Posts posted by 'stache
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Oklahoma State is again nationally relevant. It's not only that college kids are dumb and many won't take it seriously, but at schools like OSU with a high percentage of students from rural areas, they are the ones whose tiny ass hometowns have not seen outbreaks so they don't think it's that bad, or they are in the category of calling it a political hoax and who get most of their news from chainmail or facebook posts from Greataunt Karen.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/us/osu-sorority-covid-trnd/index.html
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14 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:Seems to me that we should have been encouraging college students to get the virus over the last couple of months. Would have reduced the risk once everyone got back to college towns. IMO.
And a bunch of spots would open up for people on the waitlists for admission. Win-win!
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1 minute ago, SwanderedTalent said:
see, I"m the opposite, I like people who think doctors can be divided into two categories: the ones who are right and agree with me, and the "cooks"
because as with everything else in this country, there can't be a legitimate difference in conclusion after looking at facts, there's just the side that knows the right answer and their opponents, the mendacious and stupid
If there was a 50-50 split, or even 80-20, then there might be reasons to doubt the majority view. The majority is overwhelmingly on the same page, so yeah, the others are cooks, especially the ones on youtube who think alien sperm is medicine.
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50 minutes ago, aggie08 said:I fucking love how, in today's society, people can so easily convince themselves that they're critical, independent thinkers because they choose to go against the grain of, you know, experts when it's convenient to them.
Wait, no I don't.
I like how they also always include "if you would just do your own independent research" meaning the cook "doctor" on youtube who finally said what they want to believe, so everyone else is wrong.
Classes start today in person at OSU. This weekend they reported a sorority house is on lockdown after 23 members tested positive (they would have been in town the last week or two). Video from the weekend circulating of packed bars including a dance club with kids bumping and grinding from wall to wall. I'd say half or more of the student body at OSU comes from small towns and they probably believe the youtube video and memes their great aunt shared on facebook about conspiracy. This shit ain't going to fix itself. A shit ton of campuses are going to have major outbreaks before Game 1 and shit will all get cancelled. If they manage to get a few games in, it will still get shut down with outbreaks on campus.
The one thing I see some credibility to is the argument that players might very well be at lower risk through the regiments of playing sports, including the testing and containment efforts within the locker room. But they are not paid and cannot be contained in an NBA-like bubble. They are students on a campus full of idiot kids. It can only work if the rest of campus can manage to avoid outbreaks. And then you need your opponents to be able to do the same thing. If campuses have outbreaks, I don't see football being feasible, even if the roster is relatively negative on testing at the time of the outbreak. It will only be a matter of time before they catch it. If campus gets locked down and students sent home, I don't think football players should be playing. There is just something wrong with "student athletes" being the only students on campus.
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47 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Honestly, and this sounds crazy, there needs to be some kind of grassroots progressive movement in the GOP once Trump is gone. There are plenty of popular progressive reform ideas that appeal to conservatives. Anti-corruption legislation, anti-trust, wealth tax, decriminalization of weed, cut military spending. No reason there can’t be fearless advocates for these ideas on the right. The current iteration of the GOP must be burned to the ground first tho. Fox News/conservative corporate media will still be the biggest road block sadly.

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24 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:
With no MAC-action or Pac12 after dark, ESPN is going to be gobbling up extra content like crazy. Fox is going to get hit as well. See who you can get to pay for the tier 3 we have leftover and use that to help offset some losses.
I bet they'll pressure the OSU and TCU's of the conference into midweek games and 9:30 kickoffs, for TV and shit.
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12 minutes ago, GRHorn said:
Which members of the media are pushing this? Are our medical experts not good enough? Or Duke’s? The ACC is full of strong academic institutions.
I only read an article about the Duke doctor, but it sounded a lot like "CFB can be played safely if....." My guess is the discussions have focused on the "if" and determined that it would be impossible for the needed conditions to work. First thing that comes to mind is keeping players from parties. Another is massive testing which for some reason is still not efficient or cheap. And all it takes is a few outbreaks and cancelled games for it to become a complete clusterfuck. They can't bubble like NBA, and MLB had a pretty rough start and I suspect will face some more issues. NFL will be the same. And those guys are paid millions and millions of dollars for that risk. It just doesn't jive well when the players are not paid and have already been airing grievances on that front.
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8 minutes ago, ouflak said:Agreed 1000%. I don't have any 'favorite' politicians. Never really have. I think the whole lot are fumbling around clumsily and am bitterly disappointed the lack of coherency. It has literally cost lives. What's bothering me about the media is that they are happy to let China's initial actions slide off into the past, and hop into the blame-you-favorite-even-politician. It doesn't seem to matter the politics of the politician, only the numbers from their respective country/region/state. Heck the < insert politician > may have once, and normally be, a media favorite. But when it comes to the Corona hysteria, they pile on. It's disingenuous, inaccurate, and sometimes astonishingly hypocritical.
Media outlets report when developments are learned about how China acted early in the pandemic. You just choose to ignore it to deflect blame from US politicians you like and cry about MSM. The bottom line is, China can bear responsibility, but it does not exonerate US politicians who failed to do what was needed in their states to contain the virus early on, and are still refusing to acknowledge the spread and continue to support anti-maskers and criticizing schools districts that see the numbers and seeing that having thousands of kids and teachers and staff in a building is not safe. All of those things needed to be addressed regardless of China's responsibility or lack thereof. And it's all relevant to why it looks more and more like we can't have college football, nearly 6 months after the pandemic was declared.
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2 minutes ago, ouflak said:
I'm just not willing to let China off the hook the way the media apparently is determined to. This thread is about a severe consequence of their actions that we, but especially the players and coaches, are having to deal with. And I don't think my post in the 'Almost died' thread was political.
What exactly are your favorite politicians doing to hold China accountable? All I've seen is repeated use of the words "Chinese virus" to deflect blame while continuing to subsidize walmart and its cheap goods 90% of which come from China. Nice deflection with blaming the media "msm ehermaherrd!"
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I see some credibility to the argument that the players might be safer by some measurable degree being on the team with all safety protocols in place, which I hope would mean constant testing and monitoring. But it only works if you can prevent them from doing stupid shit like going to crowded parties. If there was a way to impose serious punishment (scholarship revoked, etc) for anyone putting themselves (and thereby others) at risk, then maybe it could work. But that would only work if you could really monitor the players, maybe pay some campus narcs to keep track of them? In any respect, if these guys really want #wewanttoplay to work, they should be willing to go full social bubble for the entirety of the season, and be willing to have close monitoring to ensure players comply. I really don't think it's feasible, but just a thought experiment on how it might work.
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Don't public universities have sovereign immunity from these suits? Isn't that why aggy was never held legally responsible for the dead bonfire kids, and why Tech never paid Leach his severance? Would the covid liability waiver that Congress will inevitably pass not going to protect public universities?




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