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horncyclist

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  1. And the media in Nixon's day was much more concentrated. It's far easier today to spin a false narrative through social media and partisan outlets like Fox news.
  2. With these latest developments, think about how if the whistleblower doesn't complain, then Ukraine probably issues that statement announcing an investigation of Hunter Biden in some form.The public would only have seen that and all we would be talking about is Biden's corruption. Regarless of if Ukraine actually investigated or if there was anything there, that statement from Ukraine and the fallout would have significantly hurt Biden. And the President would have compelled it using our foreign and diplomatic power. How is that not impeachable? Holy shit. And if thats wrong but not impeachable (looking at you GOP) them where's the line?How are the actions above any different than promising sanction relief to Russia in exchange for a 2016 effort again? (Oh, which by the way, probably happened and we don't know because Trump OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE 10 times). This is insane.
  3. Other than just straight up lying to the public--I don't see how Republicans defend this. They had gone all in on "there was no quid pro quo" but contemporaneous evidence shows clearly there was. The President withheld military aide to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rival, making clear the quid pro quo through official diplomatic channels.
  4. You could do a lot in a deposition too, much of which was probably done today. Under any normal circumstances, these guys are fucked. I don't see a defense here.
  5. So the quid pro quo-- if it wasn't already clear-- is spelled out in text messages by diplomats charged with executing the deal? That's what was just released, right? July 25 8:36 am Volker texts: “Heard from White House-assuming President Z. convinces Trump he will investigate / ‘get to the bottom of what happened’ in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”
  6. Next he'll tweet his coronation.
  7. That seems pretty damning. Contemporaneous evidence confirming the quid pro quo?
  8. Kasparov with the same sentiment above: This is it GOP, do we have a constitution or not?
  9. Yeah, this is right. If this goes by without consequences where is the line? Why not just cancel the 2016 election?
  10. You can't look at one poll. Even if he's popular, it doesn't change the fact that he's a moron criminal shredding our constitution on a daily basis. Hitler was popular too.
  11. The decision allowed for the imposition of tarriffs on $7.5 billion of goods. There was no award. He mostly just spews complete nonsense these days.
  12. Obama apparently got it in April 2007. There's a way to prioritize it and honestly all of the top 5 dems--and probably Beto too--should have it.
  13. People shouldn't get that close to her at this stage. I'm terrified about political violence and thought she already had secret service protection.
  14. She needs Secret Service protection. Wtf.
  15. Most bizzare thing in the article: Mifsud met Papadopoulos when he and his Italian wife, Simona Mangiante, a lawyer and part-time lingerie model who had hoped to launch her acting career with a role playing French actress Brigitte Bardot in a British film, both worked for a company Mifsud ran. Mangiante told The Daily Beast that she met Mifsud while doing some legal consulting for the European Parliament. His ties to Russia seemed potentially useful to her husband, who was then an integral part of the Trump campaign’s foreign-policy advisory panel at the time.
  16. Please let this be the end. The thing is when the house of cards come down, I'm not so sure who escapes. You have to think Pence is compromised. President Pelosi? How does she navigate that?
  17. You wonder if this outcome--one way or another-- is inevitable at this point. Whether Trump wins or loses--whether there's interference or fraud or not. If Putin wanted to divide America it seems Project Trump is succeeding beyond his wildest expectations. I'm hopeful a leader like Warren could emerge and unite enough the country that we can move on somehow but at the same time I've never been so pessimistic.
  18. I said this a day or two ago but it bears repeating that if he's not removed in the next 3-4 months, I don't know if he will be--absent dying in office. He'll rig the election--one way or another--and that will be it. Think about how much damage he could then.
  19. Unbelievable that the party that spent the last 20 years or so screaming about the Constitution is ripping it up. Lincoln, also a Republican, did it to save the Union. Today's republicans are doing it to save....Trump.
  20. I think she has. No point in continuing to talk about it. There has been nothing new since the DNA test. By elevating it to an issue that she had to address repeatedly, you're doing exactly what Trump wants.
  21. In addition to there be nothing wrong or dishonest about Schiff's summation, Trump lies to the American people on a daily basis.
  22. BT, I don't have time to go through everything in your post this morning and don't want to engage a baseless and bad faith attack in line with Birtherism and emails. I just wanted to add that one other consideration is that she came from a working class background to enter the elitest circles in the US. As someone who has done it, the imposter syndrome and other insecurities make you do stupid things to try to relate to people.I lied about stupid stuff like playing football when I didn't for reasons I still can't explain today.
  23. This is wrong. If it wasn't calling Schiff's dentified paraphrase a lie and"Treason", it would have been something else. He is committed to manipulating the public through falsehoods.
  24. That ad being out there is not new. It's covered in the Politifact summary on this. Her story has consistently been that she relied on family stories of Native American ancestry. Over time, she has come to recognize that it is wrong to rely on family lore -- even if genuinely held -- considering the history of Native Americans in our country and has apologized. That doesn't change that she had a genuinely held and important belief that her family had native ancestors. Warren’s ultimate explanation was she was drawing on family stories. "As a kid, I never asked my mom about documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage," Warren said in a 2012 campaign ad. "What kid would? But I knew my father’s family didn’t like that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware. So my parents had to elope." Warren’s extended family offered a mixed take on those stories to Boston Globe reporters. Gloria Wysong, a cousin, said that her mother told her that the family's heritage "was Delaware, but the Delaware and Cherokee merged together." And David Herring, Warren’s brother, said he grew up hearing, "Your grandfather is part Delaware, a little bitty bit, way back, and your grandmother is part Cherokee." But other cousins had no such memories. The main takeaway from the Globe’s reporting was that many who had Native American ties hid them, and documentation at the turn of the last century was spotty. In any event, any ties were so distant that they would not qualify her as minority by any official yardstick. Warren herself didn’t trumpet this side of her family story. When applying to college and law school, records show that she either identified as white or declined to apply based on minority status. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/01/facts-behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/ My Dad's family is from Oklahoma and my grandmother told me similar stories growing up. She also told me--without evidence-- that we were "probably related to the Wright Brothers" because we had Wrights in our family. All of this is probably false, but that they were part of my families identity is true--and the same goes for Elisabeth Warren. This is "Hillary's emails" attack against Warren and every democrat should be careful how they use it.
  25. Live look-in on Trump:
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