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1 minute ago, BradInATX said:
I hope this is correct. I hope the sound bites aren't Law and Order and Trump painting Biden as extreme left and whatever else I've forgotten. Because in 2016 we all thought the narrative coming out of the debates would be Trump's uncorked insanity, and it ended up being "no you're the puppet" and "because you'd be in jail". He's a slippery motherfucker.
Disclaimer - I have full blown 2016 PTSD and might probably be wrong here. I hope so.
Yeah dude- you are wrong and your PTSD is making you more fearful than you ought to be. It was a skull- fucking. Not where Biden was great or outstanding or anything but where Trump literally skull fucked himself for 90 straight minutes.
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29 minutes ago, BradInATX said:
Trump dying and becoming a martyr is possibly the worst case scenario. Dems, I love you people, but sometimes you fuckers are terrible at the long game. He needs to be voted out and destroyed before he dies if we want any chance of squashing this nonsense long-term.
Yeah buddy- you get it. Every elected republican or anyone sane that wants a center right government is rooting for a trump loss, and then if democrats could go ahead and jail him and make him a martyr while removing him from the chess board that would be outstanding for the GOP. Maybe their only chance to not be a permanent fly over country minority party for a generation.
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That was such a sad performance.
Biden called the sitting president of the United States a clown, to his face, and completely and totally had the moral high ground in doing so, and nobody blinked- that’s how terrible and unhinged Trumps performance was.
It was as if he had no idea what he needed to do to win, or if he did he had clearly no self control to make it happen. Just dumb, mean spirited, rude and lacking in any decorum or forward looking ability to process what he needed to accomplish.
Worst debate performance I’ve ever seen, and that was by miles and miles worse than anything from the 2016 primaries and general election debates that he participated in.
The idiots in team Trump gave Biden the lowest bar anyone has ever had to clear and then Trumps performance made it literally impossible for Biden to step on his own dick which was the only way Trump was going to win the election.-
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42 minutes ago, Helobious said:
This series should put to bed the misconceptions about my baseball knowledge. The Indians were never for real and this game is proving it. Bombers are all fucking over their ass.
That’s right- because a 3 game series in baseball is dispositive to prove definitively who is better in baseball.
Note- I do agree with you that the yanks are better, but a 3 game set means nothing.-
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16 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:
I can’t imagine it mattering much.
i seem to remember senator warner of Virginia making an extremely nasty sandwich during quarantine and he let people watch him make it on zoom or whatever it was.
it ended up being a nothing burger. He should win easily.
That’s how I’d bet as well. So when does it become a Dukakis in a tank moment?
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So- I’ve long had North Carolina in the almost certainly Democrat column for Senate. Did Cal step on it badly enough with his BarBQ tweet to actually matter. I see lots of people there mocking him. It’s pretty cringe inducing I’m sure for people from there.
basically- he’s got on an apron and fancy Hot dog buns and a spatula on a gas grill with a caption that says something like - only thing better than Bar B Q is winning this senate seat.
I can only assume this comes off like a Texas Pol endorsing liquid smoke for their brisket.
Could this cost him a couple points? Is he not actually from there? His campaign staff not from there. Does shit like this matter at all? Only if it reinforces some other pre-existing narrative?
how does Dukakis in a tank become Dukakis in a tank vs no big deal?
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On 9/24/2020 at 12:33 PM, Blotto said:
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2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:
I'm old enough to remember the "unskewed polls" of 2012 on Shaggy.
I Member. I used to get way more negs from conservatives than liberals. For laughing at shit like that.
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11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:
Well then they are joining the right team since they are anti-American.
As I said- the sorting continues. Some people see arson, Molotov cocktails, areas like the CHAZ and cops being shot and don’t care about anything that came before that. Most people don’t do nuance very well and think pretty simplistically. I don’t think that makes them anti-American but obviously YMMV.
note- all that stuff happened associated with protests it’s undeniable and some people see that and stop there
when a couple cops get shot in watts and people celebrate it makes me think- how bad must cops be in that neighborhood that makes that the reaction of its citizens. Others don’t go beyond- that’s terrible I’m voting for the law and order group
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16 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:
stupid question alert - is there any rational person who didn't vote in 2016 and is getting off the sidelines and voting trump in 2020?
i mean, i know there will be plenty of these people. i know they exist. but what goes through a person's brain who was indifferent enough in 2016 but has seen something over the past 4 years that says, yep, that's my guy. i totally understand getting off the mat and voting against hillary. we all know how unpopular she was, and the trump/fox/rnc machine working against her for over a decade. but biden doesn't really have that.
i'm not naive enough to think that every one of these people is voting dem, but come on.
