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  1. 6 hours ago, Newy25 said:


    Blaming the 3rd and 5 crosser miss on Wingo and not Arch is quite the take. A really, really bad take. In your attempt to gloss over a terrible QB  performance you actually try to pin the blame on a side armed, 2 yards behind the receiver pass on Wingo somehow. Bravo sir for a 10/10 fan delusion post. 

    It hit his hand.  And he jumped.  Both feet left the ground.  Why?  It touches his hand a foot off his back shoulder.  He never stops.  I’m not sure he slows.  Then leaves his feet.  You can take a screenshot with the ball out of the hand with the ball out in front of Wingo.  It’s like he saw it late or was trying to keep his stride for the big play rather than just catch it.  But sure, go with your initial impression and dead set on any alternative theory.

     

    Ah the arrogance of the white man.

     

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  2. I’ve watched it again.  Lots of fan dramatics.  Arch wasn’t near as bad as made out to be.

    Let’s start with the last drive pass to Wingo.  Complete misjudge of the ball.  He had time to react, maybe even stop, yet he keeps running.  The throw to Endries before was garbage.  Then you have the Baker whiff on the last play.

    The drive that ended on the Livingstone throw.  From the opposite hash on 4th and 3.  Assinine play call.  The in breaking route was probably the best choice, but that’s a rather long throw for 3 yards too. On the 3rd and 3 to Wingo.  Not a good throw, but there’s some rationale behind it.  We motion Wisner out.  The LBers stay put.  I’m guessing Sark anticipated movement.  So Arch passed on Wingo in the first window due to the LBer then there was some pressure and that along with the angle he throws it sidearm.  As for coaching, 3rd and 3, why not Baxter?  Why not run?

    On the half yard line.  We have the advantage over the LG.  Does Arch have the authority to change the play?

    Some of Arch’s crappy passes didn’t kill drives.  The first play of game.  Drive ends with a 4th down run.  The Moore catch behind the LOS.  We converted that for a first.

    The run game was decent but provided minimal threat to OSU to force them out of coverage.  OSU didn’t seem to be conceding the downfield passing game.  Our approach wasn’t good to offset.  And they are a good pass D as well.  I can’t imagine we will face many that can replicate it.  There were some open guys, but there were a ton of covered guys and guessing some that appeared open but really weren’t.

    This game really shouldn’t change the season long expectations.  There are positives offensively.  The defense met expectations, at least.

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  3. 28 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    Ohio state returned 3 of their 5 starters on the OL from a national championship team and their 2nd teamers, 2 returning starters at WR (both 1st round picks), and a QB that was in Day’s system for an entire year.  Day has been there 8 years now.   They put up 200 yards and 14 points at home.  
     

    Sark has demonstrated anything but piss poor coaching.  Dude was 8 yards and 5 yards away from playing for the national championship and has put more players on the NFL draft the last two years than any other coach.  Dude lost by 1 score to the defending national champs and top 5 team on the road.

     

    Criticize his in game decisions but fuck off with some of your comments.  I’m pissed about this loss too but don’t be a dumbass.  This is a damn talented team, with an elite defense, that is going to win a lot of games.  The guy responsible for it is Sark.  

     

    I fully expect this team to make a run at it all.  He has as good a screen game as I’ve ever seen.  Often when we struggle he goes away from it or rather stays away from it. It’s not the reason but that is an effective way to get some rhythm.

    You can get all twisted but I’m not speculating on an install is not fully functional.  That’s your speculation.  I’m saying that’s not the reason and provided you some rationale for that.
     

    I don’t expect perfection from a QB.  Quite the opposite.  I expect a handful of poor or mediocre games a season.  The play caller should as well and have contingencies for when those hit.  Things prepared to shift that momentum.

    Yes, he’s been at forefront of building this out.  He’s also at the forefront of the offense, and it’s trailed the defense, which was again the case today.  It is the players that execute, but it’s the coaches that often swing the ease of execution one way or the other.  To get over that hump, our chances improve if we shift that ease of execution.

    I’d wager today and the way it turned out that it’s better for us in the end.

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  4. 9 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    Yes ofcourse.  Arch had at least 4-5 easy throws on drag routes and out routes I saw him throw into the dirt, throw behind the WR, or rocket it to the WR making it uncatchable.  Not sure what you want sark to do if he can’t make an easy throw.  It was clear he was rattled.  
     

    As to your turnover comment… that turnover led to 7 points for tOSU.  I actually would have much preferred us to be conservative, punt it, and pin them back.  In a game like this, the margin for error is very low.  Neither QB was going to light it up.  Every game preview talked about how elite these defenses are and how green the QBs are and the tough situation it would be to face these defenses in their 1st real starts.  So I disagree turnovers aren’t always the issue…. It was huge issue this game.

     

    I do agree that he should have called more designed runs to get Arch in the flow of the game to start.  When he started doing that, Arch was clearly more comfortable and the offense was able to move the ball much better.  Sark said as much in his post game press conference.  

    They went 68 yards.  If we punt into the end zone, they may well go a whole 12 yards more.  It didn’t set them up in scoring position.  And we ultimately lost because we didn’t score enough.

