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  1. Just now, TwiceHorn said:

    I don't pay much attention to the NBA or to LeBron.

    I have, however, seen that "barbershop" talk show on HBO, I think it is, that features LeBron and others.  From what I have seen on there, he's not nearly as dumb as one might conclude from knowing his background.  He did attend a Catholic high school that appears not to be a sports or basketball factory.

    He’s not dumb at all.

  2. 2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Because if the representation is sooo important as you claim, it would likely be easier and faster that way.  But that’s not the end goal, is it?  You can be honest here. I don’t like it because one way, you want it a certain way because of something else.  

    How would it be easier or faster? Maryland hasn’t said they will accept DC in their state. And if they become part of Maryland are we taking away those three electoral votes or moving them to Maryland? I want it a certain way because Americans should be represented. I want more states, more reps, whatever gets people more of a voice in their government. I’d like PR to be a state as well and they likely won’t vote D.
    So yet again you support denial of rights to certain Americans that aren’t on your team. 

  3. 1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

    Cool. Maryland can gain some population. 

    Why? You literally can’t explain any reason why they shouldn’t become a state other than it hurts your team. Let us know when you come up with a reason for the positions you take.

  4. 1 minute ago, Lobo said:

    If it was just about giving people representation in Congress, it would have already been done when D.C. was solidly Democrat, and the Congress was solidly Democrat.  Plenty of 2-year instances of that over the last 250 years.  For the last 50 of those years, there's another reason why D.C. hasn't been given statehood during Democrat reign.  Nobody is asking those questions.  

    Who cares? None of that changes that 700,000 people have no representation in this country. We can do it now. It’s the right thing to do. Period.

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  5. 1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

    [b]I’ve rarely seen any criticism of him, so no, I did not know that[/b]. I assume he blew his political capital load on his healthcare initiatives, and didn’t have room for DC.  Which goes back to my question, obviously people have wanted it for a century (per the articles listed above) so why didn’t it get prioritized at any point?   Also curious how long PR has been coveted.  Surely not as long as DC. 

    You’re either a troll or incredibly obtuse. 
     

    You’re not sure why no one prioritized enfranchising hundreds of thousands of black people? Because this is America and racism is kind of our thing. 

  6. 2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

    Not sure how you don't understand that, while they hold a lot of power, US presidents don't actually control who runs committees or what happens in them to get bills to the floor for a vote. And they certainly don't control the Senate. Fuck, even with Biden's full-throated support, the rules of the Senate will likely keep this from happening.

    In America, presidents are not dictators. It's too bad the former one, and many of his supporters, don't understand the concept of separation of powers and that Congress doesn't work for the president. 

     

  7. 5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    So he held it all, and was in favor, but couldn’t rally to get it thru? 

    You realize a main criticism from the left of Obama is that he was not particularly effective at passing his agendas.

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  8. Just now, fattyflattie said:

    We’d like to hold power forever so it’s important now.  Not important enough for Obama to do something about, but it is now.  And we’ve cared FOREVER.  Cool. 

    It’s literally been pointed out in the post directly above yours that we’ve cared about it forever. But honestly you should need that. Perhaps you’ve heard of the American Revolution?

  9. 1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

    Yes.  Politicians become decent as soon as the put the correct letter by their name. They instantly no longer crave power and money. Cuomo out front should have told me. 

    Eh, some of my companies major financial backing is there. I can only go off polls and what I glean from them. 

    Hahahahah. Yeah. 
     

     

    Cool so you’ve basically got nothing but “this hurts my team so representation is bad”. Very American of you

  10. 4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Because different people have different beliefs?  Heavy O&G states don’t gaf about any new green deals any more than New Yorkers care about opening up fracking in public lands.   You are correct, this isn’t hard.   That’s but 1 reason, of hundreds.  I understand you think you’re way is the right way, but there’s what, 40% of the county that currently disagrees.  

    So the problem is that republicans can’t come up with policy that appeals to those voters. You just said Texas is turning blue. Dems are finding ways to appeal to this state including the O&G people, otherwise you wouldn’t be worried about Texas turning blue. So if Dems can appeal to voters in Red states, why can’t Pubs appeal to voters in blue ones? Again, the job is to win voters. You’re anti representation because it hurts you politically. Instead you should think how can we appeal to voters since that’s how this democracy thing works. Seriously dude what the fuck is so hard for you to understand?

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  11. 2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    No. I’m aware state politics have more latitude for play. Ann Richards and all that jazz. I’m more interested in the ones that actually matter.   Texas will turn blue in my lifetime (easily).   Cali and NY and DC will not flip in the next 100 years.  Our citizens should not be taxed without (full) representation.  But this is about the next 50 years of one party senate control.  It’s ok to admit that. 

    Why? Tell me why those states won’t flip? This isn’t fucking hard dude.

  12. Just now, fattyflattie said:

    Sure.  

    Do you disagree? Why are you under the impression that states are some static voting entity that never changes. States are comprised of people who have different wants and needs. Are you honestly this fucking stupid that you can’t understand that politicians should appeal to voters? Do  you think parties should just tell us what we want or that we the voters should shape policy?

  13. 3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Do you feel NY or CA will vote red in your lifetime?   Or DC?    

    If the GOP starts supporting policies that those voters are in favor. Seriously what are you even talking about?

