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  1. 22 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

    You're not serious, right?  The same segment of voters that either ignored or were never going to be swayed by the 1/6 hearings are going to listen to a reasoned discussion on economic policy?

    No, not the dyed in the wool types. I get that. They’re incurable.

    But there’s a very large segment of people who are called swing voters who, in this case, allowed their priorities to be massively shifted towards misguided economic considerations and blaming Biden for same, which is just insane on so many levels. But the Democrats never even attempted to lure them out of that, and that also has the effect of inspiring insufficient turnout.

    Just wait and see what turnout happens to be at the end of all this, and consider what’s really at stake here. The issue really was 2020 denialism and all it implies, yet turnout will tell the sorry tale about how this was “just another election year” where the President’s party lost because of misconceptions about the economy.

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  2. 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

    When that law passed, smarter Democrats would have immediately built a movement to challenge any and all white Georgia voters, especially in the NW part of the state.

    But, Democrats have the tactical instincts of my chihuahua.

    They really do. They had the perfect opportunity to spend the last two years explaining to the American public how all this economic downturn really is on Trump’s policies. They could have spent the better part of the last two years explaining how the yield curve inverted in 2019 (ie pre-pandemic) due to Trump’s trade war and tariffs and all that goofy shit that was known at the time to court a recession (as yield curve inversions always do) in 2-3 years time. They knew all of this and didn’t even bother explaining to potential voters that “no, this pre-dates Biden’s presidency, it pre-dates his announced candidacy and it in fact pre-dates the entire pandemic.” It’s really breathtaking how horribly they fucked this up and put everything on Dobbs and January 6th to carry them through today. They had so many more bullets in that gun and figured firing two  would suffice.

    EDIT: and even if the mother of all miracles does happen and the Democrats manage to hold both chambers, two things:

    1. it should never have been that close

    2. they do not have the sense to put it to use. If they do retain both and somehow grow their senate lead by two, the first order of business on day damn one must be to kill the filibuster and convince Biden to unpack the court. Even if the mother of all miracles happens, I seriously doubt that will happen. 

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  3. https://truthout.org/articles/chomsky-midterms-could-determine-whether-us-joins-ominous-global-fascist-wave/?amp

    Spoiler

    Q: There are hundreds of candidates across a variety of races who denied the outcome of the 2020 election results. How important is Trump’s role in the midterms, and is it safe to say that GOP leaders have lost complete control of the base?

    A: GOP leaders began to lose control of the base, and even the party management, in 2016, when, to their shock and dismay, they were swept aside by the Trump crusade. By now they have either succumbed, often slavishly, or have been expelled, apart from a few relics who are hanging on in silence. By now it’s Trump’s party. He has managed, skillfully, to maintain a voting base that he is undermining at every turn along with dedicated service to the traditional Republican constituency of extreme wealth and corporate power.

    Denialism is one sign of the breakdown of the social order, and is an element of the undermining of democratic forms. It is rampant among the GOP voting base, and among those running for election, amounting to “A majority of Republican nominees on the ballot this November for the House, Senate and key statewide offices,” according to The Washington Post.

    “The implications will be lasting,” the Postanalysis continues. The deniers will “hold enormous sway over the choice of the nation’s next speaker, who in turn could preside over the House in a future contested presidential election” and the winners of state elections “will hold some measure of power overseeing American elections.” Every careful analysis has shown that the charges of election fraud are utterly groundless, but alienation and desperation are so extreme that facts don’t matter: “the movement arising from Trump’s thwarted plot to overturn the 2020 election is, in many respects, even stronger two years later. Far from repudiating candidates who embrace Trump’s false fraud claims, GOP primary voters have empowered them.”

    “It is a disease that is spreading through our political process, and its implications are very profound,” political scientist Larry Jacobs observed: “This is no longer about Donald Trump. This is about the entire electoral system and what constitutes legitimate elections. All of that is now up in the air.” No exaggeration.

