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Brian Fantana

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  1. 40 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Yes, it is, but, to temper that a bit....it's also textbook Medvedev.  He is the world's designated nuclear saber-rattler. 

    Yes this is true, he's the hype girl. I'm more interested in whatever their official statements are.

  2. 5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    I would be okay with the strikes if actual evidence was produced stating that "in the past month or three, Iran sped it up, and they are weeks away from nuclear-tipped missiles".

    They've been 3 seconds to midnight on nuclear weapons for the last 30 years. I'll start believing it when I see actual evidence that isn't "trust me, bro".

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  3. Just now, Brisketexan said:


    Oh…you know they had that intel. Oct 7 is turning out to be the best thing that ever happened to Bibi, and there’s not even a close second.

    That smug little Nazi is getting everything he wanted, when he belongs in a prison cell.

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  4. 1 hour ago, immamac said:

    Fucking act like it then. Right now you are fighting the reality that the US is actively engaged in War with Iran. 

     

    1 hour ago, immamac said:

    Sorry man, but I'm really against the narrative now that we are involved that Iran gets to do anything but fight back and be annihilated or surrender. 

     

    Every party involved (America/Isreal/Iran) is now run by extremists. You're sitting there screaming "OH MY GOD YOU GUYS ARE ROOTING FOR IRAN TO WIN" because some of us are concerned this action won't ultimately accomplish anything but draw us into a long, expensive conflict when our economy is already in a brittle state as it is.

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  5. 11 minutes ago, G650 said:

    I am completely stumped why anyone thinks this would be the case. We didn't zap Iran with the Men in Black memory eraser, we just bombed them. It's a temporary delay to their program at worst. 

    I've kind of been of the opinion that if Iran really wanted a nuke, they could have had one by now. They're not stupid, and it's not like the process of building a fission bomb is a closely guarded secret.

    The whole point of having nukes is to not get nuked.

    Plus, people have been pointing this out but the likelihood of them moving their stockpile has to be close to 100%. They had plenty of time to do it and it's not that much material, relatively speaking.

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  6. 13 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

    A war with Iran is just the excuse he needs to clamp down on any domestic dissent.  Any anti war protests will be crushed by the military.

    It's like nobody watched the clone wars dammit! 😜

    I honestly wonder how true this is. If foreign policy decisions are being solely made by Trump and Stephen Miller, it makes me think we're just all dead.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    And the Iranian leadership will have to respond - any major sign of weakness and the population could easily pop off.

    Yeah this is the kicker. They absolutely have to respond, they have no choice. And we're going to be the targets this time.

  8. 1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

    So you think over simplification of the Iranian/US history in relation to where those relations stand today is bad practice? 

    Yes no maybe I'm not sure

    Just now, Hook1997 said:

    Well there you go….  A well known chant of Israel isn’t death to multiple countries that they try to teach their children.  Also getting off the topic of the actual topic of the current reasons and more to root issues at this point. 

    Perhaps you should look up the Likud charter.

  9. 3 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

    To say part of the hate isn’t religious/clan based that’s been going on forever is kinda idiotic.  Yea there’s a lot more going on and has been political wise but the root of it is that and the regime has pretty much said as much.  

    Part of it, sure, but Iran and Israel have no real reason to be adversaries beyond the extremists in charge of both sides.

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  10. 1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

    I said:

    Because they believe Israel and honestly Jews, Christians and religious freedom, should not exist, and the US supports those in various ways. Add to it they've been in bed with Russia since inception. Yeah... I wonder why too.

    All of this started when you responded to someone "Gee I wonder why" when they noted that Iran has been attacking us via proxies for 40 years.

    I understand, I'm not saying what you said isn't true of the mullahs. I'm saying it leaves out a lot of historical context of why Iran is the way it is today and our role in that. I don't understand why so many Americans are so allergic to any level of accountability.

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  11. 3 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

    We aren't going to war. We are bombing Iran from afar and letting Israel put boots on the ground and die in that manner.

    If this is truly contained, and we did truly obliterate (taking both statements with a bath tub of salt), then this was an amazing and awesome military exercise and America, the region (specifically Israel) and the world is better for it.

    I hope you're right.

  12. Just now, BurntEyes said:

    Fuck sake.

    Over the last 40 years has:

    The current Iranian Regime been closely aligned with Russia?

    Was there a cold war between Russia and the US during a large portion of that time?

    Are there still current tensions between the US and Russia?

    Has Iran, during the last 40 years attack the US via proxies multiple times? 

    Does the current Iranian regime believe that Israel, the US, Christianity and religious freedom should cease to exist?

    Do you believe the actions by the US in prior to 1979 is entirely to blame for the attacks via proxies by Iran on the US? 

    What? No, not entirely, my point was you offered the "they hate us cuz they ain't us" take without bothering to offer any historical context at all.

  13. Yeah, what did I say about things getting worse again? I really hope this is fake.

    1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

    You sound very upset. Why is that?

    I don't want us to go to war or for any Americans do die at the behest of Israel.

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  14. 1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

    I never said that we should ignore history prior to 1979. You're also vastly oversimplifying what happened in 1979 and ignoring what happened since. 

    It's like discussing quantum physics with a child.

    Point out, specifically, what I said that was wrong. I'll wait. I'm not ignoring what happened since, I'm pro regime change. What you said was still an extremely dumb rationalization that you usually only hear from people that want to manufacture consent for really awful shit.

  15. 1 minute ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

    Are you worried about the numbers? 

    Not particularly, it's just a crazy amount of money and feels like it might be a drop in the bucket compared to what could be coming.

  16. Just now, BurntEyes said:

    The original thing you quoted was that Iran has been attacking us via proxies for 40 years, which is true and you said you wonder why.. 

    What I said was historically accurate. You can choose to ignore history and reality, doesn't mean it ceases to exist. 

    I'm not claiming its why they were bombed tonight but history matters. 

    What you said was a bullshit, whitewashed, rationalization of why Iran hates us. History matters, but not the part where we deposed their democratically elected leadership, installed an oppressive monarchy that squeezed Iranians for 26 years resulting in the Iranian Revolution that installed the extremists that now control the country, right? We should just ignore everything that happened before 1979 because it's inconvenient for your narrative.

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