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  1. 1 hour ago, Fud said:

    We were recruiting him at corner, but I'd guess that the staff saw him as a nickel long term. He's going to get pretty big, imo

    I figured his quick commitment to aggy had to do with us pushing him at S, but I guess not. Don't want be accused of shitting on his talent, but I am fine with the miss if he is dead set on being a CB (committing to aggy also doesn't say too much about him on the mental eval part either).

  2. 16 minutes ago, Fud said:

    We were recruiting him as a corner 

    Thanks. I thought it was perhaps something more like Mach is suggesting, where because the services list him as a CB they think everyone is recruiting him as such, but our pitch was at S. If we are really looking at him as a CB, I am not going to sweat us missing on him. 

  3. 25 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

    In our initial years together, I often suggested to my wife that bringing another woman into the relationship would preserve her body, keep her rested, able to focus on our kids, etc. Selfishly, she never would listen to reason. Now, after more than a quarter of a century together, she's starting to get worn down. I'm a regular Nostradamus.

    Kinda what candi told jimbo but in reverse :)

    No, I think Candi just realized Jimbo was a small dick, asshole and decided to live high off his money and get real men on the side. She was a little too obvious and Jimbo was forced to pull the plug and move to College Station.

  4. 42 minutes ago, Fud said:

    He's a massive Shepherd, Coker, George, etc type of body, but is actually pretty fluid and athletic, he's just a mess technically and probably needs quite a big of weight room work 

    Think of him as being a long-term raw high ceiling take in the 2018 class, who you wouldn't have expected much from until at least year three (2020) but more likely years four and five (2021 and 2020)

    Shackleford leaves after 2019, and Okafor, Imade, Cosmi, and Kerstetter all likely leave after 2020 (there's a slight chance that Kerstetter is here in 2021 if he redshirts in one of the next two years, and Cosmi if he stays for his fifth year, but both seem unlikely), so for 2021 you're most likely looking at the 2018 class (Jones, Angilau, Moore, Ghirmai) and the 2019 class (T Johnson, Shepherd, Hookfin) as your primary two-deep, with maybe some of the 2020 kids pushing (likely either Parr or Majors at center, and Lindberg somewhere)

    From the lens that he'll give cover in 2021 after a bunch of guys leave, I think this take makes some sense as long as there's room on the roster, and there is 

    I agree that he fills the roster gap that our small 2017 and 2019 classes have left. It is also insurance should one or more of the 2018 or 2019 classes prove to be misses and leave the program. That said, I probably would have been fine with not taking him as we could continue to pull in already developed GTs to cover holes in the next couple of seasons, if needed. 

  5. 3 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

    Jesus guys do I have to list all the RBs that aren't first rounders to prove to you that the NFL trend is very few RBs are going in the first round.

    Do you really think our coaching staff is telling these guys that they aren't going in the first round?!? Few players at all go in the first round, but so long as there are RBs going early, you can be damn sure our staff isn't selling them on being a late rounder or a UDFA.

  6. 1 minute ago, ButtFumble said:

     

    you do not lose games for the media partners with more OOC games that is not how it works

    as long as everyone in the conference signs home and home games (in other words no one plays a buy in game or a one and done for cash) the media partners get the same content

    if Texas and Kansas play conference games two years in a row that is 2 games over two years for the media partners (one game each year)

    if Texas plays an OOC home game in 2020 and Kansas plays an OOC away game in 2020 that is one game for the media partners (the Texas home game).....in 2021 Texas plays an OOC away game and Kansas plays an OOC home game......that Kansas OOC home game is still one game for the media partners for a total of two games over two years (one game each year)

    so unless Kansas or Baylor decided to take cash to go play Alabama or Florida with no return game the media partners are just fine on the number of games

    if Kansas decided to buy in a shitty OOC game each year then the media partners get a net benefit of one additional game

    next comes the argument that "well Kansas will play really shitty teams".....yes and hopefully they will win both of them.....and from the stand point of the media partners once Kansas plays Big 12 conference games later in the season what is worth more......Kansas with a 3-2 or a 4-1 record against shitty OOC games playing Texas Tech that is 3-2 or 4-1 against shitty OOC games or Kansas that is 1-2 against Texas Tech that is 2-1 against shitty OOC games 

