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  1. 3 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

    You’re comparing Greg ward to Vince young.  

    I'm saying that Houston already discovered Greg Ward, put him in play, and went 6 and 2 down the stretch before Tom Herman got there. The fact that you didn't know that is why you were so impressed with Tom Herman at UH. Herman had a good 1st year and then when teams had some tape on him the next year he came back to earth but you guys had already bought your tix to the shit show.

  2. 1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

    OK, that's a bit disingenous.  He was the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year and a 2-time Pro Bowl selection.  Jeff Fisher did him no favors.

    That was the point. The NFL doesn't believe in people for many dumb reasons that are out of control of the player and either never draft them or do them wrong when they do. Doesn't mean the player wasn't good.

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  3. Just now, Im_smarter_then_you said:

    Maybe the receivers were too fast?   

    Where is Greg ward now?

    Just because a QB didn't make it to the league doesn't mean he wasn't good in college. Greg Ward was like 5'10 180. He was never going to be an NFL guy. You might remember another QB that didn't work out in the NFL but was great in college. His name was Vincent Paul Young Jr.

  4. 7 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

    Yes.  But a lot of those were Charlie apologists 

    It wasn't just about Charlie brother. Some people were concerned with the lack of a resume. Dude literally stumbled into Greg Ward. The year before he arrived the previous coach started winning at the end of the season when he moved Ward from receiver to QB. Tom just walked right into that. No one knew if he could recruit, or how he would be without a do it all athlete at QB. Turns out those things were cause for concern.

  5. 5 hours ago, sheeeit said:

    Kudos for digging in I guess.  But you still keep missing the main factor.  All the witnesses say Anthony said something to the effect of "touch me and see what happens or punch/hit me and see what happens".  Legally you can not go up to someone or respond to a confrontation knowing you have a knife and escalate the situation in any way.  When Anthony challenged Metcalf, regardless of what Metcalf did first, his self defense claims go out the window.  You really seem to not like that but it is the law.

    Further, Anthony's statements to the cops are "he put his hands on me".  Not 2 guys jumping him or tackling him or he punched me or tackled me or some mysterious group surrounding him ready to beat him.  Not a single witness said anything about a group of people involved.  He, singular, put his hands on me is what he said.

    Lastly, the ONLY way your ridiculous scenario involving multiple people "standing against" him could be possible would involve multiple people in the middle of the day at a track meet in the bleachers which are visible to everyone at the track meet (parents/coaches/fans/participants) that surrounded Anthony to a point that he could not escape and then attacked him and he used a knife to defend himself.  By all accounts, Anthony could have just left the tent when asked to do so.   He chose to stay and confront Metcalf and had a knife that he brought out and used.  

    My guess, based on what we know so far, is he will plead to manslaughter and get 7-10 years.  I think that would be pretty fair. 

    Man, this must be your first time around black people. When black people say "he put his hands on me", they don't mean it in the literal sense. It means the person did something to them physically. Let me point you to the Urban Dictionary

     

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    You guys are having trouble imagining any different scenario than what you have in your head. In your scenario of events Metcalf told him to leave and then Anthony told him to touch him and see what happens. Then Metcalf "touches" him and Anthony just wildly stabs him with a knife. However, what if Anthony goes over to the tent to hang out with his friend, whoever EP is in the police report. The Metcalf boys return from the other tent that the dude on youtube said they were in to find this dude in their tent. Metcalf confronts the kid, barking orders at him. They go back and forth, and Metcalf slaps his phone out of his hands. Kids pull out their phones. Metcalf is shoving him or hitting him, all while Anthony is issuing warnings. I am sure Metcalf is saying a few things too, like making threats of his own right? Metcalf might have a couple teammates standing up behind him and then snatches this kid up one final time and Anthony stabs him.

    Again, this isn't about digging in. This is what generally happens between teenage boys. All of us here were teenage boys and are pretty familiar with how things escalate in these situations. Regardless of how this case turns out from a legal standpoint, there is no way this was a quick 30 second ordeal and drew the eyes of 30 witnesses and their phones. A bunch of shit happened between the initial "get out" and the stabbing.

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  6. 2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

    What the hell is the point of any of this? We are going to reduce the tariffs to some unknown level for unknown reasons at some unknown time? We are going to be nice in our negotiations with China to achieve some unknown objective?

    I fail to see how we get a good deal for the US while being nice to China in negotiations. I fail to see how reducing the tariffs to some other random value does anything besides encourage everybody to just stop all economic activity and wait around to see what this new value is going to be. And why would we want that to happen?