I know of two such people. I’ve heard it’s 4% of the country- which is almost nothing. It’s an odd person indeed. The ones I know, anecdotally, are conservative Democrats who never were liberal but had inherited the D vote, and are not comfortable with the protests.
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21 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
Turner's graft isn't the embezzlement. It's the handouts to friends and families expected to win city contracts and do business. This isn't the kind of taxpayer theft that really fucks us. However, I mentioned it because he does dabble in the other, and the idea is to send people to prison so they stop abusing the system. That's key to fixing the problems.
I think waste is much larger then 200 billion. But I can't fact check that shit. But I would be willing to wager that the savings alone could fund one or two majorly broken systems in the united states, such as educated or health care. It's not a cure all, but if you feather it with common sense tax reform and closing so many tax loopholes, actually going after people who don't pay their fucking taxes, and a few other things...now the ball is rolling.
Sure. It's not fact checkable. It's just something you'd have to do and see what the answer is- this is just me speculating.
I run a business I have almost nothing to do with. But I keep the books and the people are on profit share. They were like- I don't understand- why aren't we profitable. I knew we were going out to too many lunches or spending too much on stupid shit. I was like- nah- that's not it- we can't really spend our way into lack of profitability- most of our costs are baked in. We went over the budget line by line for 3 months and they found $2,000 or $3,000 that they could excise. This is on a $65,000 a month budget. I told them basically- don't worry about that shit- it makes your lives and the employees lives a little better (premium coffee service buying lunch for the office once a week when we are busy- cleaning crew coming 2 times a week so they don't have to do it) almost all of our costs are pretty structural to running the business. Go focus, instead, on landing 2 new customers next month and grow revenue $10k instead of cutting costs 2k. They got it. I suspect the federal budget is much worse but still operates the same. -
16 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:
It would have been out number 2. Buxton was saying “I wish a MFer would.”
It's acceptable to make the second out of the inning at 3rd base. It's worth the risk b/c of the groundball or sac fly that can get a run in. that ball hopped 18 times in the infield. Bregman should have given it a go.
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But by the by- Bregman has to get to third last inning or die trying. It's a 1-1 game if he makes it there as Yuli drives him in.
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Yeah man, Reddick is wearing the goat horns today big time.
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7 minutes ago, immamac said:
Oh you mean for a period of decades at a time? The part of the American government that is so beautiful is that roughly every 4 years or 8 years max there is a political cycle we can go through.
Any single ideology being in power for too long is going to be completely ass tier. Communism is only great until it isn't. Socialism is only great until time gets in the way! Liberalism is only good until we don't get to keep any of the money we make and turn into socialists! Conservatism is only great until we miss the boat on regulations that needed to exist forever ago!
Wake up, I'm not saying everyone gets on board with this ideology for their entire life, I'm saying what do we think this approach can do in 1 country in the near term in the USA or you know...don't and just keep voting for team red and team blue who have no ideology whatsoever and just play to win and enrich themselves. Everyone knows Oligarchy is the best way to run government and then ideology doesn't matter because the ruling class just dictates what the sheeple need instead of them letting the governors know what they need!
I'm in favor of the Oligarchy you described. How do I apply to be an Oligarch? I think that's essentially what Aristotle argued was the best form of government- enlightened monarch/enlightened oligarchy. It simplifies a lot of the messiness involved in letting the sheeple have any input. The only catch is that whole enlightened part.
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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
There was an article I read years back that I can no longer find (I've tried) discussing one military commander who was so fed up with waste he was going to report it, and fix it, and streamline it. Then, once he dug in, he buried it because he said if the American people got wind, they'd never vote another red cent for the military, it was that bad.
