Posts posted by 'stache
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10 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:
IT absolutely was a genius kick, because it made them think. You don't have time to think it that situation. You are taught not to jump on ball before 10 unless you are 100% certain you can fall on it without the ball squirting out (that ball had enough spin on it that it would've been tricky for one or two of them), and especially if it looks like it will not go 10 or will go out of bounds. That ball took a dive right, when the entire trajectory it looked to go OB or not go 10. He may not have practiced it much, but he did enough to know exactly how it would spin. It was a brilliant kick, and it was a colossal screwup by ATL. There's a time to know what you're taught, and a time to make shit happen. They thought about what they had been taught and didn't react quickly enough once things went south.
I'm pretty sure they won't be taught to wait anymore, just get it as soon as you can. With the new rules, it seems that the only possibility of recovery is for it to "pop" out and your hands team should practice clean recoveries.
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11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:How about attending college at emporia state?
He later earned a degree from UNLV. A lot of teenagers are bad at school and have to go the JUCO route. Again, I'm not saying he's a genius, but he seems to have his shit together and valued education enough to earn a degree later in life, and is now coaching in the NFL. Plus he's the Big Cat, love that guy.
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/the-big-cat-earns-his-sheepskin/1891916/
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11 hours ago, markstanco said:
My kiddo was watching cowboy 'errors' tonight and had a great question that I didn't know. Leon Lett.
Maybe I could find it online maybe not. What was his sat score and his wonderic? Because got damn he did some dumb shit but the good outweighed the bad.
He's on the coaching staff so he can't be all that dumb. Not that you have to be a genius to be an NFL assistant coach, but you need some semblance of intelligence. A few high profile brain farts shouldn't define a man's overall intelligence.
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6 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:
None of that feels like a fair and evenhanded "scientific" approach to the problem. If you have emails saying lets hide the data it's not a super big leap to think- maybe they would manipulate the data.
It seems pretty obvious to me that bars/restaurants would be a potential way for this thing to spread, but I'd also say the same of Walmart and HEB/Kroger or anywhere else where I'm inside and a bunch of other people are too. Sometimes, what seems obvious isn't necessarily the case so we rely on data to confirm if our gut feeling suspicions are correct. If people are talking about hiding data they should be run out on a rail. Bad faith actors.
Grocery stores are usually very large with high ceilings, people are moving around mostly, not socializing, and just getting what they need and leaving. In bars and restaurants people are usually in smaller areas, they are there to socialize and stay for an hour or sometimes much longer. Also groceries are essential, draft beer and chicken wings aren’t. The part I don’t get is treating bars and restaurants differently. They should be subject to the same rules and limitations.
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The more I watch it, the more bizarre it is, and might actually have been a brilliant kick and less about luck. It looks like he kicked it in a way that it went sideways 5 yards in and looks almost certain to die or go out of bounds, then with whatever spin he put on it, the ball turns up field to cover the rest of the 5 yards and you can see the moment #81 realizes its going to go 10 yards and dives for it after initially backing away.
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24 minutes ago, DougO said:
On the onside kick thing, it was weird. But it's possible that Atlanta may actually be coaching it that way, perhaps in-advisably. The philosophy may be that they know the kicking team can't touch it before 10 yards, so if it's slow rolling and looking like it may die short of the 10, or kick back and go sideways, it's best to not risk a mishandle by the receiving team which makes it a live ball regardless of the 10 yards.
Not saying that's what a good special teams unit should do, but that's a possibility. You can practice all that stuff every day, but every onsides kick can look a little different, and you may not see everything, plus there's a big difference between live game action and practizing. I haven't heard any explanation from the Falcons, if any was offered
I hadn't even thought of it being an illegal kick if it dies short of 10 yards or goes out of bounds. That at least explains Dan Quinn's explanation that they knew the rule. I really don't think the Falcons thought they couldn't touch it within 10 yards. I found an SI article that sort of explains the kick strategy. The slowness of it makes the "hands" team think on their toes and cause confusion whether they should risk recovering it or hope that it dies short of 10 yards. I personally think you should always put it in your own hands by trying to recover. If it pops out, ok that sucks but shit happens. If you do what they did and hope it doesn't go 10 yards its out of your hands really and makes you look stupid or lacking confidence that you can cleanly handle a fucking football sitting right in front of you. I still think it was really dumb on their part but not as bad as it first looks.
Watching the replays though, didn't the Cowboys screw up too? Aren't they supposed to be blocking the Atlanta guys to at least put them out of position for a recovery or making it more likely that they don't recover it cleanly? They just ran past Atlanta and let them stand over the ball and any other team would likely just fall on it. Just a really weird play all around.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/09/21/mmqb-week-2-dallas-cowboys-onside-kick-nfl-injuries
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4 hours ago, Homercles said:All I want to know is why Bullock was in the game at all. Illingworth was always the backup, a heralded 4* recruit that clearly fit the offense better...once again Gundy loyalty to practice performance was a head shaker and almost cost us a game against a bad Tulsa team. Stupid.
I’ve stood up for him in the past on the qb issue thinking it can’t be that easy, but goddamn it’s a pattern. I couldn’t watch but on the radio they said Illingsworth had like 10 drives all camp because of injury or COVID (they weren’t specific) but he looked good for a true freshman especially if he hasn’t been able to practice much. Again didn’t watch but Bullock sounded like he sucked serious donkey balls. Our own radio guys were pretty much saying he sucked in radio guy phrases.
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Well I was skeptical, but here we go. OSU v. Tulsa tomorrow at 11am. If we were taking it easy in practice, hopefully the Big 12's pathetic effort last weekend against the Sunbelt changed things this last week. Although, Tulsa is probably not nearly as good as Louisiana, and might not be any better than Arky St. or Coastal Carolina. I just hope we play solidly and without any injuries or infections.
tl;dr they are terrible, we should win convincingly
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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:
It's going to be infuriating seeing Ohio State get set up with a patsy schedule and making it into the playoffs despite playing nearly a whole month less than everyone else.
Well they are playing 8 games vs our 10. One of our games is against a G5 patsy. And (no offense) part of our league appears to be G5 caliber. So I don't see a big SOS difference. What will make me mad is if tOSU is given a schedule of all the league's weaker teams. At least we are still playing a full round robin.
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Agreed. Wish we wore the orange at home and white on the road, permanently.