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  1. 39 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    Yeah, i don't even think B1G money is enough.   Florida will make about $450m more than FSU over 13 years.   FSU is looking at $470m in a GoR PLUS $120m buyout.  There just isn't a number big enough to make it make sense until 2036.

    When you sum the differences over a period of time the difference in money between these schools is incredible. 

    BTW, one of the reasons I'm on this board is because of intelligent, enlightening posts that you (and some others) post here.

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  2. 31 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    But if I'm SDSU and SMU I'd be warry of joining a sinking ship

    Yeah, but it's still better than their current situation. They are better off with Oregon State, WSU, and whoever else doesn't get picked up (and maybe inviting a few more MWC teams to fill in the gaps).

    Can you imagine Stanford and Cal with Boise State and Fresno State in the same conference? hahahaha. That's an Island of Misfit Toys...

  3. 26 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

    I'm not sure if extra money will really do much to elevate the BYU football program. Their recruiting advantages and disadvantages mostly revolve around the Mormon church and will continue to do so. UCF seems like the program that could really elevate itself with more revenue. 

    It certainly won't hurt, but you make a fair point. What may end up having the most positive impact is that we are now in a power conference with better access to the playoff (theoretically) and the 4 and 5 star Mormon/LDS recruits that would often pick P5 schools will be more willing to go to BYU. 

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  4. 31 minutes ago, Trojan Man said:

    Given a choice between Big 12 and Pac 12 I think Cincinnati, Houston and UCF would all choose the Big 12 over the Pac 12.  BYU is the only wild card but I'm inclined to say they still go Big 12 after all the times the Pac 12 told them to fuck off in the past, plus it wouldn't surprise me if Pac 12 schools chose to die on the "no religious schools" hill.

    We have more alumni and fans in the P12 footprint, but I agree with you: I think we still go Big 12 given a choice. Most fans I know and follow prefer the Big 12 option.

  5. 1 hour ago, Gaffords said:

    It's not the carrying that gets old, it's when you are already doing 80 percent of the work, while 2/3 of the others there to work are chilling under a tree and haven't moved all day and time is running out to have the job done before it starts cutting into your money because they are fine making enough to keep the lights on and the old lady happy. It's more than they've ever made before, while you are busting your ass because the roof is starting to leak, and the car is on it's last legs...

    When you feel the burden, is when you've hurt your knee and can't get the work done, and that still doesn't light a fire under the others asses. Because there's still guaranteed money coming in for a few more years and Iowa St will be back on it's feet before then...  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is your burdened, broken-down example supposed to represent UT? I had no idea it's been so hard for you. My deepest sympathies.  

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  6. 1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    I really don't think you see a team dominate the top the way OU has the last decade or dominate the basement the way KU has for the same window.

    The situation where you have Texas with a massive fanbase full of extremely wealthy BMDs, and high level historical success, or OU with an 80 year history of being great is gone.  The resources are pretty similar from school to school.  The ones where the admins and fans don't really invest in football could fall off, but they're also the ones with the most external advantages.

    What will be interesting to me is how this massive increase of money for BYU -- compared to what we used to get -- impacts things. (Could say the same for the other newcomers.) I feel like we have been punching above our financial weight for some time and now I wonder what level of impact this huge financial bump will have on our performance and how long it will take for that impact to show up? I expect us to take our lumps initially in the B12, but hoping we level up and more than carry our weight in the conference. 

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  7. 25 minutes ago, Trojan Man said:

    If they go for ESPN they are getting exposure for their best games/brands but they'll still end up with a lot of games banished to ESPN+ and the 10:30 PM ET drunks and gamblers audience, ...

    Haha I might steal that line

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  8. 9 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

    the vote was close enough to speculate about first presidency payouts to 9 key voters that swung the polls

    why would the church corporation need to stoop to such lows?

    in order to be ordained (pun intended) champion with both the writers and coaches, you had to win all your games, which you did, while also overcoming the following:

    - you beat 1 ranked team, preseason #3 pitt

    - after you opened at pitt, winning 20-14, pitt lost their first 4 and started 1-7-1 before finishing 3-7-1

    - the next week, in the same stadium, 0u destroyed pitt, 42-10

    - you beat pitt by 6; 0u beat pitt by 32 - this is important - we'll come back to 0u later

    - no one in your conference finished with fewer than 4 losses - there's all kinds of comedy gold in your conference foes' out-of-conference results, but let's keep moving

    - you remain the only team in history to 'win' a title and play your last game that season in december

    - in that last game, you defeated 6-5 unranked michigan, the worst record ever held by a team that lost to the 'national champion' in the 'national champion's' last game that year

    - 7 teams declined Holiday Bowl invitations to play you

    - 1 of those teams was 0u

    - many thought 1-loss oregon should have been crowned; the 10-1 ducks beat 9-1-1 0u by 2 scores, 28-17

    - does the transitive property matter?  barry switzer's shit-eating-grin during the 2008 bcs selection show answers your question

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    aggy would gladly put that title on the wall at pyle.   so there you have it.

    you've bested aggy.

    abracadabra.

    It's real and it's spectacular.

    btw, First Presidency payouts? hahahaha so dumb

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  9. 30 minutes ago, DCLonghorn said:

    I will miss the Big 12. I will miss the Big 8 teams. BYU will be the team to beat in the Big 12. Thanks to all those non-Longhorns who have been in this chat for YEARS and taken illogical Longhorn hubris and assholery.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Texas Wahoo said:

    The AAU may not include any religious institutions, although that is probably because those universities do not tend to be top research universities.  However, the AAU includes a ton of private universities.

    BYU does some research, but it considers itself more a teaching university than a research university. It focuses more on undergrad, although it does have several top 30 grad programs (law, MBA, MAcc, ...), and it does not offer a lot of PhD programs (~30). If you look at average grades / scores for incoming freshman they are 3.9+ and around a 30 ACT. I'd say that's respectable. 

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  11. 1 hour ago, 'stache said:

    I can see a future where Stanford and Cal join the WCC for olympic sports and the Ivy League for football despite the travel. I'm sure the extra cost is worth it to them to continue basking in the smell of their own academic farts. CU, UU, AU, and ASU join the XII, and UO and UW eventually do to having no other viable options, with us all understanding they'll continue begging the BIG for an invite. I'd love to have ORST and WSU, but I assume the financial numbers would not work out, if only we knew this would be a possibilty before adding the AAC and Mormon mid-majors.

    We have a bigger stadium than you and have won a natty in our lifetimes 

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  12. 1 hour ago, UTEX_ME said:

     

    Plenty more that could potentially take over now that OU/Texas and Bedlam are gone from the conference:

    Kansas / KSU - Sunflower Showdown

    OSU/Tech - who stole who's sign / both have horse riders after TDs

    Tech/WVU - John Denver Bowl

    Hell you could have a BYU / TCU / Baylor Holy Grail Cup. 

     

    The Baylor matchup is already looking like a budding rivalry as we've played each other the last couple of seasons and we both won one and there is the religious / holy war aspect. With TCU we have history / beef with those guys from the MWC days. Looking forward to it.

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