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  1. 19 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

    We're losing a lot less this year in terms of pitching than we did last year. 

    Last year we lost 3/4 starters (Cooper, Johnston, Kennedy) and then several bullpen arms too (Mayes, Schimpf, Malmin). 

     

    Sort of. We'll probably lose Kingham, Shugart, Sawyer, PJR, and McGuire.   We definitely lost more talent last year, but we also have less talent to replace what we lost this year (barring some freshmen phenoms), so I think the impact on the team will be similar.  Next year will probably be a healthy step back, especially losing Kody's production, with 2020 being the year we rebound when a lot of the elite arms we bring in this recruiting class have some seasoning.

  2. 34 minutes ago, Machinator said:

    If you combined Oscar Giles and Tim Beck together, you either get the most lethal assistant coach we've had on the 40 in a while, or an especially useless sack of potatoes. the most horrifying coach ever imagined: Derew Mehrhimenger. 

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  3. 1 minute ago, rickyspub said:

    The problem for Giles is that the offense is killing him he's on the trail. If we had won 9 or 10 last year, we probably have a better pick of players this year. And so long as we don't crater this season, next year's class could be elite, all without Giles doing anything but selling wins. 

    fify. 

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  4. Shugart has been a sometimes frustrating player to root for during his time here, but damn, if he isn't making up for all that this last month.  Closed out the IU game with two strikeouts with bases loaded. Pitched well against TTech, and now he's just fucking dealing against UF with strikeout after strikeout.

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  5. 5 minutes ago, rickyspub said:

    I don't have a soft spot for any of the Big 12. Fuck them all, but also fuck OU again.

    Eh. I enjoyed watching Iowa State have a resurgence under Campbell last year, especially during their OU game. Now, if they beat us at home this year, then I'm deleting this post.

    I also generally root for Okie State when they're not playing us or their games don't have an affect on where we finish in conference.  I guess, what I'm really saying is I enjoy watching teams beat OU or teams that hate  OU.

    So, in conclusion, fuck OU. 

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  6. 1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

    Yea, that's a really tough position..... I would plan like he's not coming back if he's not going to help in deciding for the future.  Nothing more you can do.

    There's no way he's coming back. Dick move of him to not tell them, but they should know anyways.  Plus, if Lebron was coming back, he'd want input on who they pick, or more likely, want them to trade it for a vet. He definitely wouldn't be silent on the topic.

  7. 19 minutes ago, bamachine said:

    Fuck that nonsense. I only have contempt for most other teams in the conference. I do have a little soft spot for MissSt and Vandy. I am neutral on LSU, yes they are a yearly game, they consider us a rival but they make some damned fine tailgating food and will share it with those that can get past the tigah bait chant. Fuck the rest of the SEC West and couldn't care less about the rest of the East, except fuck the Vols and I hope UK eventually breaks the streak vs UF.

    This is how a blue blood views conference mates. 

  8. 3 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:

    Trading our 2nd (arguably 1st) best player isn’t “Dumping Trash” lol. And Powell is a nice young piece too. Something tells me you haven’t watched many Mav games.

    Those players along with Parson’s shit contract may be worth it for Memphis.

    Uhhh, Barnes VORP (like WAR in baseball): -0.1, he had an Ortg of 105 and a Drtg of 111, which is a net of negative 6 points per 100 possessions. He had a WS/48 of .70. League average is .100.   He's not good and he's massively overpaid. Just because he's the Mavs 2nd best player doesn't mean he's valuable. He's a net negative, especially with his contract factored in. 

  9. 7 minutes ago, Dar Adal said:

    Do people not know how bad Parson's contract is?

    Parsons contract isn't that bad and there's only two years left. Next year, it could become an asset as an expriring contract to another team. Plus, who the hell are the Grizzlies gonna sign even if they dumped that money? No big time free agent is going there. Dumping Parson's deal is only valuable if there's someone you need to sign with that money.

    Regarding your trade, Parsons and Barnes both have two years left at $24-25 mil. So the Griz would not get any cap relief and would only get Barnes for the #4 pick. That is a god awful trade. Barnes is arguably a net negative when you factor in his contract. 

    3 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:

    Barnes is a better player than most people give him credit for, and he’s still fairly young. Barnes and a future protected 1st or Barnes and Powell/Wes should do the trick.

