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On 4/7/2025 at 11:50 AM, Rex Kramer said:
Other kids absolutely do not hang out in tents. I’ve been to meets where I walk by and speak with my daughter. This past meet, run against several Frisco schools on the same day of this cowardly murder, I was asked to leave the side of the field where the athletes and their tents are. That parents weren’t allowed over there. I suspect the answer to your second statement is largely venue dependent.Â
I’m not calling you a liar, but athletes absolutely do not hang out under the others’ tents. The statement is preposterous.Â
Other kids do go and hang out in tents of other schools which is exactly why you have a watcher in the first place. My daughter's club volleyball teammates also run track at other schools. They will go look for each other and hang.
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13 hours ago, BurntEyes said:
The part that makes me madly skeptical of any defense is the fact the he brought a knife to a foot fight.Â
Granted, it was ages ago, but never at any point during my HS sports life did I consider bringing a knife to any of my sporting events, and people got shot at some of the sporting events I attended. (Non that I played in)
That's the major clue that had me on a super heavy murder lean from the start. Add to it he was in the victims tent, and it just doesn't look good.
I've not heard the notes you pointed out about witness statements, but in fairness, I've not dug in any depth for details either.
When I was in middle school one random day they brought all the boys into the auditorium. They had officials at each of the exits. They told us if we came down and put any weapons on the table there would be no charges. However, If we got up and tried to leave with anything we would be in trouble. Kids were setting down all manner of weapons. I read the next day that close to 300 were confiscated. True story. That was a middle school. Color me not surprised a 17 year old has a weapon.
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50 minutes ago, seven said:
Well Gen x is trump's highest voting demographic, so maybe it's the boomers who don't want to move in with their asshole maga kids?Â
Hate to break it to you Tom but Gen X are grandparents. We are the Boomers now.
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8 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:
Maybe instead of getting rid of the Department of Education we get rid of the Secretary of Education.Â
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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:
Just a thought maybe we could vote D consistently and not let the GOP sucker us constantly with moral panics and tax cuts they never pay for.
We could vote D every cycle! All we have to do is get rid of all the blacks, gays, and brown folks.
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30 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:
So since they voted for Trump, you are saying Trump is a smart leader who was able to teach them. Â Yes?
Lol. That's not my quote. Weird
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4 hours ago, UTEE97 said:
Is your position that no matter what the dems did they could not win the election because of stupid voters? This is where I disagree. There is and will always be uneducated, stupid and biased voters. A smart leader is able to overcome it. Muslim voters felt like they were not being heard, and they wanted to punish the incumbent. That's usually the natural outcome when a demography feels like they are not being heard.
The problem going forward is going to be how dems can relate to people who feel like they are not being heard. Do you accept it as inevitable and blame the "stupid' or do you craft a strategy to overcome it? We lost a few important supporters like Musk and Ackman with a huge following during the last election. These people are not stupid. They just formed an alliance that they thought would benefit them more. Ackman was pleading Biden to drop out for months and then he switched sides. To ignore the mistakes as someone else's problem is the recipe for failure again.
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Old people vote UTEE. Young people dont. Fear mongering works with the olds. The Dems dont really have anything they can fear monger on. So no, messaging wasnt going to work. Dems have only won when we got tired of the Rs fucking shit up.
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2 hours ago, UpperWestside said:Here is the difference. Our conversation was centered on friends of his that live in a Scandinavian country. They were explaining why socialized health care was easier to implement after World War II. It was the government telling their citizens we can help you. Most everything was in disarray so they accepted what the government asked of them. Collectively their way of thinking became to trust the government to make good decisions on behalf of the population. That, to me, is an example of how society can function when people all share in each other’s collective well-being.
Here you can’t tell an entire population what would be best for them because you say socialism and you hear the Nazi comparison come out from 80 million people. That leads to the less educated/F you pay me types that will vote for an orange clown instead of making the choice that would help more of the population. That’s ’Merica at its most selfish. We’re kinda stuck right there. If there is one thing I have learned in my travels across this country in the places I have lived it is that we just refuse to agree on a society that benefits all of us. The inherent selfishness that permeates America is antithetical to how a modern society needs to be able to get along on basic things.
No-It's easy to pitch socialized healthcare when everyone in the population looks the same and a good chunk of the population feels like the others should be excluded from any benefits. THAT's the problem with America. You see NO white people not accepting benefits because they don't want them. They just don't want the browns getting them.
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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:
"Before the president makes a big mistake based on bad math."
Dude. Who in the FUCK do you think you're talking about? "Big mistakes" and "bad math" are the core of his very being.
Nope, you fuckers hated uppity minorities and queers SO MUCH - about shit that really didn't even affect you, except you couldn't use slurs in the workplace - that you had to vote for Trump. And we hear talk of "kitchen table issues," which is things like prices, and income levels, and educational availability, and the ability to retire without having to eat cat food. NONE OF THOSE FUCKING MATTERED, AT ALL. IT WAS A LIE.
And now, those people who SAID those things mattered ("muh price of eggs!") aren't going to have kitchen tables anymore, much less stuff to put on them.Â
God we are so fucking dumbstupididioticmoronicgalacticallyfuckingstupid.
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3 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:You know, I don't know what everyone else on this board thinks, but I am starting to think you aren't much of an optimist. Â
Him? I fully believe we aren't going to have an election in 28, and are in the beginnings of full blown Nazi Germany.
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2 hours ago, UTEE97 said:
You wonder why this country is so divided. Nobody listens or tries to understand where people are coming from, so the root cause never gets addressed.
Bro we all came from somewhere. Hang around. This board is probably the smartest board on The Surl and will help you stay locked in on the things happening in the world that you may have missed.
