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  1. 16 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

    Why? A fuckton of other recruits are. Do you think he's interested in Texas? Certainly doesn't seem like it when you consider his quote about our history of signing top recruits and regularly seeing them underperform and fail to develop and get drafted early. Those aren't the words of a guy who wants to come to Texas.  

    Yah, he's all about going to Texas A&M so he can be the next Ricky Seals-Jones!!!

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  2. 19 minutes ago, RadiologyHorn said:

    Not buying for a second that Garrett Wilson is enamored with aggy. 

    Why are people so quick to jump on board and believe EJ just hours after he proved he is completely out of the loop this cycle. He has no clue what is going on. But the second he reports something outlandish and negative for us it’s taken as the gospel.

    Fuck that guy and fuck aggy. 

    It's not just an EJ thing, it's the fact that Wilson's first follow on the Twitters since this whole Meyer thing has gone down was the A&M WR coach, who apparently is some WR recruiting whisperer. 

  3. 24 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

     

    On the other hand, I'm hoping Beck hopping into the recruitment is the final signal that Herman realizes FauxHawk is a bad fit for what this program needs to succeed. 

    Yah, doesn't seem like a positive development for Merhinger.

     

    Herman also needs to deploy The Carrington. Fuel that puppy up and go on tour. 

  4. 1 hour ago, satyanash said:

    — Last but not least, I don’t feel like Texas is a real option for Garrett Wilson. At least not right now. Despite the situation at Ohio State, he seems pretty solid to the Buckeyes. And we’ve been told if he does open things up, Texas A&M would actually have the inside track.

    "And we've been told" = "we also saw that he has recently followed the A&M WR coach"

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  5. 18 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

    Wait, talent?

    Ford was a low 4 star

    Chisholm was a 3 star

    Omenihu was a 3 star

    Hager was a 3 star

    Nelson was a 3 star

    Wilbon was a 3 star

    Bimage was a 3 star

    Christmas was a 3 star

    Roach was a 3 star

    The only highly regarded kid on the 2 deep this year is Graham.

    So really what is your point, because we seem to be getting the same type of material that has become talented.

    Uh well uhm then it's all Orlando then. Yah, all Todd. 

  6. 16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    Frankly, what should have already happened is they brought in a rainmaking DT coach, and there are plenty out there and many emerge young in this vein for CFB staffs, and Giles should be coaching DEs, evaluating recruiting targets, and supervising the DL overall while the DT coach works the recruits.

     

    I'm all about this. 

  7. 15 minutes ago, elguapo said:

    Giles ability to coach-up talent has been severely overblown on this board by those trying to defend his recruiting.  IMO our DL improvement last season was largely due to talent gaining experience and scheme.  Giles is an above average developer of talent but at Texas we should be able to hire a DL coach who excels in both areas  I don't understand this idea that we should hire a special DL recruiting coach to cover up Giles' shortcomings, we should be maximizing all of our available resources.

    Well number 1, I'm not defending his recruiting, so that doesn't apply to me. I think he's an above average developer of talent.

     

    Number 2, you also believe he's an above average developer of talent

     

    Number 3, name me who that excellent recruiter + DL coach is, and let's hope they get him.

     

    Until then, I'll be angry at Giles' recruiting, but happy with his coaching. Not gunna call for his canning just yet.

  8. 15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    Wrong. LSU is in a hyper-competitive footprint under attack from all sides. There is no faith in Orgeron from the HS coaching ranks and alums are not going to support a lame duck, especially in a broke ass place like Louisiana. He's struggling to recruit top 5 classes because he's not supported and he was a bad hire. A supported HC at LSU gets damn near everybody they want in Louisiana and winning is secondary. For example, Miles was supported by the HS coaches all the way out the door. Orgeron is going to end up burning that place to the ground before they can afford his buyout. 

    You're arguing that "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" in the one arena in which that isn't necessarily true. Some programs can recruit well with a competent staff no matter what the recent history of that place is - USC, Notre Dame, Texas, etc., and some amazing recruiting staffs can recruit lights out at a dry well of CFB - see Miami under Schnellenberger and Johnson, FSU under early days of Bowden, Oregon under Kelly or Cristobal (yes, there's cheating at these places too, but that's not the primary driver for any of their successes). Some schools cheat their asses off and defy their lot in the landscape and they get busted and sent to the back of the line - see Ole Miss, Baylor (Rape Factory), SMU (Pony Express), North Carolina (Butch Davis football). None of these programs have won first and then crushed it in recruiting. They've gone hand in hand. 

    I'll take your word for it on LSU, but some of you are getting me twisted on my talking points about the 2005 Nat'l championship when it comes to recruiting.

     

    Herman finished with a top 3 class last year, crushed it. Jimbruh will finish with a damn fine class this year, doing pretty well, all without winning first, obviously.  Herman will have a top 10 class this year. But to consistently compete for those top 3 finishes in recruiting, wins will have to come sooner or later, and what you did 13 years ago that was followed by years of suck isn't going to help you at all. It's easier to get a kid to buy into whatever your winning tradition was when it's thrown on top of a lot of current winning.