    Lol. Barnes might be worth a late first to some teams who have no cap space but need/want to improve, but he's not very good. Pretty much every advanced metric says he's an average to below average player AND he's being paid $25 million per year.

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  10. 8 minutes ago, Dar Adal said:

    You could likely get 4 + Parson's Contract for Barnes      Doncic 4, Porter Jr 5 

     

     

    I've seen a ton of talk about the Griz wanting to get rid of Parsons' contract, which is obvious. Why wouldn't they?

    But then people keep assuming they're willing to just dump the #4 overall pick to do so. Where are people getting this huge jump from?! That would be an insane amount to give up. 

  11. Just now, TreatyOak said:

    But, Lawnghorn, if you absolutely had to choose, which would you bet on, based on the very limited sample you have witnessed?  Also, have you ever stated whom would you prefer between Sam and Shane?  

    I'd tentatively pick Rising over Thompson. 

    I'd much more confidently pick Sam over Shane, although I think both will be relied on this year.  If Sam can cut down his turnovers/bone head plays even just by half this year, he'll be a significantly better option than Shane.  Sam moved the ball much better than Shane did last year.  Also, Sam fits what the staff wants to run better and Herman/Beck showed last year they're not very willing to adjust what they want to do.

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  12. 38 minutes ago, Eggo said:

    Vince Young was 6'5 195 coming out of high school. He took a redshirt to develop. Not saying Casey Thompson is the next VY, but it's hard to say Rising has a better career just becaue he's got like 50 pounds on Thompson as an 18 year old. 

    So many ridiculous things about this post. lulz.

    First, that's not what he said. He said "build and arm." Rising is a better passer and has a much higher ceiling as a passer.  Thompson struggled quite a bit with being consistently accurate in HS.

    Second, making a comparison to how much weight VY gained is ridiculous. Thompson's frame could limit how much he can run.  He's 6'0, 190 with a fairly slender frame. He's also already pretty developed physically, so he doesn't have a whole lot of weight to add.  

    All that said, I like both a lot and it's tremendous that we got two quality QBs in the same class. They're very different players and the offense would look different with each of them at the helm.  At this point, it's hard to say who will be better because they both have a lot of developing left to do, and who knows what rate each will develop at.

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  13. 1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

    All the guys have a lot of development left, but an elite 3-level scorer at Porter's size is an insanely coveted player in the NBA. You're right that the injury is a huge deal, but if a team feels good about that, it's easy to see his value after pick 3 or 4.

    I agree. Right around pick #5 is where I'd start to consider taking him. 

  14. 4 hours ago, Katfid54 said:

    Yep.  And remember that Adeoye in 2018 was always posing in the #20.

    This is a very important thing to remember.

    You should probably go post it on the Football board and tell them we let players take pictures with chrome helmet logos that appear Tennessee orange while adding some black to the jersey just to see some heads explode with the remains flying right by some "get off my lawn!" signs.

  15. 4 minutes ago, ousux said:

    Thing is, all of them now have the size, strength and experience to play better than a 5* recruit starting for the first season. I'm not too worried about DL as long as injuries aren't an issue.

    The talk about DL recruiting isn't in regard to how it will affect us this year.

  16. 40 minutes ago, golfclap said:

     

    The biggest issue with DL recruiting isn't Giles. It's the class of 2019 in Texas. Outside of Leal there is no DL in the state that is in the above category. I guess Stripling could be but I don't think he's a given as a difference maker. He'll be a good contributor but I could see his ceiling limiting him beyond that. Then what? I'm not a huge believer in NaNa, so then what are you left with? It's simply a bad year for no-doubter impact DL in the state and since Texas didn't close out the 4 games last year that we could/should have - it's an enormous task to sell "what will be" to these OOS impact DL guys that have offers from everywhere. So instead you have to hope that your hit rate on guys with high ceilings can carry this class over between the 2018 and 2020 classes. 2020 features guys like Alec Bryant, Branard Wright, James Sylvester, and Vernon Broughton. It's still early for DL projections but the 2020 class is going to be far better than 2019 (as was 2018). Even guys like Umanmielen and Nwankwo look to have bigger upsides than this 2019 class. Taking a combination of 3 of those guys and 1 elite OOS defender would go a long way towards covering for any misses on developmental prospects in 2019 and give them 3-5 years to be in the system and attempt to tap that upside and let Yancey do his thing. 