    Again, the phenomenon is not limited to the U.S. Brazil is an extreme example, despite its having perhaps the world’s most efficient and secure voting system. Bolsonaro’s pre-election campaign to discredit the results if he did not win even reached the point of his calling in foreign ambassadors to berate them on the matter. Scholarship has shown that more generally, GOP denialism “bears alarming similarities to authoritarian movements in other countries, which often begin with efforts to delegitimize elections. Many of those promoting the stolen-election narrative, they said, know that it is false and are using it to gain power.”

    Q: There is a huge divide among Democrats over many issues, but there seems to be a consensus among them, at least as reflected on the campaign message, that if the Republicans take power the U.S. could backslide into outright authoritarianism, if not turned into a semi-fascist polity. How likely is this message to resonate with the average American voter, and why do Democrats keep losing the rural vote?

    A: It’s primarily in the rural areas that people “more and more feel like a stranger in my own country.” Understandably. Apart from ongoing demographic and cultural changes, neoliberal globalization has hit these areas hard. Their small industries have collapsed. Farmers have been edged out by subsidized agribusiness. Stores are closing. Young people are leaving. Though in the federal system they are supported by the more educated and prosperous urban society they resent, perception is different. As the Democrats have steadily become a party of affluent professionals and Wall Street donors, they have abandoned rural America along with the working class. In these sectors warnings of democratic decline and rights of minorities have little resonance, if any.

    The consensus on the drift toward a semi-fascist polity may turn out to be accurate, dooming the world to a bitter fate. It has not been inevitable. Many hands have contributed.

    It is not inevitable now, but time is short.

     

  4. 18 hours ago, Captainant said:

    I think this is what @Poe It Up is talking about when he says that the actual facts don't matter and it's what people feel right? Maybe @fattyflattie can update us on his latest findings since he finds credence in the "2020 election was stolen and future elections are fraught" propoganda

    That’s like asking Siskel and Ebert to explain why a given defensive coordinator should go with the 3-4 instead of the 4-3.

    Seriously, you’re asking for takes on politics from two posters who demonstrate consistently that they do not follow it.

  5. 10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    As a recovering conservative, that's not theoretically true.  Conservatives are for measured change among other things.  I have always been attracted to innovative ideas, but to proceed with caution.

    I'll grant you that recent iterations of conservative seem to be against just about any change.

    Right it’s not about conservatism any more. It’s about nationalism with these dunces. 

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    8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Moreover, Republicans offer no solutions, let alone good ones.  About all they can come up with is raising penalties and sentences, and they haven't even seriously tried to do that in a while.

    Their whole modus operandi is:

    Step 1: Say Democrats are bad

    Step 2: Rarely offer specifics as to why

    Step 3: Say “vote for me”

    Step 4: Be asked why you’d make a better candidate

    Step 5: Rinse and repeat

    That’s the hardcore Republican mindset…to a T. And the mindset is that strong. Those two double digit IQ bozos with the “I’d rather be Russian than a Democrat” t shirts? Yeah that’s them in general.

    They “follow” politics at the most superficial of levels, they have no engagement in same sans the dates every 2-4 years that they show up to vote against their own interests, and they can never bring themselves to vote for a Democrat because they’re that wrapped up in their stupid, feeble identity politics. It’s not about policies, it’s not about candidate “qualities,” it’s about “is there a D or an R next to his or her name?” That’s how you get 74 million voters for a career conman who never actually succeeded at anything worthwhile…and they said they voted for him because “he’s a success.” Yeah, he was a success at continuing to fool idiot rubes like them into supporting him when he didn’t give two bits of a shit about them. 

    And as to the same ones that keep coming back here just to get knocked back down like a bowling pin in the same two-bit alley they’ve always been sitting, I have no idea why the rest of you are even bothering. You already know that they are terminally ill with Dunning Kruger. Their capacity to actually learn something that runs contrary to what they feel they want to believe? Yeah, that’s a dubious proposition at best.

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  7. 3 hours ago, elfenix said:

    the people who lead @Cement around by the nose know that he's gullible enough to believe their lies that a woman wakes up one day, damn near 9 months pregnant, decides, "fuck it," and then somehow finds a doc willing to do the deed.  and he is, in fact, that gullible.