    then there is the argument that "the Big 12 is just in too small of a geographic area" and "needs a bigger foot print"....well you know how you expand your geographic area and your footprint and your number of interested viewers (without adding G5 shit)

    well it is pretty simple you play fewer games against the same teams all in the same small geographic area and instead you play teams from other areas in the OOC then you get fans of those teams AND casual fans of that conference and that area watching your games instead of a Big 12 errwon play errbodie circle jerk that no oen gives a fuck about especially fans in the Big 12 at schools like Texas and OU

    Texas Tech Vs Memphis......Baylor Vs USF......those games get the dicks of the AAC fans hard especially because those pole smokers think they belong in the Big 12 so fans of that entire conference group tune in and beat their puds for their conference mate to possibly beat a Big 12 team and prove they belong in the Big 12

    Texas Tech Vs Baylor does not draw those fans period

    and again of Texas Tech and Baylor can win a higher % of OOC games over .500 as their overall record improves they games they play in the Big 12 mean more even to causal fans because Baylor that is 7-5 Vs OkState that is 7-2 gets more national viewers than Baylor that is 5-5 and OkState that is 6-2

    you get more teams in Bowl games, you recruit better for your shittier teams based on that, you have teams ranked higher to start the next year and it builds on itself

    Conference games are just worth more. Go read the old realignment thread on the Shag. ESPN isn't paying a premium for some unknown commodity. OOC game contracts can be broken so there is less value in them. (A conference-level scheduling arrangement would add value because the games would be guaranteed and the pool of opponents would be established.) It is what it is, so until the conference moves to 8 games and makes more money relative to its current position among the other leagues, you are just spilling bits on the internet.

  7. 5 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

    NSIAP

    If nothing will do except expanding XII and going to N/S divisions with real CCG, why not BYU and AFA? Good academics, wide-spread fans... what don't you like about them? Other than the Ghost of Taysom?

    We have already been through this exercise. More money will do over expansion, so it's a moot point. (Though I believe AFA has already said they have no interest in being in a P5 conference.) Until there are 2 teams that pay for themselves across the board on the media side, the Big 12 is unlikely to expand.

  8. OU will make whatever claims fit the moment if they decide to leave. Everyone who left the Big 12 used the LHN as a rearguard excuse, even though its existence post-dated everyone's decision to leave. The majority of college football fans (and the media) believe that lie. You think anyone is going to give OU's excuses a thorough going over after they have already decided to leave?

    We all know the ultimate reason will be the same as it was when the other teams left, money and exposure. OU will make more money in the Big 10 or SEC and will get their share of a conference network. The Big 12 can do nothing to overcome either.  If OU stays, it will likely be because of their dominant competitive position in the Big 12 or because of politics over leaving OSU in the cold. I guess there is still the slight possibility that a conference network or a media deal, like the ideas noted above with the Pac, which could sweeten the pot enough to keep them in the fold. Unfortunately, I still lean towards them wanting to leave.

    8 conference games are worth less than 9. It is just a fact. Unless that 9th game is replaced with a set of guaranteed winners, those OOC games aren't worth as much. I imagine the powerbrokers at OU don't give a damn about SOS and how the rest of the conference gets an almost assured loss against OU because of the round robin. OU would love to have only 8 conference games so they can add a better home game every other year, but they lose more money on the TV contract by losing the guaranteed conference games. If 8 games were a realistic option it would have already happened, just like expansion would have already happened if it were financially realistic. The conference loses money either way and therefore no one in the Big 12 is interested in change.

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  9. 11 minutes ago, HighlandMidge said:

    Except BYU would bring more money to the table then most of the members already in the Big 12.  

    Utah brings nothing, to very little to the table.  

    I think we see the agenda here, no? How many account names have you burned here?

    BYU just isn't a good enough product to move the needle, especially when they really have to bring in enough value to cover for a second, even weaker product. 

