calls his scheme "a mutt," an indistinguishable mix of styles that will fold in elements of what Harbaugh's past offenses have done best. Senior tight end Sean McKeon said the new playbook adds a modern touch and a needed fresh air to Michigan's playbook.

    "It's definitely different from the past few years," he said. "It's a lot different."

    Michigan's offense wasn't exactly inept before Gattis arrived. The Wolverines averaged 35.2 points in 2018. At its best, Harbaugh's offense found creative twists to make troops of tight ends and fullbacks feel fresh. But that ingenuity was absent during the past couple of seasons, and the teams the Wolverines are chasing were using more innovative approaches to average at least a touchdown more per game.

    The result was a group whose talented wide receivers and athletic quarterback Patterson seemed at times as if they were rattling the iron gates of an old pro-style offense. Former quarterback Wilton Speightsaid he got the same sensation before transferring to UCLA last year. Speight saw the creativity seep out of Michigan's offense after former assistant Jedd Fisch left in 2016 (the team's production slipped from 40 points per game to 25.2 amid some injury issues the following year) and says the group seemed rejuvenated when he returned to campus for a visit this spring.

    "I know [Patterson], and I'm sure Michigan Nation, are very excited for the handcuffs to come off," Speight said. "I remember that same type of scenario. Once Jedd left, it was like, 'God, I feel like I can do a little bit more here.'"

    Gattis said he arrived to a group of players eager to do more. By the time he and Harbaugh returned from their recruiting road trip, most of Michigan's players had devoured all of Alabama's game film from the previous season.

    The Crimson Tide's 2018 offense is the closest representation of what Michigan will attempt to do with the ball this fall, Gattis says. He helped stitch together a plan last season that incorporated what he learned from Joe Moorhead's explosive offense featuring Saquon Barkley and Trace McSorley at Penn State with the downhill stop-us-if-you-can mentality that comes naturally for Alabama's bevy of five-star athletes.

    "I like that there is an attack feel that the defense has to be aware of," Harbaugh said after getting a brief introduction this spring. "And then the tempo, that feels good, too. That feels like we're attacking."

    Michigan's players liked the options for opportunities they saw on film. Gattis helped devise offenses early in his career that found creative ways to get the ball into the hands of a dominant playmaker. In his one season at Western Michigan, Gattis helped receiver Jordan White haul in 140 catches in 13 games. At Vanderbilt, it was Jordan Matthews averaging more than 100 catches per season with Gattis as his position coach.

    With more playmakers at this disposal at new stops, Gattis helped to find ways to keep everyone involved. Last season, all five of Alabama's wide receivers who played regularly finished with at least 40 catches. Three different running backs had at least 100 carries. He sees the same type of possibilities for Michigan's mix of big receivers, tight ends and running backs when they all return to full health.

    Injuries to key players such as receivers Donovan Peoples-Jones and Nico Collins have slowed some of that process this spring and will leave the Wolverines looking a little bit bland during their spring game Saturday at the Big House. Gattis says fans will nonetheless get a taste of some of the changes in store for 2019. He said he might even send out a pair of fullbacks and a pair of tight ends before shifting into the spread on the team's first play just to let the world know things are changing.

    That's a message received and accepted -- welcomed even -- by Harbaugh months ago. When snowy weather hit on their road trip back in January, Harbaugh insisted that he should be the one behind the wheel. Gattis said he has no fear that his boss will be looking to wrestle control back from when stormy patches inevitably arise on offense in the coming season.

    "No chance," he says. This isn't just a different driver for the Wolverines in 2019. Gattis is building a new car.

    When Michigan hired Harbaugh, my opinion was that tOSU was still going to dominate Michigan just off the strength that Michigan would be running Harbaugh's pro-style offense, while tOSU is running a modern spread offense. And that's exactly how it played out. I can't believe it's taken 4+ years & after Urban Meyer leaves tOSU for Harbaugh to finally start go in this direction.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

    That spring game was not good. 

    Everything looked flat and discombobulated. To be fair, it probably had something to do with Tom Herman not calling the plays. I wish I was joking. 

    Ingram barely played, but Whittington looked legit. Casey Thompson had moments but needs to work on his accuracy. His legs will do wonders though. 

    Wiley has the prototype size, but looked like shit, blocking and catching. Leiteo was 3rd string so he must suck. 

    Epps starting playing better in the 2nd half. He’s going to be a load for smaller DBs. 

    DL looked better, especially the DEs. Overall, Graham, Koburn, Wilson, Ossai, all looked very good. DBs were great. 

     

    Sigh....Can Herman just give in & sigh Major Applewhite as OC already. At least Major has shown he's a competent playcaller under Herman at UH and without Herman at UT back in 2013. Beck hasn't even shown he's competent playcaller under Herman at UT.

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