    I mean I know everything is being run by idiots for nonsensical reasons but it still boggles the mind.

    This is a tale as old as time. A bully was swinging his dick around at school and all the kids were afraid of him, just giving up their lunch money. The bully strolled up to the weird kid at the back of the class and said, "Give me your lunch money!". The kid took his headphones off and said, "huh?". The bully repeated himself. The kid looked at him and just put his headphones back on. The class' eyes were shifting back and forth between the two. The bully threatened to kick his ass after school, getting louder and louder. The kid takes his headphones off and stands up. The bully, seeing this kid towering over him, begins to realize maybe he picked on the wrong kid. Just then the kid lifts the bully up from under the arm pits and sticks him, feet dangling, against the wall. "I will kick your ass right now!", he says, and sets him back down. The bully, humiliated, walks back to his seat with all the kids snickering.

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  7. 1 hour ago, sheeeit said:

    You are missing the point.  Let's assume that most of what you said is true- even though there is a police report where they interviewed many of the 30 or so people that watched the incident and every one of them basically says the same thing- that Metcalf approached Anthony and told him to leave the tent area, that then Anthony dug in his bag and retrieved something- then Anthony told Metcalf to "touch me or hit me and see what happens" and then Metcalf pushed him and then Anthony stabbed him.- and the knife was still in the bleachers when police arrived and they taped it to the bleachers and photographed it.  So lets just assume all of the witnesses are lying and colluding to frame Anthony and that Metcalf somehow did everything you said, it still doesn't matter.  Even in your crazy scenario you admit that Anthony "warned" Metcalf not to touch him.  To claim self defense you can not, in any way, escalate the situation or act as an aggressor and then stab someone when you had the ability to leave the scene without any harm to anyone.  Thats it.

    I do not want the kid convicted of murder.  I think he was young and dumb and made a fatal mistake.  But he is going to prison.  The only thing now is for how long.  I hope they reach a plea agreement where he gets out in time to have a life.

    I am looking at the police report right now.

    Officer Fischer says he took the boys in the locker room. He says that at that time Hunter and the EP kid, who seemed to be friends with Anthony, were both two hysterical to talk. Looks like a 3rd boy spoke and said this-

     

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    then officer Wetzel says a witness told him this-

     

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    Now obviously these two interviews are inconsistent. One paints a picture that Austin pushed him then Anthony had time to reach around in his bag and then stabbed Austin and ran. The second one paints a scenario where Austin did something to him AND THEN Anthony pulled a knife from his bag as Austin grabbed him and stabbed him. Both of these, plus what Hunter said, are the kindest versions of what happened. The parent on youtube who said both boys jumped on him. Here is what we do know. The situation went on long enough for kids to pull out their phones and start recording. That tells us more than what we know "went on" happened, because for that many witnesses to see, and that many phones to be confiscated, it clearly was more than what was said. A situation has to be going on for quite awhile, with a lot of shouting and tussling, for that many kids to take notice. Also, the cameras don't really come out until kids think its going to be a fight and that is usually once someone does something to another kid. It is also highly unlikely that while Austin and Karmelo were squaring off all the other boys were "sitting minding their own business". So if a video shows one kid standing against what looks to be more than one person then we are talking about an entirely different LOOKING scenario. So it really just depends on what the video shows. I am clearly in the "lets wait for the facts" crowd on this one.

     

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  8. 12 hours ago, sheeeit said:


     

    this is all that matters from a legal standpoint.  All.  Karmelo had time and free will to go and retrieve a knife from his backpack.   He absolutely could have left at that point.  Unarguable.  But he retrieved a weapon and someone died.   Hopefully he can plead to 20 or so years.   But he is going in.  And should.  

    You guys are making a lot of absolutes without knowing the full story. Reading the statements it sounds like he was told to leave and said no. Then it seems like someone put their hands on him. He warned them. Someone put their hands on him again. He warned them again. Then someone attacked him and he stabbed them. Depending on what that attack looks like on video matters to what happens. I heard rumors of him ending up on his back with Metcalf on top of him which I don't know if it is true or not, but would go a long way toward explaining how a slight guy like that could get a knife that deep in someone in a single blow. 215lbs on top of a knife will help that happen.

    If video comes out and its Metcalf smacking a phone out of his hand. Getting warned. Shoving him and getting warned again. Then Metcalf tackling him over the bleachers, and especially if more than one person was involved, could change the narrative around a murder charge. The thing that I am paying attention to is we have not heard any version of this story that didn't have Austin getting physical with Anthony. Not even the most favorable versions.