    I am not debating he had some crappy throws.  But go back and watch that Jeremiah Smith 16 yard gain.  His longest of the day.  That’s the shit I’m talking about.  Not a WR running away from you because if that’s supposed to be at 10 yards and somebody’s is running 7, it screws with the QB.  That is less of an issue with a stationary target.  There’s absolutely several instances with Wingo in which it feels a little off.

    It also stands to reason that if he’s cautious with Arch running, then he is cautious in the pass game because he’s playing in fear.

  5. 17 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    I won’t argue with that.  I wish we saw more  misdirection.  This offense was very different from the last two years.  Much more vanilla.  My assumption is that the OL or QB or just entire offense just isn’t there yet to handle some of the stuff he wants to do.  Maybe we’ll see more of it as they have more time to install, teach, correct. 

    Moore, Wisner, Baxter, Arch, Campbell, Hutson, Neto, Goosby have all been here 3 or 4 years.  Sark has been here 5 years now.  There’s no excuse to not be running whatever you want to be doing.  You aren’t even getting more than 3 years out of the best of the best anyway.

    And if people think that this offense is completely different than last year or that the second unit ran something different than the first unit, that’s asinine or piss poor coaching.

    And you can absolutely coach the play making out of guys. Based on the A&M, Kentucky, UGA x 2, OSU x 2, it is a reasonable question.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    Ah yes, because we can come out and gun it when our QB was throwing passes in the dirt to start the game and the entire 1st half.  Yeah, that’s what you do when your QB is struggling.  You just gun it!  Wave a want and gun it!  Fuck running the ball to calm him down.  Who would do that.  Good thing the coach that beat us today gunned it with his first year QB to the tune of 120 yards passing.  This fucking board is worse than Texags.  

    I’m assuming you’ve watched football.  I’m assuming you’ve seen some no huddle to change game flow.
     

    He knows the defense is showing up.  The biggest risk to the defense is an offense that doesn’t produce.  Turnovers themselves aren’t always the issue.

    There are things a coach can do to get you in the flow of the game.  Arch had all of 5 incompletions at the half.  5.  That is not many.  There are easy QB throws.  I’m talking those in which there’s not much thinking.  We ran two screens.  They both worked.  The second may have been latter half of the 4th quarter.  It even took awhile to get Arch involved in the run game and apparently there was some reference to the fact that he gets more into the game after that.  As a sonofabitch that played the fucking position at some level, I get that.

     

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  7. 2 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    The poster I was referencing was complaining that we didn’t call a rpo or play action or misdirection on that play.  My point was that the opposing coach didn’t either and just ran the ball up the middle 7 straight times…. Most of them for 1-2 yards.  But yes, I agree with you that I would have called a run play with Baxter instead of the sneak.  But considering the push their DTs got on that play, not sure that would have resulted in a TD either.   Their DL made the plays when it mattered.  

    I understand that, but OSU guys submarined the Oline due to our predictability.  Hill whiffed on his tackle.  Defensively, we failed to execute.  Offensively that play was dead in the water.  This notion that you’ll beat strong defenses in situations when they have numbers is a weakness of Sarks.  Teams don’t really do it to us so why should we expect it either.  Some play action, getting on the edge could introduce some hesitation.

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  8. 3 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    No you keep bitching about the play calls.  The coach that beat us called the same plays.  So stop your bitching.  We lost dude.  It sucks.  But you’d be bitching whether we threw it, ran it, punted it, or kicked it.  These big games come down to 1 or 2 plays.  We didn’t make them today.  But the complete overreaction considering we played the #2 team on the road in our season opener is exhausting.   Nick Saban isn’t walking through that door to coach us…. And don’t forget that motherfucker lost at home to the coach you keep bitching about.  Go smoke a bowl and enjoy this season.  We’re going to win a lot of games and hopefully get a chance to play in the playoffs.  Perhaps you’ve forgotten the decade plus of ass beatings we received but I’m excited about this team.

    You realize that they had a deep handoff on 4th and goal.  We didn’t.  If we flip that, maybe we do win.
     

    I’m on board with winning it all, but Sark needs to be less of a dumbass.  Come out gunning and quit playing scared.

  9. 1 hour ago, mwaadeeb said:

    I was there watching them as much as I could. Wingo does not look like a polished or technical WR. He looks like a big fast guy who runs reverses and gets the ball in space but doesn't know what a WR should be doing. (I got the same vibes from him last year but assumed it was because he was freshman.) On the almost-pick that got reversed he loafed down the field totally alone and cut off his route way late, making Arch wait. 

    McJaggy and Moore looked like real receivers by comparison.

    This is legit question.  On the final 4th down, he and Endries almost ran into each other on the mesh.  The play before, yes, it was a poor throw, but there’s a reason to question.  Looked as though he left his feet, but it’s also a bit odd it ended up behind him.  Others questioned the throw on the 5.  Yep, poor throw but not a ton of sellout either.

    And think back to Golden missing in the Cotton Bowl.  No impact other than drawing PI.

