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Posts posted by immamac
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5 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
then maybe don't use that word. the english language has a nearly endless supply of nouns. Try manipulator. Perhaps mobster. Bully also comes to mind. If you want to add an adjective, maybe try strong man, although that connotes things about him that aren't true. have fun with it. there's lots of things our president can be called, but a leader is not one of them.
noun
the action of leading a group of people or an organization
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7 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:I don't know why I was surprised to look up the group named on the bottom of the printed posters and find the protests in all these cities are organized by the Party for Socialism and Liberation whose goal is to completely topple capitalism.
I mean this is the kind of lie that makes me want to fucking ban you.
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Super weird, no mention of any of that here either.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l6eAqoEFDbCwnd66zy84lXnHux317-Rpf9XtsIpnuCw/edit?usp=drivesdk
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1 minute ago, Murfdogg21 said:
I don't know why I was surprised to look up the group named on the bottom of the printed posters and find the protests in all these cities are organized by the Party for Socialism and Liberation whose goal is to completely topple capitalism.
https://www.nokings.org/#about
Show me where that is here?
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2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:
Well yeah, he's not personally firing nonlethal projectiles at innocents (reporters, etc.) but I don't think you can correctly state that he's not a bad actor in the protests themselves.
No he's what people are protesting (well him and his policy which is ICE raids etc. They are same same)
That's not saying he's not bad. I just don't think contextually it matters to mention trump as a baddie in the frame of reference of this conversation - to be perfectly clear. Trump is the ultimate bad actor overall in all of this.
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Just now, wildcat09 said:
I'm reasonably sure I was one of like three posters here who in 2021 thought Trump had a very good shot at being President again.
Yep, that'd what you got from that post, it's funny because you can't even think because you are so focused on how much you hate trump and how bad it is.
What if that behavior actually IS the problem?
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5 minutes ago, royiv said:
so he’s not one of the bad guys? Seems to me these protests wouldn’t be happening and we wouldn’t have active duty military deployed in a major US city without him. That makes him the ultimate bad guy in all of this.
In saying categorically hes the supervillain or whatever. He's the cause of all of this, but he's not the bad actor in the protests themselves.
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Just now, wildcat09 said:
You should read your own posts sometimes, man.
Trump is literally known for going out and talking to people in places like Butler Pennsylvania, meeting with tons of people and making tons of calls himself. Is he up to anything good? No, but that doesn't mean he's not an effective leader - it just happens to be that he's leading off a cliff.
Maybe you should stop letting hatred of someone blind you so completely. Use your fucking brain and stop being such emotional zombies.
Trump sucks, he's awful. He's also president for 4 years, unless there's a dramatic shift in congress. 2026 matters quite a bit and if that doesn't work 2028 matters a ton.
How do you get to 2026 and 2028 to affect change? That should be the all consuming question. Everything between now and then is survival and trying to keep major regression or damage from occuring.
Right now the only display of leadership is with Bernie and AOC, but AOC is really just a sideshow to Bernie who is a true leader, who was sabotaged by his own team because the Democratic party as it is currently set up is not actually representative of progressive or liberal ideology, It's simply the 2nd political party that shows up on ballots and is controlled by the other rich people who "aren't as bad"
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1 minute ago, royiv said:
You left out the very worst guy. You know, the one who is inciting all of this shit?
Trump is what the protest is about...
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Just because it's not the leadership you want doesn't mean it's not leadership, holy absolute fuck. Why are some of you so dense that you cannot even see outside your own god damned bubble.
35% of the country thinks trump is a fantastic leader and he is doing shit that they want. Leadership and winning aren't the same fucking thing.
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There are 2 bad guys here right now.
1) violent protesters who are fucking things up for the peaceful protesters and actually vandalising and doing damage to stuff.
2) law enforcement and military who are present and exacerbating things by acting like the peaceful protesters are all violent.
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9 minutes ago, Foosters said:
Explain. Vast majority of protesters are non-violent
Its hiding the fact that there are violent actors mixed in with the bubble blowers. Both things can be true and both things can be effective propoganda vehicles.
What we need is someone to say "some fucking idiot shitheads are ruining the otherwise peaceful protest, and there's no way to have law enforcement help the good protesters in controlling the bad ones because the law enforcement officers are being told to not actually be helpful"
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2 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:
Probably burn the whole house down. They'll give you a new roof on the rebuild.
No insurance because roof so bad.
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Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
you are massively conflating leadership with authoritarianism/dictatorship. what dotard exhibits is not leadership - not even in the slightest. he coerces, strongarms, or outright lies and manipulates people to get his way. you need to open your eyes, man
Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not leadership.
You need to open your fucking eyes. I'm not blind to what's happening, it seems like you are.
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What is the cheapest possible way to get a new roof for one that is completely worn out?
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7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:
Newsome has been 100x better pushing back against Trump than Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. Where are those two betas?We’d be a lot better off if hundreds of dem pols stood in front of a camera and tore Trump apart point by point. Put it on tiktok, Facebook, YouTube.
As much as all of you want to think I trump is a terrible leader, he isn't. He's a pretty fucking good leader, he is just completely retarded so his outcomes are dogshit, he gets the outcomes he wants and he gets people to fall in line extremely well though. Its easy to lead by example when its hate and incompetence that you are getting people to follow you on, so there's that.
Newsom fucking sucks, but I'll give you that he's the best active thing going right now for dems.
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1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:
that’s not backed up by statisticsI meant the cute speech behind camera. Obviously the protests are effective.
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Look newsom gave a speech that doesn't mean he is any kind of qualified or good leader.
Leadership is getting on a fucking plane, going down to ground zero and telling people to knock it the fuck off or join in and lead by example.
All these mother fuckers are so far up their own ass they think they are in an ivory tower.
Real leadership isn't talking behind a fucking camera in a studio all alone with makeup. It's activating people and enabling outcomes. There is no change in outcome that is coming from any of this.
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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
The big question is, does he/the restaurant own the building? If it's a long term lease, what's the story there? If not, are you trying to buy a piece of property in downtown Austin? You're probably talking millions of dollars.
The second thing would be rules around a bunch of these twatwaffles who three down tree fiddy coming in every day saying "I'm an owner my shit is free."Obviously it would be specials only not free shit.
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27 minutes ago, Bookman said:
We should pool our money and buy it.
I am actually fine with this.
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I'm not defending deploying the national guard or abbott, but I do think there is a serious risk of non-peaceful protests because shit is all stirred up and charged right now.
What the nation doesn't need right now is another Minneapolis during BLM/George Floyd Protests. That shit didn't help fucking anything and that's what people want to avoid.
It looks like LA has had plenty of accountability within the protest, but at night the violence starts when most people go home.
Be safe out there and be smart.
Fuck Fascism and Fuck Nazis.
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3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:
So when Newsom disappears tomorrow, what’s the plan?
Don't go looking for him it might be trouble.
This whole thing is wild.
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I'm pretty sure he didn't own it anymore. There was a bartender there earlier this year when I went there before a show at Moody that said he owned it now or something unless I totally misunderstood what was going on.
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yeah news only please. gonna start deleting shit.
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Can't even get fucking semantics right.