    Oh there’s no question. When you see someone saying that the reason “liberals” want(ed) to keep Roe alive is because they’re just itching to see a rash of late/partial abortions, you’re dealing either with a dishonest person or a stupid person because every word of the underlined portion of this sentence is absolutely wrong about absolutely everything that it says and/or implies.

    They know full well that around 90% of all abortions performed in the US are done in the first trimester, damn near all the rest are in the early stages of the second trimester, and the token few (less than one percent) that are late/partial are done as either a medical necessity, or resulting in previous lack of access, in its isolated circumstances.

    If they don’t know it, they’re willfully ignorant. This isn’t secret information, and it’s not new either. A quick Google search turns up a 1984 article from the NIH:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6519237/

    First line: “Late abortion remains a complex and difficult issue in the United States, where about 10 percent of all abortions are performed at 13 or more weeks' gestation. The reasons why women delay having abortions appear to be largely personal, and most are not amenable to public health intervention.”

    So that information is at least 38 years old, so the snowflakes who perpetrate this “38 weeks” crap have no excuse. We know to at least a 90% degree of certainty that they’re just straight up lying through their teeth, and the rest are just dumber than a screen door on a submarine.

    There’s also a tremendous shortage of human decency and morality that would drive someone to say something that hideous and that pitiful. You’d have to be an extremely pathetic and weak individual to produce the kind of useless, feeble, garbled drivel that was posted by Cement.

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  8. 6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Exactly.  That wasn't directed at you.  I fear that if Bolso wants to make a Trump-style shit show out of it, it could be a near thing between the military and the corrupt judiciary.

    That’s exactly my concern. Like I said, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if Lula sits in that chair for a single day come January. 

  9. 37 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    And a much less robust and separate legal system.  As much as you fuckers like to bitch about it, our legal system stopped Trump in the months following the election and are about our only chance at bringing him to heel.

    Our legal system is pretty screwed up but not near as much as the one that allowed a judge to basically steer Lula into a fucking jail cell for nearly two years and ultimately wound up with a high profile position in the Bolsonaro administration. I’m sure we can trust them when they say no quid pro quo was involved…

    Meanwhile notorious criminals like Jaír Bolsonaro run roughshod over that place with impunity. I would like to suggest the reason he’s refusing to concede is because he fears prison like Trump, but no, it’s just because power hungry little shithead’s gonna power hungry little shithead. Prison is very unlikely for him even though every clear thinking person with the slightest modicum of understanding of Brazil’s affairs knows he certainly deserves it.

    But sure let’s just sit back and watch while the “both sides” morons churn out the greatest hits from the “stupid people’s ideas of smart things to say” album.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

    He’s absolutely going to pull some Jan 6 bullshit.

    The concern is that he’s got a much bigger following of the military than Trump did here, so it very well could succeed. The bells are sounding loudly now so the whole world will know that when he does pull that bullshit, it’s precisely and exactly because he’s a fucking loser, a fucking pussy and corrupt as shit. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if Lula actually serves a single day as president.

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  11. 57 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


    I’ll never get this argument. How could anyone not have respect for what that guy has done and is still trying to do as a football player?

    Just more if the same. Motherfuckers drinking the haterade. And if any of them truly believe there’s a more elevated purpose to it than that, they’re the type that enjoy the smell of their own farts.

    57 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

    I have zero issues with him grinding it out until someone else or the league in general tells him to hang it up. Fuck quitting until you have to. I get that’s not for everyone but if that’s how it is with him I can completely respect it.

    Right I mean it’s posh and trendy to call him old and they look at you weird when your reply is “yeah he’s old, and he’s still better than whoever your QB is.”

    The sports media, in their fervid desire to stir up the hysteria, is trending in this direction that suggests we need to start comparing Aaron Rodgers to TB12. Why? Because they did so wonderfully comparing Peyton to him? That’s not a knock on Peyton either but it’s kinda the point too: you’re gonna have a hard enough time saying Rodgers compares to Manning…and some want to commit the egregious breach of etiquette by skipping him over and going straight to Tom? Man, kill that fuckin noise.

