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Posts posted by Goredho
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31 minutes ago, NoName said:
BECAUSE THE ELITES WILL SILENCE HIM IF HE MOVES TOO QUICKLY, DUH
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I’m confused.  Isn’t that what Surly is?
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5 minutes ago, Message Board User said:
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Watching this real outbreak makes me appreciate the accuracy of plague, inc’s outbreak model.
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None of the above. I feel a need to be prepared to lose access to our town because we live in a relatively remote rural area where our access to town is dependent on 4 people keeping things open and accessible. It would only take 1 or 2 of the wrong people getting severely ill for us to lose access to the grocery store, liquor store, medical facilities, etc...
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3 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:
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6 minutes ago, Bevo said:
The NIH Head of Allergy and Infectious Disease has been the more pronounced leader in this epidemic. And HHS has done pretty well. The CDC has been decent on the epidemiology and science fronts but hasn't been performing great on the response front. Blame whoever you feel like blaming.
Agreed.
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37 minutes ago, G650 said:
My actual serious take is this thing is obviously in every state and has been for awhile. Because so many people have very mild symptoms or are completely asymptomatic, it passes undetected.
I agree. The awareness of this coronavirus is similar to what began to unfold in the 1980s related to HIV. At the time, HIV looked like a new virus that appeared out of nowhere. But we now know the HIV spillover event from chimp-to-human happened in the late 19th/early 20th century in Central Africa and that it festered undetected in the human population until the 1980s. This coronavirus has a much more rapid onset of symptoms than HIV, so it won't have hidden from view as long, but I would bet we find out it was spreading outside of China much earlier than officials believe now.
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10 minutes ago, Errestaurants said:
I listened to this interview and the NYC doctor was adamant that shit is ramping up here in a bad way. He was pissed at the CDC and they are to blame when this gets bad due to sending out botched test kits and putting us behind by at least three weeks with testing.Â
Criticism of the CDC needs to be considered within the bigger picture of what value our government places on public health. That value serves as a limit on the ability of public health orgs like the CDC to react, especially early, during a time of crisis such as the one we find ourselves in now. Select elements from the following link are in the spoiler tag so that they may be ignored as desired by those who do not want to consider our government's role in public health.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-cut-cdc-budget/.
As fears spread about a new coronavirus outbreak growing into a pandemic, so did concerns about the readiness of the United States to deal with the virus.
Although it’s true that Trump’s fiscal year 2021 budget proposal does propose a funding cut to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), that budget has not been enacted.
This is not the first time Trump’s administration has proposed cuts to the CDC budget. However, such proposals do not always amount to funds lost.  Trump’s budgets have proposed cuts to public health, only to be overruled by Congress, where there’s strong bipartisan support for agencies such as the CDC and NIH. Instead, financing has increased.
Some public health experts say a bigger concern than White House budgets is the steady erosion of a CDC grant program for state and local public health emergency preparedness — the front lines in detecting and battling new disease. But that decline was set in motion by a congressional budget measure that predates Trump (who voted for this??).It is also true that in 2018 the Trump administration fired key officials connected to the U.S. pandemic response, and they were not replaced.
Also in 2018, news reports circulated about an 80% reduction in the CDC’s program that worked in various countries to fight epidemics. That was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding. “Countries where the CDC is planning to scale back include some of the world’s hot spots for emerging infectious disease, such as China, Pakistan, Haiti, Rwanda and Congo,” the Washington Post reported in 2018. -
41 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:
Well, let's see why we're fucked:
The majority of Americans can't stay home from work because they won't get paid (either immediately, or because they have very limited sick leave). So, sick people will go to work.
If you have symptoms, then the right thing to do may be to show up and get tested....but under our system, that's not a public health action. That's just your private medical care, which you have to pay for (even with insurance, see high-deductible plans etc.). So, why would you incur a huge expense to protect other people?
If you are seriously ill, you'll put off expensive medical care because it's expensive. And by the time you realize you really need care, it's too late, and you die.
Our system is set up to fucking fail, and badly, in a communicable disease public health crisis.
And as for economics, global projections right now are that if this pandemic is handled WELL, and is brought under control quickly, it will take the global growth rate down from 3% to 2.5%. And if it's handled about like we think it will be (poorly), then that drop will be from 3% to 1.5%.
