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Brian Fantana

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  1. People had to open their eyes at some point. Most Americans just don't really know shit about this conflict. It's fine, I mean it's not, but we all knew it would take some awful tragedy to get it started. It was just a matter of when and how bad.

    I'd rather it be this than an invasion/carpet bombing of Rafah. Not that it still can't happen, but yeah.

  2. 47 minutes ago, statsman said:

    Israel’s problem isn’t solved by pushing Palestinians away. They are Iran’s proxies. Hamas has missiles because Iran supplies them (and to Hezbollah). 
     
    Since we’re talking about Senitics here, can I ask about semantics? If driving a people away is “genocide”, can we then say that Germany (and most of Europe, and the Arab world of the mid 20th century) were successful in their genocide? Since they drove almost all of the Jews away?

    Absolutely. Who would deny this besides groypers on the internet?

  3. 9 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

    Again, the permanent solution is to remove the Palestinians to outside of missile range of the Israelis. We all want that, even you I hope.

    Imagine just flat out admitting you love genocide.

  4. 21 minutes ago, Skipper said:

    A post from 10/28?  Really? Wasn't that around the time of start of the Israeli invasion?  At some point Israel crossed a line but it certainly wasn't in October by my view.   But we're venturing out of current news territory bringing up old posts so I'll leave it at that.

    I'm just messing with you. Emotions were high from everyone in that month.

  5. 2 hours ago, Skipper said:

    That's a stretch.  I know you are prone to emotional posting lately

    On 10/28/2023 at 1:49 PM, Skipper said:

    If you are pro "cease fire" you are supporting Hamas.  Full stop.   

    Hot damn I love keeping receipts

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  6. 15 minutes ago, Satchel said:

    The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

    +1

    The evolution of this discussion is pretty fascinating. I basically got called an antisemitic conspiracy theorist for linking this article back in October.

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  7. 1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

    haven't read it but don't need to - it's why i have other unpopular opinions about israel despite my belief this war was justified - until they crossed a line yesterday

    They crossed that line months ago. They just have been getting bolder.

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  8. 29 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    He said on the record that Israel should agree to a ceasefire. That's about as centrist as it gets today. Yes, his history is far more staunch, same with several other issues on which he's softened (except pot for some dumb reason). 

    He said there should be a ceasefire. Right before we send 18b more weapons of war to Israel. That's called talking out of both sides of your mouth.

  9. 38 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    I have no idea if it was intentional, but I can see it being so to determine how far they can really go without losing support. No western ally leader can go against Israel and still win elections, especially the presidency of the United States. That's just how it is, unfortunately. Biden has called for a ceasefire without any teeth and that's about as far as he can go without losing tons of votes from the "I stand by Israel" crowd which still has many adherents on the left, primarily "centrist" democrats which are still a huge part of the party. It feels like I saw the story on multiple outlets initially and not much since. It's still the political reality of how things stand. I really wish young progressives would continue their advocacy without saying they won't vote for Biden. I have no doubt that Biden is pretty centrist on Israel, but even if he agreed with the young progressives, he can't push too hard without letting trump take the white house, in which case he'd probably just give Israel nukes to wipe Gaza off the map. 

    Lol Joe Biden is not centrist on Israel, not even close. Literally look at any part of his political history. He has been one of Israel's most staunch political allies his entire career. It's probably by far his most right wing and most longstanding position.

  10. 1 hour ago, statsman said:

    You don’t think mistakes happen? When ISIS blew up a dozen marines and 100 Afghans during the flight from Kabul, the U.S. responded by using a drone to blow up a car carrying an Afghan loyal to the U.S. and his family. 
     
    You don’t think mistakes happen?

    If it happens a few times, sure. Israel has at this point killed hundreds of aid workers in dozens of these "accidents". It's not a fucking mistake. The way this one went down makes it basically impossible to be a mistake. Stop reflexively caping for everything the IDF does and you'll wind up with a better perspective by default.

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

    It's not a controversial thing. They put their military headquarters under a hospital. They've been doing it for decades. It is well established. And again, their last military elements are hiding in Rafah amongst women and children.

    So you're not going to admit you just made that up? "It sounds right in my head" is not evidence of anything, counselor.

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  12. 29 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

    Kill authority is delegated from the CDR in Chief down to operational level commanders. If this were the US, the investigation would likely recommend these types of authorizations go to a higher level of commander. Higher level have a different education, and thus more sensitivity to politics. 

    Personally, I would set the policy so you don't attack third parties under any circumstances. However, that is likely to be the exact reason the high value Hamas target was intending to travel with WCK in the first place. So it's like every other fucking war dilemma. You don't win, not matter what you do. Nobody wins in war.

    Just quoting this for later so this utter piece of shit can't deny he was claiming WCK was sheltering Hamas.

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  13. 22 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    This is an astoundingly uninformed take. 

    It's not exactly accurate, but Israel regularly terrorizes and kills members of foreign press, and literally just legislated a major press organization out of the country. Not fascist at all!

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