Here's the thing, I'm pretty sure we could have desert all the time. And when I say cut the military, I don't mean cutting the number of soldiers. I mean cutting the miles and miles of wasted money that gets lost in the system. But the things you're suggesting will be extremely painful, and extremely difficult to implement and will make many people unhappy. Is it shutting down some bases and expanding others to be more efficient? That will get politicians voted the fuck out of office, so they will have to be made to do it kicking and screaming.
The thing about waste, and graft, and everything else, is that it exists everywhere in the government but but it's not reported or prosecuted because politicians at all levels are in on it, or they're be blamed for it regardless so it's not in their interest to shine a light on it. Sylvester Turner, the mayor of Houston, is one of the most corrupt and dirty motherfuckers in the game. The vegetables you talk about being forced to eat come in the form of having to disinfect the entire system with sunlight. Politicians will be voted out. Some communities will suffer, lots of people might have to move, folks probably need to go to jail to fix the system.
You focused too much about military spending, when it was an example. The waste is everywhere. Even before Betsy Davos started fucking with schools, did you notice most public schools particularly in urban areas were shitty? Why do you think that is? It's because school districts are notoriously, NOTORIOUSLY easy to embezzle from. Urban and wealthy alike. That kind of graft isn't necessarily taking place at the highest level, more likely local. But it all needs to be identified and prosecuted. Would you be surprised to learn that most places could actually have well funded schools if we just fixed the holes that currently exist (both in theft, money distribution, taxation, regulation, etc)? I can't give you a supporting article, but I but some simple changes to funding (maybe not entirely based on property taxes of a district) and federal distribution could fix our school systems without costing much additional funding.
But the pain, the pain involved in a real accounting of just how fucked up things are would be extremely painful. But it would be long term beneficial, both for America to see how the sausage is made up close as well as the benefits the services themselves being improved upon would remedy long term.
I'm all for the most painful and uncomfortable audit we've ever had into any level of government spending. I'd welcome it wholeheartedly. It's all our money and if it's thieved from us we are all worse off for it, as well as it robbing us of ways to improve peoples lives and outcomes. And- nobody wants extra money from me? And maybe Sylvester Turner has to eat a shit burger along the way? Well sign me up- I'm certainly not in on any of the grift- I'm one that is harmed by it.
But, I think if you squared everything away (and I recognize you weren't merely talking about the military but picking that out b/c it's the easiest/biggest target in the budget) at every level of the government you'd find billions upon billions of dollars. And that'd be cool. And I support your platform to do that. But the debt is measured in Trillions, the deficit is roughly a trillion a year, and the shopping list for the progressives runs into the tens of trillions over the course of their programs lifetimes. I think you'd find 100 billion a year in waste. Maybe 200 Billion. So, lets do it. It's worth doing.
It's funny, my mom was bitching about how awful and corrupt Turner was and I was basically yawning about it. She was like- he's wasting tens of 100's of thousands on personal stuff and we can't get our potholes fixed. My response was- it takes $3,000,000 to build a mile of roads. I can't imagine Turner junkets are a pimple on the ass of the Houston overall budget. I'm going to continue to be more or less happy Houston has Turner as a mayor, b/c while he's focusing on feathering his own nest in a small way we don't see rampant crazy shit going on in our city like we do in Austin or Portland- so I will call that a win and leave him to it.
Maybe I'm incredibly naive and he's stealing 10's and 100's of millions and not just a small level of 'run of the mill graft' and I'm completely wrong.-
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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:
He’s Hobbs, I’m Hobbes.
Sorry. Hobbes on Hobbs violence.
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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:
wat
Da Hobbes is straight ticket voting Blue. He suggests that we shouldn't let old people vote. That's the Hobbes on Hobbes violence you walked in on .
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Just now, WBT said:
looked like Reddick could have gotten to that
Got caught completely in between like a ninny. If he fields it cleanly they have the guy at the plate. Or, like you said looks like he could have gotten there.
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26 minutes ago, HillaryFan420 said:
Would McCormick even be a downgrade to Reddick at this point? This dude sucks.
Would Mez be a downgrade from Reddick? no.