    1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

    The Big 12 was brilliant for not expanding. I think the intelligence of expanding for the sake of expanding is playing out over in the PAC 12.

    Agreed. Unfortunately, I just think OU is lining things up to leave. Pushing the latest, failed expansion process was just another way for them to add an excuse on their reasons for leaving. If we add, then OU knows the new TV contracts would suck and that no one would have any interest in a Big 12 network just because we added some weak pretenders. If we didn't add, then they can claim the rest of the conference is against them or that they want to get away from the round-robin/CCG set up, which the Big 12 can't do away with unless they sacrifice the quality of play or the value of their media deal.

  10. 51 minutes ago, Machinator said:

    IT

    THE GREEN TWINS

    Getting into Allen High School has been a task Tom Herman continues to instill in his staff. It's littered with D1 prospects every cycle and 2021 is no different. 

    So Texas offered Blaine and Bryson Green this month, identical twin wideouts from the DFW super power. When I say identical, it's tough to tell them apart. Both looked great last Sunday in Arlington for the Under Armour camp. We caught up with one...Blaine.

    I think we have just found out Katfid's day job!

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    12 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

    Of course they are going to vote with Ohio State or Bama, they will be their bitch. Anyway yes I am going to produce evidence to support or deny a hypothetical dream conference involving an issue that is not defined. What a dishonest way to win your argument.

    TCU was already in the conference before the Louisville business. OU voted with the unanimous majority to not expand last time.

    And a 16 team super conference will be equally as stable as the Big 12 because the Big 12 is going to be very stable in the future. And we won't be in some garbage conference where you play your conference mates once every 20 years. 

    I am not defending OU here. I am saying their casus belli has been well-tread in public already. Unless their new leadership has done a flip-flop, OU has been the most vocal in finding issues with the Big 12 since the last teams left and they are the last team to publicly try to leave the conference. I don't give a damn about guessing whether or not OU is going to fail if and when they move. I'll save that for when it happens, but I am sure OU has looked at the evidence themselves and will factor that in when it comes decision time. I am merely saying OU's reasons for moving are already out there for public consumption and the Big 12 has little in their arsenal to fix those issues.

    Control and power within a conference are likely somewhat overrated, unless you are in a dire position. OU has leverage in the Big 12 but only because the conference dies without them. The problem is that the Big 12 has very little to give to fix that. (UT could drop the LHN or try to get it turned in to a Big 12 network, but the Big 12 has no control over that and even Texas has to get ESPN on board.) Also, just because they publicly say a vote was unanimous doesn't mean that any school necessarily wanted to vote that way. I think OU would have been happy to expand now and then use the subsequent weak media deal as another reason to leave. 

  12. 3 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    How is OU going to get more exposure?  They're inescapable in football season.

    They want a national presence for their T3 content. They have other programs than football and they are stuck on a regional network while the Big 10, SEC, and soon the ACC are getting their programs a national audience.

  13. 2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

    That makes no sense at all. First of all it was about OU's power not who they have more in common with. Secondly they have nothing in common with the Big 8 schools? WTF?

    Yeah OU is a dominant power in the Big 12. In one of those other super conferences they would a second tier player. But that point weakens your case so let's obfuscate by introducing some weird concept like how much in common they have with Kentucky and Minnesota.

    You make it sound like these conferences are engaged in constant internal warfare! There is very little that goes on that requires power plays of any sort. Unless you have evidence otherwise. OU is going to vote with Bama or Ohio State with common cause on most issues.

    OU and UT have power in the Big 12, but it isn't absolute. UT lost their bid to build a conference network. OU has pushed expansion and been shot down every time. OU wanted Louisville and got stuck with TCU instead. A 16-team super conference is likely going to be much, much more stable than the Big 12.

  14. 2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    Aggy recruits well.  What's that gotten them?

    No more than what they got when they were in the Big 12. Ultimately, they get more money to be mediocre in the SEC.

    OU will look at it as a chance to keep winning while getting more money and exposure. I am sure they see they don't have anything in common with aggy. Nebraska might be the better test case, but Nebraska's downfall preceded their move to the Big 10 and was predicated on changes that actually had little to do with the Big 12 or Big 10.

