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Posts posted by honolulu horn
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1 minute ago, Wally Pryor said:
And that's totally fair. As long as there is give and take in the matter we are probably all onboard.
As it, it just feels like their is "take" in the country. Therein lies part of the problem.
Well, that's a different topic on which we'll probably disagree. Black athletes have been "giving" a lot for the past few decades; while some have been "taking," the balance sheet undeniably tips in the direction of the university. All of that history is certainly a part of what's happening on campus now. But hoping that on the Eyes issue (and the other demands listed), good conversation and negotiations can occur.
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Just now, Wally Pryor said:
Define "large group".
We'll go from there.
I can't. I know that makes it really hard. That's why I said we try. We should listen, we should understand, we should respond. That goes for interactions with anyone with whom we disagree -- individuals and groups, large or small.
I know that in this instance, I am definitely not part of the group that has proposed this. So my role is to listen, understand, and respond.
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1 minute ago, Red Five said:
Tough, but fair.
Plot twist!
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Culture changes with time. We try to adapt and get better, and we wrestle with mistakes from the past. I love that the students are debating this. I also acknowledge that even though the song doesn't seem racist or hurtful to me (a white dude who's done fine in this system), it isn't really my call to make. If a large group of people believe that the song is racist or hurtful, I sorta feel like it's their call.
Dammit, Reynolds Woodcock beat me to it. And said it better.
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58 minutes ago, Mason Ramsey said:
This only raises more questions.
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3 hours ago, SmokeyTheBear said:
Damn. I thought if he died, our economy would improve. That's how all this works, right?
No, Fox News says the economy improves only when black people die.
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51 minutes ago, davidg said:
Must be a Hyperdyne Systems model 341-B synthetic technician.
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18 minutes ago, Nivek said:
I believe the punchline was “you fuck one goat....”-
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2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:
Do you think black lives matter? Simple question. Do they matter?
If you answer yes, then you are an ally to the idea. If you answer no then I hate to break it to you, but you actually are a racist (with the only exception being the unlikely yet possible scenario where you don't think any lives matter). So please explain where the logic that if you don't believe black lives matter then you're a racist breaks down because I'd love to hear this.
I can't imagine living such a privileged life and yet feeling so put upon all the time when some group I'm not a member of tries to improve their lot in life. What a cowardly and mentally weak mindset.
This is one of the best posts I've seen on this topic in a long time.
Your last sentence reminds me of some of my extended relatives who characterize themselves as the real victims. These are all middle class, white, Christian, rural conservatives who have done nothing but benefit from the inequality in this country and have never once had any setbacks due to advances made by minority groups. They've literally lived their lives completely sheltered by this bubble in which people of color etc have had no meaningful impact on their lives whatsoever. And yet they are the loudest to scream about how victimized and put upon they are by movements such as BLM. It's so hard to understand. But then again, at least one has told me "Well I guess I'm just racist," which is probably the right answer.
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8 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:
Gotta hand it to her...
That's a peach, hon!
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17 hours ago, futureman said:

Point taken.
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Apex, take it somewhere else. This is a football thread, not a "don't be a pussy, my racist jokes are actually harmless and hilarious" thread.
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One would think that one of the issues that Trump's base would really find abhorrent is the use of unidentified "military" personnel being set loose to keep American people in order. At least police officers wear badges and can be identified. The people that Trump and Barr are setting loose have no idea, no designations, nothing. Well, except for military-grade assault weapons. It's essentially the secret police. Seems like that would be a hard thing for the "freedom! rights! no government control!" believers to swallow.
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Not a good look for FSU, but fuck them sideways anyway.
I am all for players taking a stand for change. There's a lot of shit that needs fixing in this country, and many of these young players have seen it firsthand from the day they were born. If they can stand by their convictions and make a difference, I support them 100%. I hope they're able to do this collaboratively and constructively, however, and not destructively.
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17 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:
Tim Scott: I've "already said too much" ???? What the FUCK man ... where is your dignity.
He's losing his religion.
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Yeah it's great. I love the two girls towards the middle of the video. The blonde passes out, wakes up and screams "Holy fuck! I'm gonna shit my pants!" and then passes out again.
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15 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:
Exactly. I don’t know how Trump can credibly sell voters on the idea he can fix this, when it all went to shit on his watch
"I alone can fix this."
[country is flushed down the toilet with virus, depression, unemployment, and cities burning in protest]
"I take no responsibility."
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5 hours ago, bad_teammate said:
A series of photo-ops with more competent people writing the words? I'm down for 4 years of that.
This is what I was suggesting when saying Biden needs to get out of the basement. A few of these sorts of photo-ops and targeted interviews / posts will make a lot of people remember what it's like to have some humanity in the White House, which will help him in the polls and voting boxes.
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1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:
I listened to an hour and half of PE today. Chuck D is such a prophet (of rage), but damn it's tough to listen to them rapping about the exact same shit 30 years ago.
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52 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:
I’m old. Music and pop culture from 15-25 will be forever imprinted in your brain as relevant and cool.
I’d argue kid rock was cooler than those other two ever dreamed of being, but with the trail of trim chachi has plowed through maybe I’m wrong.

This is the cool one?
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5 hours ago, henrygandorf said:
all of this.
2020 is a monster election with the census and the potential of sinking the trump ship that so many terrible republicans have tethered themselves to. if done right, this could proper fuck the gop for 12-16 years. rarely does that type of opportunity come along.
Don't forget SCOTUS appointments
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It's time for Biden to get out of the basement and start holding some pressers, interviews, etc. We need to see an alternative in action.
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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:
So let me see if I am understanding.
In the midst of 1) a pandemic 2) rioting after a white police officer murdered a black man in Minneapolis with whom he'd apparently worked for 17 years 3) and economic collapse and 4) social media controversy after Twitter buried Donald Trump’s tweet last night
The president of the United States held a press conference about .... China? And then didn't take any questions but retreated into his sheltered cocoon?
You forgot that he took the US out of the WHO today as well. Amazing that pulling out of the world's leading global health organization doesn't even move the needle, much less pin it. Welcome to the end times.
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2 hours ago, Wanker Bob said:
Where are all the gun toting white supremacist "open up" protestors at now? Why aren't they still out there because their favorite bar can only have 25 Percent capacity? I thought they wanted confrontation?
Exactly. Whenever those idiot gun toting trumpers says they are ready for a war, I think of scenes like this and realize they have no chance. They run and hide like cowards whenever it gets real. All hat and no cattle, as they say.


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