  10. 44 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

    We weren't as good as Ohio State from a roster standpoint. Ohio State is the gold standard. They were literally better than us at every level except QB. Teams like them and Georgia have been collecting top level talent for years. It isn't really that hard. We lost to who we were supposed to lose to if you look at it realistically. In 2023 we had no pass rush and so we lost to the two teams where lacking those things was going to hurt you the most. Last year WE lost to the only two teams we played with elite pass rushes who could simultaneously shut down our run game. Everyone else had a flaw that got exposed except those two. You can have 85 NFL level NTs but that really isn't going to help you against Penix or Gabriel. Just the same if you look at the OSU game from last year we couldn't get to Howard at all. Same thing happened today. We have holes on this team that really hurt us against quality opponents. Those holes have shown up consistently and they really don't care about our draft count. 

    The differences in rosters were negligible.  Ohio State lost a couple last year.  They basically made 1/2 more plays than us in each of the two matchups.

  11. Just now, hookem48 said:

    Someone explain to me what Baker was doing on our last offensive play, how do you not see the guy blowing right by you when your not even looking the other way? Seriously what the fuck.

    You seem like the type that might not believe it if Baker was standing right in front of you and told you himself.

  12. 4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

    We had three skill position guys drafted. Our offense wasn't some juggernaut. Meanwhile look at the OSU offense. None of the top teams would trade their skill guys for ours. 

    You answered no questions.

     

    I am aware it’s no juggernaut.  The question is - should it be?

  13. 32 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

    Not sure you noticed but we Bond was missing most of the season. We basically had Golden and Tre Wisner. Some of you have to get past this ide we were loaded offensively. We were not. 

    I need you to do a little math for me.

    Just how many Texas teams have had a 1st round WR, a 5th round TE, a 5th round RB, a 1st round LT, a draftable RT and LG?  For Texas, yes, that is loaded.

    Bonus question. In the past two years, other than Livingston, who has scored TDs versus Ohio State?

     

    Go back and watch that Wingo throw on the OSU 7 or so.  All Wingo had to do was run 4 yards and post up.  That crosser inside the 10 isn’t the easiest.  I’m not saying he should miss it, but it’s damn more difficult than hitting it quick.  Trying to hit that window with a moving target in a condensed field does have some complexities.

  14. 2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

    Yes. I tried to point that out last year but we were too busy hating on Ewers to hear it. Other teams have high completion percentages because their receiver run out and sit down in empty zones creating stationary throws. Sark doesn't like stationary targets and thus lower completion percentages. He needs to draw up more stationary targets and help his qb out. It's not hard. 

    Obviously I remember.  And believe I agreed at the time. No one is on all the time so you need certain play calls to make life easy.  The screen game can be that to an extent, but we didn’t try it much today.

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  15. 2 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

    You're maximizing QE's bad and minimizing his good.  Yeah he had self sacks.  He also was elite at hitting the short/intermediate throw on target, which was a key missing element today.

    The data shows that he was not elite at the intermediate stuff.  He was excellent one season when he had the fastest combo of WRs ever that created significant separation.

    So we start from there.

    It’s likely we win with Ewers, but who here is comfortable saying we efficiently score inside the 10?  That’s part of the equation. It is not apparent that we missed wide open deep shots so that efficiency may come into play.

    There is the potential that opening game timing makes life more difficult too. A tad anyway.  The 3rd down miss to Wingo on the last drive.  Wingo needs to catch that.  There  may be an element to not throttling it down.  We’ve all heard it said the most improvement occurs between weeks 1 and 2.  Timing is likely part of that.  You also can take a cue from Joe Burrow who played this preseason in an attempt to start stronger.  Why do you think that is?

    I was curious last year and still am about what’s drilled into the QBs regarding being cautious as that can be turned into a negative.

  16. Sark needs to re-evaluate. @Thatguy had a legit point last year.  And that 16-yard Jeremiah Smith completion highlights it.  Yes, moving targets enable run after catch.  They also offer opportunities for quick decision, easier throws.  We need more post up options  in this offense.

    Sark did a poor job with his screen game.  There are options to take the thinking out of the QB.  When the offense struggles, there are options to get 5+ on 1st down that make the game easier.  Our drives in which we ran the reverse to Wingo and screen to Endries had success.  Surprise.

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  17. 53 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

    Texas site had Williams and Taaffe starting vs Michigan. Mukuba starting CSU and UTSA 

    By and large in 2023, outside of Bama, Williams was pretty heavily rotational which means he basically had to prepare as a starter.  He went down in the early second half of OU with 22 snaps.  He was probably working roughly half time there.  His reps have not been garbage time.

    The positive for he and Baxter is that they got the taste of it then were able to sit back and observe.  Potentially a little better insight than not getting the game time feel.

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  18. 17 minutes ago, AeroHorn said:

    Yeah, Michigan game is not a good comparison because they had no QB. Their starter was lost and the replacement was not much better, and by that time the game was over. It was like us with Card at Arkansas.

    Michigan is not a good comp, but that Arkansas game isn’t either.

     

    Michigans WRs are a 1 as group compared to a 10 for OSU.  You swap WRs and that’s bigger than swapping QBs.

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