Everything posted by ndawg
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Yub nub.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
They walked in to the biggest casino in Vegas with a brand new, completely undetectable strategy for counting cards and... deliberately decided to underperform the statistical odds that the polls gave them at just about every table.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Well you and I now agree on one thing. Let's hug, hell let's fuck you big ol contrarion. Trump made me willing to go battle with @slorch ... at least against Sean Hannity. These small little victories can add up
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Yep. It's important to read it, though, this is how deluded these people are.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Is this the thread to paste really outrageous Texags.com takes? Because if it is, this has got to be the most hilarious self own I've seen on the internet in some time. Outed himself as an incel
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
I'm pretty sure I'm hitting the refresh button on my browser faster than Georgia is counting votes.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Indeed. Without Trump to embolden their spirits, the Trumpists have only their fear left. The GOP can always control them by their fear. I just wish I could have told them, in the Trump/Pence years...
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
I also don't think McConnell offers him a way out of legal trouble, which I didn't foresee at the outset. The GOP did great in Congress even while Trump lost. This tells me that a lot of Republicans voted (R) down ballot but punched one in for Biden. There's more momentum for the GOP than Trump at the moment, so now's as good of a time as any to plot a future for the GOP that doesn't cowtow to Trump. The GOP has all the leverage they need over Trumpists at the moment. Because once they come to perceive the GOP as the only thing between them and everything they're scared of (AOC, socialism), they're going to keep voting for the GOP, even if their orange god is rotting in a prison cell.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
25,687
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Amazing that the Democrats managed to rig an election with a Republican president and Republican senate.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Two minute warning.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Ah, maybe so. I'm happy to be wrong here. This is what I've been looking at: https://apps.npr.org/elections20-interactive/#/senate
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Buttigieg offers an even better alternative. He's the nerd that can straight up beat a jock down by destroying his argument, then steal his sports car... and of course turn down his wife's offer 😉
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
I'm not naïve at all. I'm on the fucking ledge, dude. I'm saying that, barring a fairly unlikely comeback to get a 50/50 senate split, the only strategy the Democrats actually have right now involves getting actual legislation through the Senate. The only way to do that is to offer the Republicans things that they claim they want. No way the Republicans agree to work together with the Democrats on anything. Hence the ledge.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
If cooperation between the two parties doesn't happen, we're truly fucked. Climate change, COVID... if it's not clear by now that the status quo won't sustain itself, I don't know that there's any hope for this country. If the Dems were smart, they'd take a big Republican issue like repealing ACA, and offer to work with Republicans on an ACA revamp, agreeing beforehand that both parties could take credit for. Biden could even get Obama's blessing to call it a "repeal and replace" as an olive branch. Republicans would then be in a position to either publicly reject an offer to make good on their own platform, or they'd be forced to come back to the table and start actually hammering out policy again. A much easier win would be legislation that would require cigarette pack style warning labels on news entertainment like Maddow or Hannity: "this is news entertainment, and as such, the opinions presented are not subject to the same journalistic standards as our news broadcasting." Revoke WH access to Fox or MSNBC if they don't comply. I am a lefty idealist, but we need pragmatism to start happening yesterday. Conservatives used to be those pragmatists, but they're now idealists, too, and the two ideals have turned everything into a shitty zero sum game. If we can make more incremental legislation actually HAPPEN, we can get the government moving forward at a pace and direction that a MAJORITY is comfortable with. It's either that or we remain stalled out, and continue drifting into authoritarianism.
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Does the President materially affect you?
As a self-employed small business owner relying on ACA, I would probably have to go look for a full time job if the ACA gets repealed, especially if pre-existing conditions are fucked with. So, there is definitely a lot at stake here for me, materially speaking. I think a lot of self employed individuals are probably in this boat.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
No idea, but intuitively this seems like it'd be the question that would be most skewed by people who decided to vote on election day. Anecdotally, people who take COVID seriously in my life seemed to prioritize voting early. I know I did... I normally vote on election day but this year didn't want to wind up in a rona fest.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Au Pied de Cochon is one of my favorite restaurants in the world in Montreal.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Oh right, yeah, thanks. It all made sense when I remembered they see it through the lens of "GOP = good and not GOP = bad." The shitty thing about that kind of braindead, oversimplified thinking is that it's sort of a self fulfilling prophecy. Like, I'm actually now at the point where my positions on any given issue are identical to where I'd have arrived at if I started with the dogmatic belief of "GOP = bad and not GOP = good."
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Donald Trump 2020
From today's every accusation is a confession department, Trump is contemplating making life as miserable as possible for every American if he loses.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
What is the actual reason y'all believe that Merrick Garland would "legislate from the bench" more than Barrett or Kavanaugh? What examples of supreme court decisions of the last 50 years come to mind? I think this is a hole in my understanding of conservative opinion. I often hear trepidation about judicial activism, but I don't know what real world instances of judicial activism that you're thinking of.
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2020 Texas Early Voting Numbers
If this were to happen, I'd want the Dems to gather the Republican leadership into a room without any cameras or media, and show them two maps: one gerrymandered in favor of the Democrats, and the other done entirely fairly. Then tell the Republicans, "you'll get the fair one if you publicly disavow Trump and Qanon, and state your unequivocal support for the ongoing investigation of the Trump administration. If you don't, we'll make sure every Republican has to wait a minimum of six hours in line to vote for our next president."
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Right wing != Trumpism. Trumpism is not respected here, but nor should it be. It's batshit insane bullshit that's been somehow transmogrified into a mainstream political ideology merely by sheer numbers of driveling morons. But even with that point made, we still don't actually run off Trumpists. They're given every opportunity to provide evidence and reasoning for their perspective, or to challenge our own, but they simply can't -- for the same reason flat earthers can't really participate in legitimate scientific inquiry. So, when their nonsense fails to hold up to basic scrutiny, they inevitably give up and lay low for a while, waiting for the next news cycle to bring them a new batch of shitty gotchas to throw at us.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
I'd argue this message board has sustained a lot of healthy debate between people all over the political spectrum, with the lack of participation of right wing GOP types being an exception. But to me that's less about this message board having become an echo chamber and more that our current right wing is living in a different universe, and no message board can sustain two versions of reality.
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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]
Yep. We're not out of the woods until Trump, the GOP and the Deplorables are all defeated permanently as a political force. If being on the ledge is a metaphor for predicting the downfall of our society, count me on the ledge until that happens.