     

  12. 1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

    And you miss the whole fucking point.  Allies understand that women should have bodily autonomy.  They may have feelings about abortion, but they keep them to them fucking selves.  Unlike your cunty both sides ass who wants policies that make women second class citizens.  Fuck off and die in a fire.

    I wouldn’t bother. You’re responding to someone with chronic cases of confirmation bias and the Dunning Kruger effect. His whole gimmick on this thread has been project, deflect, and distract. I’ve got him on ignore because well, that’s just what I do when I detect posters with a determination to not understand anything or not accept any information that contradicts what they think they know.

    It’s the same reason I won’t discuss biological evolution with someone from Answers In Genesis. That’s the level of fanaticism you’re dealing with here. It’s not that what he says about this topic (and many others) are laughably, indefensibly, and inexcusably wrong; it’s that he and people like him are bound and determined to stay that way. There are people on this planet who are into that kind of thing, and it’s precisely and exactly because that’s the kind of thing they’re into. 

    That’s not to say that there are 0 people on the other side of this issue worth speaking to and even attempt to persuade. I once did that with a person who previously believed that almost all abortions in the US were performed late term. I merely showed him the data that conclusively shows the exact opposite is true and he’s now pro choice. Those things are possible with reasonable people. They call them reasonable people because their standard on persuasion is “give me a reason to believe you and I will believe you.” By and large, the pro-life movement does not fit this description. 

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  13. 31 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

    I don't watch his show so I don't know what he said, but given Rwanda's long and complicated history, I would be interested in reading a transcript to see how he managed to make an analogy.

    Oh he can’t even half-assed recite the actual history of the Israel-Palestine conflict. What would make anyone with an IQ above room temperature believe he could even locate Rwanda on a map?

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  14. 21 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

    I'm fully convinced Jason Whitlock is the dumbest person alive.

    I mean I’ve yet to read/hear him say something that cannot be filed under “stupid person’s idea of a smart thing to say.”

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    On 10/14/2022 at 8:55 PM, HRSchenker said:

    I turned it off as soon as Herschel said that diabetics need to eat better rather than focus on insulin prices. Type 1 is called insulin DEPENDENT for a reason ya dope.

    Oh it was even worse. He tried tying it to grocery costs as well. Ok so governments the world over have the ability to negotiate drug prices, but even the most lunatic dictatorships would struggle to control grocery costs…and this dumb motherfucker wants to lay that all on the Biden admin.  

    And grocery costs have absolutely nothing to do with “eating better.” Eating healthy on a budget is more than doable. His stupid ass is conflating two things and he cannot for the life of him complete a syllogism.

    Also, have I been asleep for a few decades? When the fuck did this common ignorant slob become an expert dietician? This motherfucker is notorious for having a really weird diet. He says he has one meal a day and is vegetarian except for the occasional indulgence of chicken.

    Ok that works for people with the kind of metabolism he has. Essentially he’s telling people to be born with better genes. But he doesn’t see it that way because, again, the whole ignorance thing.

    It’s the same reason that Ben Agajanian was the world’s greatest kicking coach and Doug Pelfrey was a fucking joke at it: because some people recognize that simply saying “just do it exactly like I did it when I was younger” isn’t actually teaching people anything. If we could all play basketball “exactly like” Michael Jordan, doesn’t anyone think at least some of us would have?

    Telling people to eat better would obviously go a long way in preventing Type II diabetes. But to treat/manage already existing insulin dependent Type I? No, you’re gonna kill someone if you use a microphone to tell such people “just eat like I do,” and for that matter, the same applies to people who already are Type II diabetic. 

  16. 5 hours ago, Js1 said:

    This. Even during the OU game, there was a ton of dooming even though we kept scoring and forcing punts 

    I wish I could say I don’t believe this but the problem is I totally believe this

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