We don't really know what the death rate is, so I'm not speaking to how bad it is as a disease. I'm just talking about the effects that we know about -- how we will react, and how the economy will react. Not great.
1. The GOP believes tax breaks for the very wealthy and corporations are more important than public health. Their budgets the past few years show exactly how much they prioritize public health. That strategic mismanagement is why we are slow to respond to this, and they are already trying to pin that on the Democrats. I hope people are smart enough to connect the dots and hold our current leadership's feet to the fire, but you already see a lot of local criticism being thrown at the CDC for the NoCal case and the SA case without anyone mentioning that that the CDC has been forced to operate on a shoe-string budget. Its the same misdirection loop as being used with regards to public education -- defund the system, watch the system decay, amplify the noise about how ineffectual the system is, use that as justification for further defunding, literally profit.
2. Goddamit, jump into politics and run for some office already. For the love of God.
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6 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:
Posted this yesterday. Watch the Iranian numbers go from 1000 cases to 1000 recovered in a dayI’ve been wondering how you count the secondary and tertiary deaths.  People who die not from the virus but from the societal ripple it causes (most applicable to 2nd and 3rd world countries vs the US).
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That video reminded me of shooting off Estes model rockets on our land as a kid.  I remember having the idea that we could make a warhead with saltpeter and black powder and went so far as to make some design diagrams.  Fortunately, the project never matured to a test phase, or I would have probably ended up dead like this fucking guy.
Anyway, we salute you flat-earth homemade rocket man!  While you only proved that gravity exists, the child in all of us lived again for that first 1.3 seconds of your final ride.
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RayDog is going to outlive everyone in Centex.
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Anyone see Carlos Santana in the past couple years? Â Is he still worth watching live?
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Let me clarify.  That’s what I think the Dems should be doing.
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Being prepared is a whole lot easier when you take the approach of, “Fuck it, I’m going to get it.  If I die, I die.  But until then, it’s going to be a lot easier if I can just sit my deathly-ill-yet-comfortably-numb ass on the sofa and live off my stockpile instead of having to fight against the raging current of humanity looting the shelves at HEB.”
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When there starts being news of local transmission and death in your community is when you’ll see most people start to get concerned and start preparing.  Ironically, the rush for goods will result in more infections than otherwise.  I’m glad I won’t be among them, even if most of what I bought winds up getting donated.
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I think they should say, “This is a public health emergency of the highest importance and we need to focus on getting a handle on it.  There will be time to look back on what could and should have been done strategically in recent years and tactically during the outbreak.  But that discussion needs to be had once we have ramped up our ability to respond to this threat.”
Keep accruing facts but wait to drop it all in June/July when things slow a bit with warming weather and as a response to Trump claiming victory over Coronavirus.
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And which party has been slashing the budget of the CDC and other public health orgs the past few years?
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8 minutes ago, RayDog said:Does having sex with 5 or 6 different women a week make me immunologically naive or a super spreader?
It makes you a goddamn American hero.
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40 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:
This woman is running for a California congressional seat.
ÂWould have been the easiest $100 Brisket ever made.
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11 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:
And he’s still rocking the labial neck wattle.
The disembodied voice of Morgan Freeman says, “Of all his misdeeds, Trump’s ruin of the camel toe would be his worst.”
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1 hour ago, Deej said:
Agree. I'm not so sure I didn't have it. Fucked up respiratory shit for a week that went away for a few days, then came back, all happening shortly after employees returned from China. Feeling much better, now, after hitting those herbal antivirals posted upthread, but...
Same exact experience two weeks ago after a trip to Florida that included a day at Legoland and a day at Universal Studios.
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20 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:
My takeaway: compare Trump’s demeanor today to his “caravan” press conferences. Pretty striking the difference when faced with a REAL emergency.
He’s completely comfortable acting a part in a fictional narrative.  But when forced to be a real leader in a real crisis he’s fucking exposed.
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Anyone got a link to the full press conference or whatever it was?

Dry Ice chemistry lesson accidentally re-learned by Russian insta-gramer costs 3 lives
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Should be set to “Smoke on the Water.”