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  1. 8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


    But it impacts his - and our - credibility when dealing with our (former) allies.

    It will take decades to undo the damage, if ever.

    Remember that, next time we need to build, say, an international military coalition. If you were Germany or France, or Canada, etc...would you join up, or say “gee, we would, but we’re gonna be washing our hair for the next 5 years?”

    People remember when you treat them like shit and take their friendship for granted.

    This x1000.  Even if Trump leaves office early, Pence steers us back on course and the next President is a diplomatic ringer that puts our allies at ease, every interaction with the US from this point forward is going to be mulled over with “another Trump scenario” as a worst case.  It’s taken decades to build up the relationships with the other G7 nations, and it was stewarded by both Republicans and Democrats during that time.  Trump is going to undo it all in 4 short years.

    Here is an interesting thing to ponder: if 9/11 happened tomorrow, what would the reaction of the world be?  Who could we count on to support us in the UN?  Who would contribute in an alliance of multinational forces for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?

  2. My wife's brother committed suicide when he was in high school, she in Jr high.  He was having lots of problems with their mom.  He left a suicide note behind for everyone but mom.  Nothing for her.  He had a girlfriend at the time.  She killed herself a short time later.

    Both my wife, her mom and her father are all still profoundly affected by this, some 25 years later.  The amount of pain and anguish they went through and still deal with on days like his birthday or mother's day really makes it hard for me to have sympathy for him.  He didn't just kill himself.  He killed part of them.

    I hope no one goes through what I've seen this family deal with as a result of his suicide.

    Edit:  So in my opinion, no, its not at all the same as dying of cancer.  Had this guy died of cancer, his mom and pop wouldn't be blaming themselves for the rest of their lives for his death.  His sister wouldn't be wondering for the rest of her life what she could have done to stop it.  They would be able to remember the beautiful moments of his life because he hadn't made the choice to fucking end it.  His suicide was the most selfishly immoral act possible.

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  3. 9 hours ago, Washpark said:

    Guess he checked in for his last reservation....

    Interesting comparison between this thread / response and Kate Spade's.

    I honestly didn't know who either of them were.  But Kate Spade killed herself at least in part due to marital problems and left behind a suicide note for her 13-year-old daughter telling her to ask daddy why mommy killed herself.  Fuck that bitch.

  4. 3 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

    Some team should accept his offer and when they play the anthem kneel right there on the White House lawn. The scene would be better than any Hollywood movie. 

    One hand over your heart, the other raised in a clenched fist.

  5. 17 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

    Yes. The only reason this investigation is happening is because of Jeff Sessions.  Not because of the actual collusion but the fact you picked a supposed loyalist who actually put his legal ethics ahead of your desires.

    Damnit Dotard. Don’t make me feel even one ounce of sympathy for that little weasel. 

    I have a feeling that Sessions’ act to recuse himself and to stay on the job will prove to be a significant act of political heroism when all is said and done.  If he says “fuckit, I’m out” — and man he HAS to want to —  then the dominoes fall such that American democracy and the rule of law become a complete sham.  Sessions would be replaced by a hatchet man to get rid of Rosenstein.  Rosenstein would be replaced by a fixer to get rid of Mueller and make the special investigation go away.  There would be a review, conducted by more thoroughly vetted loyalists, that would side with Trump and “prove” it was all a #WITCHHUNT.  He’d use that “exoneration” as justification for his new appointees to conduct a sweeping purge of members of the “deep state” in the justice department.  That is to say, a purge of anyone who is not an absolute loyalist to Trump.  With this only currently-being-exercised check on his authority removed, Trump would be free to really #MAGA shit up.

    Sometime’s there’s a man, who... well... he’s the man for his time and place...

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  6. 3 hours ago, GRHorn said:

     

    Wait I guess I misread it.  I thought he meant Dems would’ve impeached their own party’s President, not Republicans impeaching D Pres.  

    The dems have never promoted a wanna-be despot to the presidency, so we can't say how they would react to one of their own:

    • Courting a foreign power to influence a presidential election
    • Seeking to squash an investigation into the above matter
    • Waging a campaign to discredit and undermine our justice department and intelligence agencies
    • Willfully ignoring the ongoing threat to our election processes
    • Weakening our standing in the world by wantonly reneging on international agreements
    • Starting an unprovoked and ill-conceived trade war to who-knows-what butterfly effect
    • Alienating our traditional democratic allies while cozying up to totalitarian regimes
    • Hinting through proxies that they could commit murder and be immune from any legal consequence

    I could go on, but if that's not enough, then you have no ability to be reasoned with.  Even in a domain as ugly as politics, Trump is a giant leap beyond the pale.  There is no precedent except the one the GOP is currently shamefully setting.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    Is a legal analysis even necessary?  Even if by some interpretation the language of the law allowed for a president to pardon himself for treason, no democratic country would ever let it happen.  There are a lot of worthless idiot trumpsters out there, but there's no fucking way he would get away with pardoning himself for treason.