  9. On 4/21/2025 at 3:12 PM, Valmy77 said:

    The issue is that Trump and his regime treat all foreign countries with complete contempt and disrespect. The Chinese will not put up with being disrespected, especially not from a Western county. Dude is bringing up a hundred years of Chinese rage over how they were treated by the Western Powers.

    Art of the Deal I guess. Do everything to make it personal with your negotiating partner, so they make it their prime focus to take you down.

    Yeah, things could've gone Trump's way but they had to do the one thing the Chinese will not tolerate and that's being treated like second class humans. Those are some old wounds for them and Vance calling them peasants just drove the stake home. It's like they learned nothing from the Canada debacle.

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  10. 18 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

    At least Metcalf told "Protect White Americans" and their 4 followers to get fucked.  Now if we could just get "Next Generation Action Network" to exit stage left. 

    Little different scenario chief. Kid has been called a thug, gangster, and been painted as a kid with no father is his life. Family is being threatened. You may not agree with the organization that stepped in but there is no way that family could've handled this on their own.

  11. 2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

     

    THIS.

    I grew up in a family where the head of the house cooked the steaks well done. I was not a rebellious teen by any stretch of the imagination but damn if I didn't stage a meat coup over insisting that steak should never be cooked that long.

    Well you know how we cooked our steaks............

  12. 23 hours ago, GenXer said:

    I can confirm this. Grew up in oklahoma. 9th grade oklahoma history never taught:

    1. Tulsa race massacre 

    2. cherokee tribe winning the supreme court case against the united states of america, and subsequently president andrew jackson sending the military to force the cherokee tribe to walk to oklahoma

    3. cherokee tribe funding and sending a ship of food to ireland as part of a humanitarian aid during the potato famine. I learned of this at the charleston navy yard national park in boston.

    Things we did learn

    1. 1889 land rush to get more people of european descent into oklahoma

    2. five civilized tribes. Cherokee, choctaw, chickasaw, creek, seminole. I can still name them from memory. Presumably, all the other tribes are uncivilized.

    My viewpoint likely makes me woke. So be it. 

     

     

    10 hours ago, mchookem said:

    don't forget the Osage murders and stealing their fortunes (Killers of the Flower Moon). i read that book during covid and literally had a reaction of 'how the hell have i never heard about this?!?'

     

    4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

    Same, and we learned about the oil boom and people like the Phillips brothers but not about the allotment theft that @mchookem mentions.

    I learned through my grandmother. Schools didn't mention shit. Back then old black folks held the community down. They made sure you knew where you came from.

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  13. 14 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    As soon as? Lulz. Good one. But that’s inaccurate. Cannabis has never been a drug exclusively or predominantly used by minorities. That claim was propaganda promoted by special interests advocating prohibition back in the 30’s. That included changing the spelling of marihuana to marijuana in order to create an association with those lazy Mexicans. It’s true that the penalties for use are more severe for black and brown people. But there’s no evidence that they’ve ever used more than white people.

    Cannabis use became much more widespread in the 50’s and 60’s so even if accurate, the “as soon as” assertion would be laughable because decriminalization/legalization is a recent development. But the most severe prohibitive measures were enacted by Nixon who made it a Schedule I drug alongside heroin in 1970. That was in retaliation against protesters of the Vietnam War who were predominantly young and white. The aim was to associate pot use with the hippies and use it as a weapon against the antiwar movement. Heroin was associated with the black community and used as cover to investigate, arrest, and jail their leaders.

    There is racism in our drug laws. The best example is probably the 100-to-1 disparity in the penalty for trafficking crack vs. powder cocaine where 5g of crack got you 5 years while it took 500g of powder cocaine to get the same sentence.

    Not sure how old you are but drugs are trendy. There was a solid generation of well-to-do white kids who were spending their time on lines rather than smoking weed. Which is exactly why there was a 100 to 1 law at that time.  If the government was making harsh laws for a particular drug best believe it was because mainstream white folks weren't going to be affected.

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  14. 3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

    Dude....it's that black president that fucking broke this country.  So, yeah, you're spot-on.  Seriously, white America can't stop saying "what are you bitching about, you even got a black president!"....when electing that black president is what COMPLETELY broke their fucking brains.  Sure, the "it all started" moment for this modern christo-fascist racist movement was well before then, but 2008 was the moment of irrevocable acceleration.  Electing a black man was a bridge too far, and they were and are willing to destroy this fucking country just to make sure that nothing like that EVER happens again.  It's literally what they are doing as we speak.

    Naw bro it was the tan suit.

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