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  1. 2 hours ago, DaysOff said:

    Boeing departed from engineering leadership after the McDonnell Douglas merger. The company became Boeing in name only.

    pretty sure someone at some point got their shareholder value though

    long as that shareholder value is protected in the short term, fuck long term business success

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  2. 12 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

    Nope. That is absolutely not the discussion/argument.

    The ONLY point being debated is whether “letting them all in” is a good idea or not. Hayden has a post earlier that says that exactly. Hobbes then follows up with “what’s wrong with that?”  That’s the argument. 

    yes. I'm suggesting that we look at this issue with solution oriented goals, not those made up as barriers just because. 

    I'm suggesting we merely come from a perspective of humanity and sympathy not hard hearts. I'm simply asking what if we decided to do the good thing and begin with the baseline assumption that these hordes are actually human beings seeking a better life. can we help them find that? 

    why don't we? 

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  3. 3 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

    Dak made a good play, but how the fuck that LB missed him is beyond me. Dak took a half a step forward, bent over and the LB blew past him

    yeah that was like a "oops I'm supposed to be throwing the game" miss

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  4. 6 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

    Maybe you should review the posts a little more closely. That is exactly what I’ve proposed. It’s the other posters who’ve said let everyone in that shows up, with no rejection of those who try to enter illegally. If you simply let millions in illegally, what do you think happens next? When the next wave of 5-50 million people sitting in central and South America see what happened, what do you think they are going to do? 

    someone needs to review posts more closely that's for sure. 

    we probably aren't too far off. I'm saying take these supposed millions, these hordes of...people?; anyways let's suppose they are indeed human people, and let's let them in. 

    sure we might need to ask some questions, check for guns or disease or whatever, you know create a process by which these millions of hordes can gain entry into our nation with super low unemployment and a humming economy? we can do that about our laws and processes right? they are OUR processes that WE create amd WE enforce right?

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  5. 3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

    For the reasons I already listed in that paragraph. If you think a flood of 10’s of millions of illegal immigrants pouring across the border with no stoppage is not an obviously bad idea, then I don’t know what else to tell you. 

    Your views are truly nonsense. To believe that 10’s of millions of illegal aliens pouring across the border is a good idea is simply crazy and not worth wasting any more time discussing it with you. 

    I'm not saying we should have "illegal aliens pouring across the border. "

    what I'm presupposing is that... maybe we make them legal? 

  6. 5 hours ago, Foosters said:

    Unchecked flow of immigrants? Into New York City? Impossible. Such a thing could never happen.

    right? we could disperse 10 million immigrants into hundreds of thousands of communities throughout the us and nobody would even notice. 

    1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

    The immigration system in the US, and every other country, is based upon a set of processes and procedures for gaining entry lawfully and orderly. If you let them all in, as you suggest, not only do you destroy that system, you encourage a flood of millions upon millions of people to try and cross illegally. The system is already at the breaking point in handling the volume. An unlimited volume of immigrants is not a great idea.  I don’t understand why you would advocate for this. It seems like a horrifically bad idea. 

    whose system is it? 

    54 minutes ago, Boss Hogg said:

    This isn’t pre-income tax, pre-welfare state like during Ellis Island’s heyday. 
     

    Because there’s laws involved with entering any country. Also, the levels of illegal immigration currently happening are straining finances and social services of multiple parts of the country. But besides that, great idea. 
     

    I’m curious how all the shitheads will be vetted. Also, what’s the percentage breakdown of male vs female etc? In Europe it’s overwhelmingly young males. Is that the best makeup for a society taking all these people in?
     

    As far as the tax base goes, low educated/skilled illegal immigrants are a net negative fiscally. 
     

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    https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/rector_testimony_913.pdf

     

    who makes those laws? 

    we could do this if we really wanted to. instead people feel better bitching that "nobody wants to work anymore" because...? I do not know. evidently we have "record numbers" of people who want to work but i guess no, because...?

