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Well its a recent contract. It was done in order to give the 2Pac games this season. It goes away in another year. I don't think it is like the exit fees that are to approximate damages. This is intended to be painful, just as breakup fees in a corporate merger are painful. Its much more of an agreed purchase price. Strikes me as a frivolous lawsuit.
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I read they were only offering $2.5 million for exit fees for the AAC schools. Those fees would probably be around $15-$18 million.
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"...But that plan is going to be limited by another reality: Memphis, one consultant told USA TODAY Sports, is not valued by TV rights holders significantly more than, say, Utah State. And Oregon State and Washington State, the two original Pac-12 leftovers who decided to bring the conference back, aren’t valued much more than Memphis. In other words, the new Pac-12 was not going to be a power conference no matter which of the potential members jumped in. And the notion of a $12 million per member payday, which had been the carrot for a school like Memphis (currently making around $8-9 million in the AAC) was merely theoretical and based on calculations from the Pac-12’s paid consultants that few people across the college sports industry actually believed...." https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2024/09/23/pac-12-conference-realignment-aac/75354941007/ This is the part that made me skeptical of all these plans. It just didn't make sense based on the values. WSU/OSU are not much more valuable than a typical G5, maybe less than Boise. And after that, you've probably got Memphis, USF and Temple. Then its all pretty fungible, some slightly worse than others. Besides the money they are spending, SDSU seems to be mentioned mainly because they are the only G5 school in southern California. Below are the TV ratings from Sic-em for non power schools. The schools with 36 games over the 9 years were ranked. Oregon St. was #66, near the bottom of the P5 and a little below Boise and Memphis and just ahead of USF. Below that, I've ranked the schools with less than 36 games in order. UNLV was dead last in MWC and SDSU didn't do that well either, ranked right between Buffalo and Kent. School All 2013-2021 Top 36 (4 Per Year) Top 36 Rank Navy 45 Games, 2.33mm 2.819mm 35 Washington St. 56 Games, 1.407mm 1.905mm 50 P12 Boise St. 72 Games, 0.827mm 1.258mm 63 MWC Memphis 52 Games, 0.918mm 1.257mm 64 Oregon St. 40 Games, 1.124mm 1.214mm 66 P12 USF 48 Games, 0.861mm 1.103mm 68 Temple 42 Games, 0.773mm 0.891mm 70 Tulsa 51 Games, 0.603mm 0.82mm 72 Northern Illinois 36 Games, 0.648mm 0.648mm 74 East Carolina 37 Games, 0.547mm 0.56mm 75 Army 24 Games, 3.331mm N/A N/A Rice 13 Games, 0.836mm N/A N/A Fresno St. 33 Games, 0.697mm N/A N/A MWC Coastal Carolina 10 Games, 0.647mm N/A N/A Ball St. 15 Games, 0.635mm N/A N/A Colorado St. 22 Games, 0.605mm N/A N/A MWC Western Michigan 26 Games, 0.603mm N/A N/A Appalachian St. 27 Games, 0.587mm N/A N/A Air Force 30 Games, 0.584mm N/A N/A MWC Florida Atlantic 13 Games, 0.583mm N/A N/A Connecticut 31 Games, 0.571mm N/A N/A Utah St. 33 Games, 0.563mm N/A N/A MWC ULL 25 Games, 0.562mm N/A N/A Western Kentucky 18 Games, 0.553mm N/A N/A UAB 8 Games, 0.552mm N/A N/A Hawaii 15 Games, 0.55mm N/A N/A MWC Southern Miss 11 Games, 0.541mm N/A N/A Buffalo 25 Games, 0.529mm N/A N/A San Diego St. 28 Games, 0.522mm N/A N/A MWC Kent St. 25 Games, 0.503mm N/A N/A Marshall 18 Games, 0.498mm N/A N/A Nevada 24 Games, 0.493mm N/A N/A MWC Bowling Green 25 Games, 0.478mm N/A N/A Arkansas St. 24 Games, 0.472mm N/A N/A Massachusetts 6 Games, 0.468mm N/A N/A Wyoming 29 Games, 0.45mm N/A N/A MWC UTEP 12 Games, 0.444mm N/A N/A Ohio 29 Games, 0.44mm N/A N/A Toledo 31 Games, 0.439mm N/A N/A Georgia St. 9 Games, 0.434mm N/A N/A South Alabama 15 Games, 0.42mm N/A N/A Tulane 35 Games, 0.419mm N/A N/A Miami (OH) 15 Games, 0.405mm N/A N/A San Jose St. 20 Games, 0.398mm N/A N/A MWC New Mexico 25 Games, 0.371mm N/A N/A MWC Middle Tennessee St. 12 Games, 0.359mm N/A N/A Eastern Michigan 9 Games, 0.35mm N/A N/A Central Michigan 17 Games, 0.347mm N/A N/A Texas St. 15 Games, 0.337mm N/A N/A Louisiana Tech 14 Games, 0.334mm N/A N/A UTSA 16 Games, 0.314mm N/A N/A UNLV 20 Games, 0.307mm N/A N/A MWC
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ULL has always been FBS. They didn't move down in 1982. LT didn't move up until 1989 and ULM until 1994.