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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
There's so much fucking monetary waste at every, and I mean every level or branch of the government, we have more than enough money to do most of the shit progressives want and still pay down our fucking debt, but it doesn't happen. THAT is a political ideology I want to follow. Seriously, finally own up to your failures, and stewards and admit the Military pisses away billions upon billions of dollars per year. Now do that exercise everywhere.
I don't think this is true at ll. It would be wonderful if this was true, b/c it would essentially mean that we don't have to make any tough choices and we can have whatever we want and cake is slimming and broccoli is bad for your health- so eat dessert instead of your vegetables.
I'm not disputing that you can make serious cuts to the military. But you could cut the military to zero and still be running a deficit, let alone getting into paying down debt, and lots of military spending is on troops- it's a jobs program and a step up the ladder for many poor kids- both out in the sticks and in the inner city, and to the extent that it does that it's pretty fucking valuable as a social works program and creator of hope and opportunity and forging of character.
I'm open (and would truly be thrilled) with the idea that you are right and I'm wrong, b/c holy shit that would make things so much easier and better for everyone. I don't think that we can Dave up the budget though and get rid of commercials that make us feel good about buying our cars so that we can get a jobs program passed, but if we could I'd be happy to see the math on that b/c that would be awesome.Keep in mind- we are running trillion dollar deficits on 4 or 5 trillion budget spends, so even cutting the military down to nothing doesn't get us to positive. I know you said start there- but look man- health and social security are damn near half the budget and there just isn't that much waste, fraud and abuse to move the needle there I don't think.
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17 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:
Welp... we suck and playoffs are getting old hat as an Astros fan. but it’s still playoff baseball and I’m wearing out my carpet, pacing back and forth
First time I've ever not felt this way in the playoffs. I envy you. I wish I felt that way right now, it's what makes it fun.
I'm chalking it up to the goofy ass 60 game season with all the weirdness.
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16 minutes ago, ndawg said:
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it, but I've never heard of "progressive conservatism." I'm sure now that I have been exposed to it, I'll start spotting it everywhere.
My main criticism of the political left in this country (and I'm definitely a lefty myself) is that they can talk about what outcome they want all day long, and usually have reasonable plans for bringing it about, yet they often don't really think through unintended consequences.
I don't think today's conservatives are a really good example of a helpful "conservative" perspective, but if we had good conservative thinkers, they would serve an important function of raising the bar for selling policy change. I'll take a slower rate of progress in exchange for a drastically lower likelihood of missteps. The wrong approach to solving the right problem doesn't help anybody, and eliminating waste (bureaucracy, budget, etc.) creates net value for the citizens. Basic management theory, really.
Plus, the term "progressive conservatism" throws a metaphorical bucket of ice water on the heads of people who are stuck inside gross oversimplifications.
I'm pretty sure that the Venn diagram of things that you and I would normally agree on as a manner of policy has very very very little overlap, but this post hits me right exactly where I am and my problem with liberalism and progressives in America. I feel like the prescriptions are really of the type that can fundamentally undue lots of good things that are right with the system and there are just a lot of unintended consequences in messing with any complex system. I think it's the job of liberals to point out what's wrong and how we can be better, and it's the job of conservatives to make sure we make those changes as small as possible, and as narrowly tailored as possible, in order to reduce the law of unintended consequences as much as we can and make sure we don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
I've always been of the belief that voting for conservatives is the safest course of action- because society pushes change at all times and nobody ever sees anything rolled back once change has been made, and I've always been of the opinion (maybe it's white privilege) that the status quo is maintainable in whatever form it exists, b/c we all get up and go about our day to day and the world doesn't come apart. The world feels like it's coming apart at the seems right now, so maybe that's no longer correct.
Anyway, thanks for this post- it's interesting to read from someone whose 180 from me on most issues. I too have never heard of progressive conservatism.-
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2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES: Joe Biden vs Donald Trump
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I could be wrong. But I don’t think I am. I guess it depends on if we are a well left of center country or a centrist country.
jailing Trump would make him a martyr and that would help solidify his support. Best to point and laugh and mock him when he ends up on the end of an electoral college and popular vote ass fucking. Speaking as what I think the Dems ought to do.
As a conservative Never trumper I’m all for y’all jailing him.