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  7. On 12/21/2023 at 8:29 PM, Dbeasy said:

    Denying there is a problem is why elections are lost. See how that strategy works out. 

     

    On 12/21/2023 at 8:31 PM, InkaUtexas said:

    No one is denying there is a problem on this thread.

     

    On 12/21/2023 at 8:41 PM, Boss Hogg said:

    Txputt basically was. 

    hell, i am too.

    i have a crazy fucking idea. stick with me here because it's real fucking complicated. 

    what if we just let them in?

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  8. 5 hours ago, nbmishoid said:

    Especially not that.

    yeah pretty much the opposite. find the way to fuck over every one else as much as possible for more. 

    that's it. that's the ethos. 

    pretend your employees matter. throw pizza parties. do whatever. but when that big ugly quarterly pr annual number comes, better juice it any way possible and fuck the long term business metrics because I'm making so much in one year as an executive that i could live 5 lifetimes in 5 years but only if that shareholder fucking value is strong qoq

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  9. On 12/18/2023 at 11:32 AM, Red Five said:

    What kills me is that I have people in my life who will vote for Trump. Virtually all of my close family. They will vote for him if he is convicted on 91 counts. They will vote for him if he says during a rally that he plans on nuking San Francisco, because fuck that place. They will vote for him if he promises to get us into World War 3. They will vote for him if he promises to end democracy and rule as a dictator until the day he dies. 

     

    On 12/18/2023 at 11:56 AM, DaysOff said:


    Then they are bad people. I'm not talking about 2016 or 2020, but if you're still voting for any R in 2024, you're a bad person; there's no other way to paint it. My own mother is one. Rage watching FNC was we speak. "It's just on in the background. I'm not really paying attention. "

    so i had a thought on my bro text group that i thought I'd share with yall.

    i think it's stagnation largely for a generation who missed the world changing as it passed them by. trump represents a safe time that makes sense to them. but it wasn't safe except mostly for them from a financial standpoint. they could work hard and get an education and a house and with for the same company and actually retire and shit. most of them are retired now.

    they are the marks. they always have been and they can't admit it to themselves. trickle down doesn't work but they somehow got theirs so their use case must be universally true. they've been convinced to vote against their own self interests because they can and it's easy. 

    these are the people who couldn't program their goddamn vcr clocks in the 80s and they haven't done much to better themselves in the intervening decades. 

    i really think there's something to the vcr clock thing. a lack of curiosity that results in entrenched stagnation

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  10. 40 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

    Laughing about when @washparkhorn called the notion of taking the cap off FICA/SECA taxes “class warfare” back in 2010 when he was a Republican kayfabe libertarian.

     

    16 minutes ago, Captainant said:

    Did Chrispy get laid off and learn about workers rights or something? Not that I'm complaining, but it's quite a surprising face turn

    kayfabe? face turn?

    WORLDS ARE COLLIDING

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  11. 23 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

    Yep, anyone who believes that shit fits into one of two categories:  #1 - They never knew any people who let them know they were on the LGBT specturm, and therefore their only experience is "My friend Karen's boy moved off to the city and became a homosexual," therefore it was the the city that did it, it wasn't that Karen's boy was just gay, or #2 - They themselves are fucking L, G, B, or T, and they think they would never have chosen it willingly, so it 100% must be that they were brainwashed by grooming, all the while ignoring that 1000's of people saw the same messaging and turned out straight.  These are people who will never ever ever take responsibility for their feelings or actions, they will always blame some other for all the ills in their world.  Always.

    your last line is basically true for any insecurity. the thing people generally complain about the loudest in others is the thing they most hate about themselves

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  12. 1 minute ago, Captainant said:

    Fascoanarchist is an oxymoron lol. Fascists want there to be a hierarchy and systems in place, just not ones based on laws or good jurisprudence. Anarchists want no system or hierarchy whatsoever 

    modern republicans are oxymorons. it fits. 

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