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https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/conference-realignment-update-recap-gonzaga-pac-12-mountain-west-aac? McMurphy's summary: "For college football fans wondering what conference realignment would look like if they could speed date for new partners, Monday provided a real-time glimpse. And like most reality TV shows, it was part lovefest, part trainwreck, and you couldn’t look away. It started with Memphis, USF, UTSA and Tulane — all of which had offers to join the Pac-12 — announcing they were committed to the AAC. They sent out a 120-word commitment to the AAC ending with “The American Way.” Lately “The American Way” has been conference realignment...."
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They're desperate for football members.
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MWC is trying to get commitments. its going back and forth. Air Force has committed. SJSU has committed. New Mexico and Wyoming I haven't heard, but the 6PAC has no interest in them. Air Force and UNLV are supposed to get $10 million bonuses to stay from the Pac money. UNLV agreed to stay, but after Utah St. decided to leave, is now waffling. Latest is Utah St. to 6Pac and talking to Gonzaga all but football and UConn football only!
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Lincoln was famously quoted as saying, after being told Grant was a drunk early in the war, "Well he fights. Let me know what brand he drinks and I'll send it to all my generals!"
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Other sources (less reliable than McMurphy) have said the Gonzaga deal isn't done yet, but they are talking. I'm inclined to go with McMurphy-all the i's haven't been dotted and the t's crossed, but its likely done. Dellenger is saying AFA is committed to the MWC and not going to AAC. Sounds like a bit of a standoff between the 6Pac and MWC8.
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Best TV ratings of the G5 (excluding military academies). Best upward potential. They have drawn 45k in the past in good years. Hoops is really good. How many schools outside the P6 have been to two national title games?
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I thought all the night games were because we were on TV. I would have expected afternoon or noon.
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They were Indians so they had to make up a stupid new mascot name.
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I had the LHN.
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Aggy vs. Bowling Green is also relegated to streaming so Mickey can show Ga. Southern vs. Ole Miss on the SECN and Miami at South Florida on ESPN. Are they really pushing streaming or does somebody in Connecticut just hate the state of Texas?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/pac-12-gutting-mountain-west-sparks-fresh-realignment-stress-at-schools-outside-power-four/ar-AA1qRIQw "...The first level of those concerns revolves around simple math: Until the Pac-12 lands a media deal, there’s no guarantee of a significant increase from what Memphis makes in the American Athletic (estimated to be in the $8 million-$9 million range). But the valuations being discussed for the new Pac-12 by its media consultants in the $10 million-$12 million range are only theoretical at this point, and may not make a meaningful difference financially when you consider increased travel costs. Crucially, though, maximizing the value of the new Pac-12 is also going to depend on selling a true “best of the rest” configuration that Memphis and others would need to commit to with a Grant of Rights agreement that locks them into the league for the length of the contract. That illustrates the other reason why patience may win out at Memphis. After an unsuccessful pursuit of Big 12 membership, school officials there are now eyeing the ACC as a potential landing spot in the next handful of years.... The Pac-12’s resurrection, though, has forced Group of Five administrators to acknowledge the reality that either one of the current leagues will fold or more FCS members are going to be brought up to FBS to backfill amidst the game of musical chairs. Both options are bad, but the latter may be worse...."
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There is no end game. It always changes. The conferences are getting so big, there are going to be differences and schools dissatisfied with their number of conference titles. Every conference that has gotten to 16 or more has eventually split. Its happened before, it will happen again. But I think it will take a while this time, maybe 20-30 years before the Big 10 and SEC crack up.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/go-west-the-next-wave-of-realignment-is-in-memphis-hands-135625431.html Article today. Apparently its all on Memphis. PAC wants Memphis, Tulane, USF and UTSA. Projecting $12-$15 million total conference distributions (TV, NCAA bb, etc.). Memphis isn't thrilled and worried about the validity of the projections.
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UH has barely played UCF. They don't really care about Cincinnati.
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UTSA coach admits they are talking to PAC. https://clutchpoints.com/pac-12-news-utsa-coach-admits-conversation-expansion-rumblings
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Well there are a lot of former Southland Conference members-Arkansas St., ULL, ULM, Troy.
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There's a political factor in that scenario they really don't want to get into. I think it was Sankey who talked about when they tried to get more exclusive, they always ran into legal and political problems. Most likely, I think they just spend a lot of schools into irrelevance.
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Well there was the unsportsmanlike on Kentucky where he drove the guy down and tackled him blocking. It could have been both ways, but probably should have been just on UK. But after that was over a different Georgia player comes over and shoves the UK player down right by the refs. That should definitely been unsportsmanlike, but they didn't call it. Yeah. I've seen a lot of that this year.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41226997/sources-boise-state-four-schools-set-join-pac-12 Another discussion of it. Separate article, said the 2Pac was relying on their consultant Navigate who said their deal would be worth about $10 million a school. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41230791/pac-12-conference-expansion-adding-four-teams-mountain-west
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Don't remember the exact numbers, but there was one year, the top Texas player we got was something like #15 in the state and I think A&M got only 1 of the top 11 and OU 1 of the top 11. The next year, Texas, Texas A&M and OU got something like 8 of the top 11, dominating in a way I don't remember happening. UT hasn't done quite as well since then, but its not as bad as it got before. And we are in the running for 5 star players around the country. I think we just picked up the #1 safety in the country for 2026. He plays in Georgia.
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You weren't watching the Texas recruiting closely. The difference makers were going out of state. We got plenty of good players, but the great players started to elude us. A lot of that had to do with the 4 team playoff. But a lot had to do with network's focusing on the Big 10 and SEC while paying limited attention to the Big 12 and ACC and ignoring the Pac 12.
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