    Reason #3428 that Trump needs to GTFO:  Anyone who considers the office of the President above the law is unfit to hold the office of the President.

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  8. 1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    I wonder if Trump would pardon someone for shooting Comey.

    just kidding but not really

    Whoever shoots Comey will get a pardon AND the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

  9. 1 hour ago, retread said:

    We're purportedly separating children from their parents and interning them in an old Walmart with the windows blacked out. America 2018.

    So THATS what Jade Helm was really about

  10. 7 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

    Beta cuck?  Keep it original fuckstick.  Is fuckstick a word?  Can I call you that?  

    Keep carrying my water you poor bitch.  This Maybach doesn’t drive itself.  

    Sorry, dude, I fucking loathe Trump. Not sure what came over me.  Must have been the Ambien.

  11. 36 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

    I saw a bum passed out in SF with his pants down to his knees in the Market District one afternoon. People were literally stepping over him and around him, and he had a long string of yellow crime scene tape coming out of his ass and extending away from him for about six feet. Dude had wiped his ass with crime scene tape and then just left it there...And nobody gave a fuck. 

    That’s the stupid liberal tolerance shit Trump is busy purging from America.  You’d never see that happen here in Lufkin, but you don’t see a lot of libs here either, hah!

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  12. Wow, you lib CRYBABIES are always trying to spin Trump’s wins into something negative.  Trump may not be as “polished” as you beta-cucks would like, but if you had a lick of sense you would see how shrewd of a leader and businessman he truly is.

    He saved us BILLIONS, maybe TRILLIONS in disaster relief costs in Puerto Rico.  Obama or Hillary would have handed Carmen Cruz the FUCKING CHECKBOOK.  Who knows how much she would have run up our national debt?  Buying up food, water, generators, pointy-boots and other shit that my TAXES shouldn’t have to pay for.  The leechers from that shithole need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and quit trying to suck off the government teat.

    The only thing I can criticize Trump for is not building a MOAT between us and PR and getting them to PAY FOR IT!!

  13. Its been a little confusing to see the statements coming out of Trump, Giulliani, etc... recently.  To see a winning strategy in it legally.  I read something somewhere that made a decent case that team Trump is basically ceding both the ethics and legality of his actions that are being examined.  That the strategy is simply political armageddon and subtle intra-party coercion.  Get ugly stuff like paying Stormy out into the open early so its effects are numbed over time.  Then whip up the base into a frenzy over WITCHUNT and SPYGATE so that any Republicans voting to impeach Trump wind up committing political suicide with the GOP base come the next primary.  Trump is then simply making the (pretty safe) bet that when push comes to shove the justice department won't indict a sitting president and that GOP congress-critters will vote in their own political self-interest during any impeachment proceedings.  That that's why you are seeing an attempt by team Trump to accelerate the investigation and bring the moment for congressional action to a head before the mid-terms.  Not simply because Trump's party is in control of both the House and Senate, but because Trump has leverage over the GOP with his core supporters.  And that this is a contributing factor to the exodus of GOP members of congress.  They see themselves being positioned into that corner and are opting out before getting trapped there.

  14. 5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    The olds and military personnel/vets tend to hold Memorial Day as a pretty sacred day.  They also understand the difference between Memorial Day and Veteran's Day.

    Like Goredho, I saw similar types in my family commenting on FB, folks who were either fans of Trump, or didn't have much of a problem with him.  They were not pleased that Trump couldn't restrain himself.

    Yeah, the consensus was no matter what you thought of Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton or Obama, they at least had the basic human decency to treat Memorial Day with the solemnity it deserves.

  15. media-bias is societal bias.  In the day of twitter, blogs, etc... people have the choice to tune in to exactly what they want to hear and they do.  Very few people want to be challenged in their thinking.  For-profit news in this country has to find a ideological demographic to appeal to in order to survive.

  16. 6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

     


    That was the last straw? A tweet on Memorial Day?

     

    It seems to be the tweet that broke through the cognitive dissonance of some of his previously ardent supporters *shrugs*

  17. 23 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

    Smdh 

     

    Yo, Trumpkins!  What’s worse?  Kneeling for the national anthem to protest police violence, or standing on the bodies of fallen soldiers to sing your own praises?

    If the active military personnel and their families on my FB feed are any indicator, Trump lost some backers yesterday.

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