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2 hours ago, UTEE97 said:Too many fucking morons on this board. I now understand why people dislike this board so much. Enjoy your eco chamber. I am out.
Although I don't agree with what you said, I would never neg you for it as you aren't here trolling or being malicious. Don't let one disliked opinion push you away.
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39 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:While I don't disagree with who to blame, I think you need to be strategic. What is right may not win you the election. Counting on people in rural America to not be racist or sexist is not a winning strategy. Trump won because he told those voters what they wanted to hear. You have to know your audience and can't always expect them to behave rationally.
I'm not trying to be an asshole but this post is dumb. You can attach any white face you want to the Dems. As long as they also come with Black, Trans, and blue haired, nose ring wearing people a large portion of this country isn't buying it. The problem is old people vote, and old people always feel like they don't recognize the country anymore. This has been the case for generation after generation. So conservative politicians know all they have to do is fear monger the olds and they will vote away their lives to keep their grandson Chris from becoming Chrissy, and their granddaughter Sara from dating Tyrone.
This is why for a long time the Dems have been moving further and further right. The only thing that has ever saved the Dems is Republican recessions. Every time we get one of those the country is JUST fed up enough to vote for the Dems. Then after a Democrat fixes the economy it's back to old people worrying that Juan is coming for them. The only long term change for this cycle of abuse is for a Republican to hurt the system so bad that we don't immediately forget about it. Think 1930's Germany. That's the only way to hit the reset button.
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2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:
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The Democratic Party hasn't leaned left in a very long time, but congratulations on eating the bullshit you've been shoveled.Â
Yeah, in our lifetimes the Dems have moved further right.
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57 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:
Tariffs which Congress can revoke, so turnip isn’t the only target; and violence opens the door to martial law.
I am onboard with a strike. These protests might spark such an event. Confidence, as we have been reminded, is contagious.
Can't argue that logic!
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Just now, Thatguy said:
No offense taken Imma. I just don't believe that anything will happen with this dude in office. Trump had to have a "get off the field" guy to keep him from giving orders to shoot protestors. He is deporting college kids that peacefully protest, and holding their Uni's hostage financially. Same dude was laughing about Musk firing protestors at Tesla. The only thing that will get through will be tearing the motherfucker up.
We ARE talking about a dude who just levied tarriffs on the entire world.
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2 minutes ago, immamac said:
Not trying to be a dick, but that is a totally different thing than this. If every black person in the united states protested or did a strike it was only 11% in 1960s and its under 15% still today.Â
If half the population protests or strikes then shit will happen real quick.Â
No offense taken Imma. I just don't believe that anything will happen with this dude in office. Trump had to have a "get off the field" guy to keep him from giving orders to shoot protestors. He is deporting college kids that peacefully protest, and holding their Uni's hostage financially. Same dude was laughing about Musk firing protestors at Tesla. The only thing that will get through will be tearing the motherfucker up.
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Just now, immamac said:Not sure I agree with violence, but protests need to actually be disruptive and cause something. They can't just be a way to get your feelings outÂ
I don't want violence but as a black person we never got anything accomplished unless there was violence by us or against us.
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25 minutes ago, immamac said:
Yeah I'm not sure what this even does. Protests need to be peaceful but completely disruptive to something to work. Everyone going out and being pissed off that things aren't going well isn't gonna do shit but make people feel like they did something.Â
These protests should happen any time doge tries to enter a building or when they try to close a park etc.Â
Protests need to be violent on one side or the other or they get ignored. History has shown this.
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9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:
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Under Trump, all roads lead to Fuck It Avenue in the middle of Shitville.
I've been to Shitville. You take Hershey Highway to get there and cut through the tunnel called the Lord's Procedure. After that the road widens and it's easy sailing from there. You should hit up NowThis if you go. Heard he moved there awhile back.
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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:
Dave Chappelle did this bit where he talks about how HRC hit him with the "This rich man doesn't pay taxes!" to which Trump replied, "That makes me smart. If you want me to pay the tax then change the code. But you won't do that, because your friends and your donors take advantage of the same tax laws that I do."
When the power brokers and rich, from all walks and politics, are aligned on the green idol, it hurts the middle class from real change. The only thing the rich will understand is disruption and/or blood.
donation caps and if you are a politician you are not allowed to invest in the market. The only way to get real change and politicians who work for the people.
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1 hour ago, YChang said:
What's your point of view on why this and other right of center economist focus on tax rates?Â
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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:They focus on rates to confuse the rubes.
This right here. They know the uneducated only understand the basics about taxes. So they can simply leave out the whole section about tax loopholes and the unwashed will be none the wiser. It's the same as talking about tariffs. You say, "we are gonna put a tax on goods from China", and the unwashed cheer. You don't need to tell them who picks up the tab. Once you've sold them on "the rich pay all the taxes" then you can convince them that "we need to give them a tax cut and all those savings will trickle down". No need to explain about stock buybacks because rubes.
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49 minutes ago, 27-25 said:
I listened to that episode and at one point she was discussing the story about Warren Buffet paying more in taxes (by percentage points) than his secretary. I think the economist misspoke, or misunderstood, something about the comparison. I think the core of the argument is taxes on salary for the middle class (the secretary) is higher than taxes on dividends or long term capital gains for the rich (Warren). But this distinction was not addressed and she dismissed the anecdote. I became less enthused about the episode after that.
And this is the stupidity of the argument. Our wealthy don't take income and are allowed to live off of super low interest rate loans against their stock shares, which they don't pay taxes on either. So they go years without paying taxes which aren't factored into the discussion on purpose to twist the story in their favor. I tire of this same old shit. I have these discussions irl and you would be surprised how many people don't understand it but just regurgitate what they heard from some right wing talking head.
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