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  15. 1 minute ago, cochamps said:

    Talking about control, not recruiting

    And as far as control goes, I would say OU has way more in common with the leaders of either the Big 10 or SEC than with the teams in the Big 12. Outside of Michigan, which is the only school who takes the football/academics divide more seriously than we do, the power schools are more about greasing the wheels of success for themselves than academics or real conference equity. 

  16. 4 minutes ago, Barry_McCokiner said:

    Nah.  They're right next to Dallas.  They'll always recruit well, especially in the SEC

    Yep, and if the Big 12 is killed off, they have even less competition for recruits. Sure Texas and aggy are always going to be there as local options for the handful of truly elite guys, but it makes getting your pick from the Top 50 in Texas all the easier with no other P5 programs in the vicinity.

    17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    OU and UT aren't going to get better playoff access or control of league affairs by joining someone else's conference. 

    The question for OU is would you rather be the current OU program or the current Nebraska or Aggy program.  Because if they join the Big 10 or SEC, that's what's coming.

    If the Big 12 dies, then the playoffs start by winning your division. Do you think OU is scared of the shitty Big 10 West? The SEC West would likely see Bama move east with Auburn. Do you think OU is afraid to compete in a division with aggy, LSU, Missouri, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, and either us or Okla State?

  17. I think the problem moving ahead is that OU has perhaps the most power, because they are willing (and perhaps eager) to move and they likely have takers. Adding BYU and Boise aren't going to keep OU happy. Adding those teams will mean less money and no one in the conference seems interested in losing money. It is an exercise we have already gone through. Those adds also won't get OU's T3 content a national audience, which is something they greatly desire. While I think OU would love to get down to 8 games, the decline in money makes the Big 12 less competitive than their other options.

    OU can pull up stakes and go to the SEC or Big 10 and get everything they can't get from the Big 12 (especially if we move with them). I think OU to the Pac has finally died with the Pac's bad media moves. To make it viable would require a whole lot of breaking and rebuilding that just doesn't seem likely. The Big 12 sell to OU might be improved though with a Pac media relationship of a one-game-per-team deal. It would give them some permanent presence in one of their prime recruiting territories and it makes the TV deal more valuable with guaranteed match ups.

    If the T1/2 deal is still competitive and OU needs an unwilling UT to move with them (like when they tried to make a unilateral move out west last time) or they can't leverage OSU into a move with them, that may be enough to hold the current Big 12 together. If it could include a T3 network with national reach, that could seal the deal, but it is unlikely. I think either the Big 10 or SEC takes the risk of offering a solo spot to OU, thereby effectively killing the Big 12. The question then becomes do we move immediately or do we stay in a lame-duck Big 12 to see out the end of the LHN contract and then pick our spot.

  18. 1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

    Objectively? Sure; well at least as objective as the composite rankings are to begin with. Classes are remarkably similar actually. Looks like on a national level the ceiling was bit higher and the floor was a bit lower.  This of course ignores mental evaluations and potential nonqualifiers etc.  The idea that Aggy is purposefully slower to recruit this year is aggy rationalization to a crappy start.  Will actually be interesting to see how this changes throughout the year and if I get bored I will go back and look at 2018 as well.

    2019 TX recruits

    17 in the top 100, 8 from 100-200, and 12 from 200-300. Total of 37 TX players in top 300.

    Total Average .9451
    top 100 avg .9739
    100-200 avg .9392
    200-300 avg .9083

    2020 TX recruits

    15 in the top 100, 10 from 100-200, and 12 from 200-300. Total of 37 TX players in top 300.

    Total Average .9426
    top 100 avg .9715
    100-200 avg .9370
    200-300 avg .9110

    I would be curious what the numbers would look like over a 5 year period. I was under the impression that the ranking sites have a quota system, where states like Texas, Florida, and Cali will have between, say, 35-40 recruits in a Top 300 (or 30-35 in a Top 247). Basically, you want to cover all your major fan bases and keep them happy, so the numbers of elite ranked players is fairly stable in the big college football states.

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