  14. 5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    This one? 

    People In Columbus Gather To Protest Shooting Of Black Teenage Girl : NPR

    "Ma'Khia Bryant was involved in a fight on Tuesday, according to 911 calls. Her aunt says Ma'Khia called police for help. Body cam video shows Officer Nicholas Reardon getting out of his car, and the video shows Ma'Khia Bryant with a knife, which she raises as if to plunge into another person. The officer yells, get down and then fires his weapon. NPR's Frank Morris is in Columbus. Frank, good morning.

    ***

    Seconds after officers showed up, Bryant is shown lunging at a woman who falls. Reardon pulls his gun and yells. Then Bryant turns to another woman, rearing back with what police say was a knife in her hand, as the woman cowers on the side of a car."

    or this one?

    Ma'Khia Bryant: Police Identify Officer Who Shot Teen, Release Video Footage : NPR

    "Bryant, who was Black, died after calling 911 to ask for police to come help protect her from a group of other girls who had threatened violence, her family says. State authorities are investigating her death. Video from the scene shows that Bryant was holding a knife.

    "We need a police officer here now," a female is heard telling a 911 operator in one recording, as yelling is heard in the background. As the noise continues in the background, the female adds, "We got these ... grown girls over here, trying to fight us.""

    Forgive me if I question your hearing. 

    How have I lied? You parroted a false claim from a radio program and admitted you were incorrect when called on it. I thanked you for that. I just wish you'd acknowledge the greater problem of having millions of people parroting claims that are easily proven false. And I wish everyone was a bit more skeptical about what they read and hear, especially when an event is first reported. Lebron James would have done well to follow the same advice. 

    See according the @Onboard 2.0 Lebron is ignorant for “not thinking” before posting. @Onboard 2.0 though is just a regular Joe so thinking isn’t a requirement for His posting. I’m not sure if that makes him ignorant or not by his own definition. 

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  15. Just now, fattyflattie said:

    Thank you for your honesty. It’s refreshing.  I’m certain you wouldn’t feel that way if it wasn’t your team winning, but is what it is.  DC and PR literally game the math where it will never be overcome. Congrats. 

    Why will it never be overcome? Are the GOP incapable of reaching out to new voters? Seriously dude come the fuck on. The job is getting people to vote for you. If the GOP can’t do that then they aren’t equipped for the job.

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  16. 3 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

    Hmm.  Perhaps you were asleep on November 3rd and the week following.  It seemed to me the country was screaming loud and long about what they wanted.  The only thing that seems to be holding us back are procedural rules.

    And I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling voters

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  17. 10 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Yep thanks.  Nice of you to say.  You can't even be honest, and admit the agenda that's still being spun. Tell me about the "knife fight" Ma'kia was in.  I wanna hear about the 2 combatants going at it.

    I have no idea. I’ve never once said it was a “knife fight”. The shooting was 100% justified.

    So you’ve now called me a liar twice in this thread. Yet again, tell me the lie.

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  18. 4 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Nope just not true. Not even gonna list the news segments, and interviews of experts that have spun, and are still spinning this thing as cop kills black girl, cop kills unarmed black girl, murdered girl was in a knife fight (knife fight ?  no she was attacking an unarmed girl with a knife). The spin is still going on, and to say it's not is just not being honest.

    Well we all know you’re very media savvy 

  19. 13 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    What I said is that y'all are tilting at windmills. I dont think this thread is about incident at all. Y'all don't care about what happened. This thread is about the media coverage and the slight y'all believe y'all suffered because of it. Pretty much everyone (except perhaps the family) agrees this shooting was justified. And even those that first thought there was something more here walked it back once the footage was released. This thread is the embodiment of the victims mentality that y'all mock. 

    GIF by Coming to America

  20. 4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Would they not be represented as part of Maryland, or Va?   

    They would be better represented by being their own state. They would have a governor who has actual authority over the space governed. They would be larger in population than I believe three states and virtually equal to two or three others. So why the uneven influence for citizens in Dakota or Vermont? Why are their votes worth more than 700,000 people in DC?

    So I guess you’re not actually for splitting the Dakotas are you? 

  21. Just now, fattyflattie said:

    Listen, you are obviously fine with a one party America. Just say that. It’s ok.  

    Am I? Because I think I’m advocating for parties trying to win over voters and your advocates limiting representation. So again, what’s your issue with expanding representation?

  22. Just now, fattyflattie said:

    I was thinking we turn them into 16 states.  No reason other than representation and whatnot. 

    Cool. I support that as well. Our reps and senators represent too many people. So if you support separating the Dakotas what’s the problem with DC?

  23. 1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

    No, they can be represented as Maryland. This is about only 1 thing, and it’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.  

    So why don’t we merge all of the dakotas into one state? Why or why not?
     

    It is about one thing. It’s about voter representation. This isn’t hard. Seriously do you think political parties should work to represent voters or should they look for ways to disenfranchise them?

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  24. 1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

    Yeah. I specifically asked if the board thinks the country is ready for one side to have power indefinitely, which is what this will bring.   I know this particular board wants that, but I’m guessing that’s not indicative of most of the country.  So kindly go fuck yourself.  

    You didn’t specifically ask that actually. “indefinitely”. You know politics is about winning voters right?
     

    So you think that whole taxation without representation thing is ok? 

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