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Bozo_Casanova

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  1. They won’t. Look, they didn’t make the optimal play in terms of what they were fighting for, and ended up setting the wrong expectations with their own base (y’all.) But this isn’t the disaster y’all seem to think it is, and the GOP messaging isn’t really going to land either. The bottom line is that this has been a political net positive for Democrats and a net negative for the GOP, and it could have very easily gone the other direction.
  2. Effective at what? People aren’t changing their minds. Y’all really need to stop internalizing Republican framing.
  3. lol so true Literally every successful turnaround of struggling political parties in the last century was mostly powered by party bases revolting against their own elite establishment. dejection got Donald Trump reelected. Anger wins midterms.
  4. Pretty much agree on the points and the takeaway So again, Democrats are chickenshit and left a little bit on the table, but probably extracted as much political advantage out of this as was realistic given the cast of characters involved. I’ll add a couple of things: 1) A dejected base hurts, but a pissed off base is an advantage. The Republican base is coming out of this feeling like something is wrong with their baseball bat. The Democrat base are coming out of it saying “fuck you, Jobu, I’ll do it myself.” 2) This weed thing McConnell pushed into the CR is potentially a huge gift.
  5. Wordle 1,605 4/6 ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ 🟩⬜⬜🟨⬜ 🟩🟩⬜⬜🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
  6. Oh goodness, this wound up in the CR. I wonder who’s face this will blow up in? My guess is that it rhymes with “derpublican” Where my libertarians at @Anastasis is this 85 or 15% territory?
  7. It sounds worse than it is. The affiliation only limits what primaries you can vote in, and they only happen once during a calendar year.
  8. This is the way
  9. Texas is an open primary state. Registration isn’t a thing. You just can’t vote in both primaries. So most of these ex Republicans on here (in this forum, I mean) have been “Democrats” since they participated in Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos” and voted/caucused for Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary. Our precinct caucus in HaysCo was Hilarious. I was an Obama precinct captain and everyone caucusing for Obama was like a regular Democrat. The people caucusing for Clinton were like 1/3 regular Democrats, 1/3 well known Republicans and 1/3 ringers from out of state the Clinton campaign had bussed in and demanding to be recognized before they were physically ejected.
  10. And look, that sucks in terms of policy. But take heart- nobody expected the Democrats not to fold, especially not the swing voters. But the swing voters are the ones who are losing ACA subsidies and snap benefits, and by and large they do blame Republicans. Democrats folding won’t change their mind.
  11. I like the crowd shot
  12. Meanwhile the CR only has 59 votes because nobody seems to know where John Cornyn is.
  13. I flip friends votes fairly often. To do that all I have to do is convince them not to vote for people who haven’t done enough to keep their vote, which is mostly Republicans. I’m not trying to convince them to change anything about themselves
  14. Correct. And yet they still get my vote by default because the GOP is far worse, and I have no misgivings about that and experience no inner turmoil or disappointment. This is what a big tent is: a coalition of belligerents who can tolerate each other, accepting the enemy of your enemy as a friend. I can do that. Can you?
  15. Btw- I love all these true believer progressive Democrats who are mad at their party leadership calling me a clown for getting understanding the play when I literally left the party over this shit a decade ago.
  16. Indeed it wasn’t. The only outcomes were going to be who hurt the most. That was Republicans. were you expecting Chuck fucking Schumer to extract some kind of policy win?
  17. Or, maybe realize you don’t need to be a Democrat to vote against things
  18. No of course not. Democrats have no idea who the people who rely on SNAP and ACA subsidies are. They’ll talk to each other, they’ll talk to Republicans, and they will talk to The Groups. Under no circumstances will they manage to communicate with the actual human beings whose lives are impacted by all this. But luckily for the Democrats, those people will mostly blame Republicans because the Republicans do talk to them and the consistent message has been that Republicans are in charge.
  19. Democrats are the reason people who depend on food aid or ACA subsidies got hosed? Oh no Republicans will say mean things
  20. “The narrative” that will change literally zero votes. Yes. Democrats are pussies. Not news. But they’ve wrung about all the political value out of this shutdown they can. Republicans lost the shutdown because it made them less popular. Democrats were already at their floor. Maybe the real shutdown was the friends we made along the way. Dude. Opposition parties can’t usually get anything. But they can throw sand in the gears and they did. They left a little on the table this time but basically accomplished what they could here. If I was Schumer I would have held them together until the week of thanksgiving but all in all this wasn’t badly played.
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