       

     

    Eh. I disagree the issue is just limited to 2019 in-state talent.  The staff has gone OOS at almost every other position where there are deficiencies with the 2019 in-state crop or they missed out on in-state targets: WR (Smith and some other targets), DB (Watson, likely getting Adimora and/or Gates) LB (Floyd and possibly others), RB (Cain, sort of), TE.   So far, we could get Williams for DL (I'm not clear on where we're at with him), but he seems to be the only realistic option right now, maybe things get hotter with Johnson or the Hawaiian kid.  Without going back into the 2018 stuff or the conversation we had earier this cylce, I'll just say the staff has missed more at DL since it got here than any other position, and by a good bit.  They've mitigated those misses pretty well and will hopefully continue to do so, but they have been missing.

    31 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    You're putting a lot of faith in what the OU $9.95ers are reporting about Tatum's issue, including the ringleader, who happens to be a convicted felon. They're getting their information from Thibodeaux, who functions like a sieve to them as he knew most of them when he was a recruit and player. He's got several agendas on this one. There may or may not be a deeper issue with getting his ass into school and it's likely that the given excuse isn't the full excuse.

    I'm not putting much faith in it; it's just the only thing I've seen either way. I'd be happy to not see Tatum at OU, although I hope he gets it worked out somewhere else.

     

  17. 15 minutes ago, tokamak said:

    What do you make of us taking Sweat's commitment so early? Sure does seem like we wanted to keep him away from aggy.

    I'm not sure. It seemed strange to me. There's not much film on him, so it's a little hard to tell, but I haven't seen any film of him that was all that impressive. His testing numbers aren't very good at all, and I don't think he'll provide much pass rush.

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    • Vertical: 24.4
    • Powerball: 37.5

    He does have some basketball clips where he shows good functional athleticism.  My guess is the staff thinks he can be a 6'4 Chris Nelson, which is a good, useful player. 

    13 minutes ago, Fud said:

    LSU lost a ton of important contributors from last year, especially their best player in starting running back Guice, 2nd string RB, starting FB, two starting WRs, starting LT, two starting DEs, a backup DE, starting NT, two starting CBs, starting C, and starting S

    To recap: 

    Starters lost: QB, RB, FB, WR1, WR2, LT, RT, C, DE, DE NT, S, CB, CB

    2nd string contributors lost: RB, DE

    They also have a potential starting corner who's been suspended and in limbo for awhile now in Kristian Fulton

    They also lost a few other depth guys who probably weren't going to contribute 

    They did of course land a starting upperclassman QB in Joe Burrow, who should help cover up some of their holes, and they were able to bring in JUCO OL Badora Traore, but relying on JUCOs to start right away is always iffy. 

    TLDR: for another year at least, they'll probably be able to out-talent much of the schedule despite having a retarded cajun shrek coaching the team, but they'll likely still lose to Bama, Auburn, Miami, and maybe Florida

    Yeah, LSU lost a ton and the spots where they still have some good talent don't have depth behind that talent. If they're lucky, they could stay healthy and ahve a year like last year but if a couple injuries hit they'll be in a world of trouble. Burrow is the wild card. Without him they were going to be absolutely fucked. If it turns out that he's really good, then they'll be fine this year most likely.  Regardless, I think the mess and lack of organization/guidance from Coach O will overshadow LSU's talent. 

  18. 18 minutes ago, Fud said:

    Their DL class was loaded, although I thought Perkins was really overrated, Michael Johnson recently tore his ACL, and Tatum is still trying to qualify 

    Their's definitely some question marks.  It sounds like Tatum's issue was just a class he never took because his school admin screwed up, so I'm thinking he'll make it in. If not, that 's a huge blow because he's really underrated. He's a borderline 5 star IMO. Agree that Perkins is overrated, although I would've liked to get him last year regardless.  Idk much about Johnson. He seemed kind of overrated and a guy who struggles with weight recovering from an ACL tear is iffy, but if one of those guys turnout, plus having Tatum and Redmond (who's also weirdly overrated but still really good due to 247 making him the #16 player in teh country. WTF!), that's still a great class.  Their 2019 class isn't quite as strong so far, but that DC kid they got is good and I like Marcus Hicks a lot too.  

    Edit: Sejir makes a good point. Fuck OU. They suck.

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