     

    No big deal, all good points.

  9. 13 minutes ago, elguapo said:

    Winning 9+ games this season will not change the fact that OU is and has been kicking our ass in DL recruiting and will continue to do so as long as Giles is our primary DL recruiter.

    No, but it'll help it be a less of an ass kicking, and I think Giles can actually coach-up whatever talent they do get.

     

    Still, like I say, not opposed to change there if it has to happen.

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  10. 17 minutes ago, satyanash said:

    Florida is in a similar position to us - a lot of their posters are saying the same 'Win and our recruiting struggles go away' line. Like for us, it's also an oversimplification, and Mullen will likely have to make some tough decisions re: his staff.

    That is true, but as I hinted at before, you don't always have to have a stellar staff across the whole board when you're pulling wins. 9-10 wins last year would be helping Giles and Meh this year. I think Meh's the easier staff member to throw an "Adios!" to, with Giles being a big plus at, you know, actually coaching. But I'm not opposed to change.

  11. 14 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    If you think underachieving on the field is the "struggling" that LSU has experiencing lately in regards to their recruiting then you are fucking high. 

    For LSU to finish outside of the top 15 in ANY recruiting ranking poll last year isn't "only" on O's goofy ass. Five seasons of finishing tied for third or lower in your conference, I don't care if it's the SEC or not, isn't going to help anyone. 

  12. 23 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    The number of teams that can claim a more recent title is 7.  Bama, FSU, tosu, Clemson, auburn, Florida, LSU. 

    Though to be fair, Florida and LSU feel like a long time ago. 

    Yes, and Fla and LSU have underachieved recently, and it has shown up in their recruiting. 

  13. 19 minutes ago, ousux said:

    But it really don't make a shit, look at our #3 class last year after nearly a decade of mediocrity, and aggy this year likely pulling in a top 5 class in spite of nobody alive (or with their full memory still intact) with first hand knowledge their last natty, and that is the only somewhat real thing they can hang their hat on.

    But yeah, start winning and things will get even easier on the recruiting trail.

    Yah, last year's Herman and this year's Fisher, coming in guns blazing in their first full recruiting cycles. Selling their hope and change. Whether they were good in 2005 didn't matter last year or this year, because neither program has been in the national conversation for quite a a while now when it comes to contending and winning. Advantage Aggy has is actually putting a decent amount of butts in the NFL in the early rounds, & SECSEC. A big advantage IMO, that only got bigger with Jimbruh being able to show his recent record (Hey let's just ignore last year, Kids). Makes winning all that more important, and the wins should be a bit easier to come by in the Big12 vs. SEC.

     

     

  14. 23 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

    I am just saying it ignores the exact same situation that had happened prior to start the 2000s. UT hadn't won a MNC in 30 odd years.

    Maybe not quite the exact same as Mackovic had some success on field unlike Strong/end of tenure FUPM but still it had been a long time since UT was relevant.

    I gotcha. I just don't think it resonates with kids these days to say, "We did win the National Championship in two thousand and fi.... wow has it really been 13 years? Yah, but anyway, we did do that, so you're coming to a school with tradition.", when there's nothing else to couple it with besides "Have some faith in us." It's gunna be easier to talk about 2005 etc... when you're winning games. They just gotta win now. Please God. 

  15. 35 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

    The whole "kids weren't born during the last championship run" storyline is played out. How is that any different than the 2000's run? Texas hadn't done much of anything in the 80's & 90's at all and yet somehow strung together a really good run of football with kids that weren't born at the last championship and had lived through some poor UT teams.

    Herman needs to have at least 8 wins this year and to show some material progress. If the O still absolutely sucks balls and if he and the staff sleepwalk on teams they feel they should beat (Maryland/Tech etc) then recruiting will have the wheels come off on the offensive side of the ball.

    It's not played out when you're trying to convince kids to come to Texas, to the Big 12, to a program that's not been very good for quite some time, who isn't going to allow you to take the field in 27 different sparkly uniform combinations over the extent of your career. 

     

    But like you said, there was the 2000s run. It was good recruiting + winning. That's the same thing that has to happen here now. Then maybe you add 2005 etc... to the mix. 

  16. 11 hours ago, satyanash said:

    It's not 'dumb', it allows you to properly evaluate a coach's ability to recruit.

    No one would care if Mehringer or Giles were missing like this on OOS guys. OOS isn't our bread-and-butter, the state of Texas is. We expect our hit rate to be lower on OOS guys, that's just how it is. But when you're missing on in-state guys at this rate, especially guys who live so close to Austin, that's an indicator that something is wrong. If Mehringer and Giles were landing the top in-state guys they're expected to land, or at least half of them, we wouldn't care if they missed on 95% on the OOS guys.

    I think if Texas hadn't been a shit-show for the past seven years, these two average/sub-par/whateveryouwanttoratethem recruiters may actually be landing a satisfactory amount of in-state studs.

     

    Part of it's on them, part of it's on not winning and putting as many asses in the NFL early and often enough as we used to.

     

    (Not that I'm opposed to necessary changes)

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