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It’s very interesting how the status of some of these dudes is impacted by kickers.
- Scott Norwood misses. No champ for Jim Kelly.
- Adam Vinatieri makes the tuck rule kick. Tom Brady kick starts his run. Horrendous conditions then V kicks the winner in the Super Bowl.
- Mike Vanderjagt misses. Peyton has to wait.
- McPherson hits two long ones. Burrow has the “It” factor after giving up a 10 point lead and Tennessee blowing a 3rd and 1 at the Bengals 40 as well as a senseless interception at the hands of Tannehill to make the throw to a massively wide open Chase possible.
- Mason Crosby gets one blocked but Gould hits almost a 50 yarder in terrible conditions.-
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They said it during the game. It's not necessarily the blocking, but it's not having any hot routes by the backs/ slot WRs/ TEs. On one of those sacks in the 4th quarter, the Titans rushed6, all 5 OL blocked their guy, Burrow made 6th guy miss and then another defender got him. Where the F was the hot read?
You don’t necessarily need hot routes, or at least my definition of them. You’ve got man to man coverage. Pick one and let it fly rather than waiting for them to come open.
That’s not to say hot routes aren’t easier throws and the preferred choice. They are.
If you’re talking incompletion or sack, then often that’s on the QB when it’s a sack. A few of those sacks were on Burrow hoping he can something of nothing. -
i think a lot of people had Justin Herbert as the surefire #1 in a 2020 NFL re-draft, with Burrow as the second QB (with Tua a non-factor). Burrow is saying not so fast. Herbert is freakishly talented, but you can tell Burrow has that "it" leadership factor, plus the skillset.
Maybe.
But the K made two 50 yarders. The D got 3 picks including one taking points away and another giving them a chance.
And you know why the Bengals Oline isn’t great? Cause they invest in skill players.
Burrow will get the hype, but he wasn’t particularly special today. He may be. My guess is they’ll invest in Oline at the expense of defense. We’ll see. -
Not sure what to think of a guy (Thompson) taking on a leadership role that might not start if Brini comes to Texas
Leadership comes in different ways. And Roschon didn’t start a whole lot last year so you already have an example. Even if he doesn’t start, he’ll see the field. -
Will Anderson isn't the only problem. There is also the TJ Watt starter kit named Dallas Turner.
Oh I know. And as the esteemed ctj has pointed out Anderson is a bit of a unicorn a la Corey Moore of Va Tech (a good historical comparison I’d say). Anderson set the record for TFL since they began tracking per somebody who shall remain nameless cause I can’t remember. Even though I referenced dudes ranked higher, I don’t think they’re better. But maybe they’re close enough that there won’t be an intimidation factor. -
But Brockermeyer won’t be available for the spring game and I was told without him we should be looking like the ‘85 Chicago Bears.
But Bush is still there. -
If true, their ratings really must be dogshit.
Just double checked. I was wrong on Anderson. He did not grade in the Top 50 for pass rushers at Edge. I suppose it could be arguable that he was a benefactor of those around him. He did grade very well overall.
But good news for Christian Jones. He faced 4 Edge rushers who graded out higher than Anderson.
Casey was our highest graded offensive guy vs Baylor at 82.2. He must have been perfect outside of the missed TD to Worthy, the missed 4th down conversion with green pastures in front of him and the last series in which all 4 plays he chose a less successful option than a much easier but productive choice.
I’ve touted Kerstetters pass blocking several times. He does grade very well based on their metrics, whatever those are. -
A&M was beyond confident Bledsoe wouldnt qualify, it would've been a dog fight for him otherwise and they likely would've bagged him hard. Serious athlete. Today has been a good day.
Do you have any insight on Jaxon Player?
I’ve likened him to a Poona Ford as a sawed off interior guy who out produces his profile.
Just curious if we had any interest at all before he committed to BU. I know he’s a local Waco guy. -
PFF's grading for NFL is pretty uniform and good. Outside of the basics of snap count and targets for WR, there metrics for college are wildly inconsistent and therefore unreliable. Apparently, they know this and are working on it, but it's hard because a lot of it requires significant trained human power.
Where did you come across they are aware and working on it?
A couple examples that cause to question their college stuff: Think Casey graded 80+ vs. Baylor. Umm nope. Will Anderson was barely top 20 as a pass rusher.
But when you think about it, there are way too many teams/games to be very consistent. You’d need a smaller number of graders/reviewers to be consistent. I can’t imagine there is time for that.
I think we have a grader amongst us too on this here website. -
This might be the sunshine pumper in me talking, but with the number of blowout games Bama has had the last 4 years you would think he would have more than 44 career tackles or whatever if he highly thought of as a defensive player.
You might need to recalibrate your 44 tackles. If he does and has played many plays on special teams, then those defensive tackles come down. Or he just never makes special teams tackles.
If he’s valuable as a special teamer, Saban would want him another year whether he’d think he can contribute much at LB or not. -
Also, I just realized that my fucking bama friends, longhorn turncoats, will be there visiting and gloating as well. Fuck me, fuck you, and fuck this.
If you need someone to mysteriously and surprisingly show up and whip a little ass, let me know. Might even toss a few four letter subtleties at Steve too. If the mood strikes.-
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Genuinely have no recollection of this man who apparently started 13 games for us.
https://texassports.com/sports/football/roster/marcus-hutchins/5907
He and McMillon were both converts from the DLine.
Although Hutchins may have converted to DL then back to OL.
McMillon was good in front of Donta Foreman but less good the next year under Herman. Hutchins was never quite as good as McMillon, who I believe gave up football with a year of eligibility remaining. Hmmm.
Hutchins, Raulerson, Flowers, maybe No Contact, and wheelchair recruit made up the Arkansas Texas Bowl contingent upfront. There was one backup scholarship dude for that game. Those dudes had some decent games that year but totally fell apart come year end.
Least physically talented and equipped group in Texas history. -
I actually thought it was relatively clever and no one would have an issue if they got set.
The risk/reward was never there. He could have tried the tackle over without shifting to it, but I’m not sure either causes a desire reaction from the defense.
But you are right no one is discussing it if they do it right and convert. -
Not anymore anyway. Baseball used to. Football used to. 1967 the Colts were 11-0-2 but lost their last game to the Rams who they had tied earlier. Rams also finished 11-1-2. Two best records in the NFL. Rams went to the playoffs. Colts stayed home. Rams lost to the Packers. Packers beat the Cowboys in the Ice Bowl for the NFL championship.
I never knew that about the NFL in 1967. It seems like baseball division winners were not that long ago. -
you SHOULD be required to win conference championship to get in IMO.
Interesting. No other league that I’m aware of has this requirement.
But I’m not like others. College football is better and should not model itself after others. But this makes perfect sense. How you can be a National champion if you are not a conference champion? -
You've blamed Trent Williams three times (at least) for this vs blaming the mega error prone Jimmy G for not being patient and giving his in motion LT tackle enough time to get set. Even Shanahan put that one on Jimmy.
It’s on Shanahan. It was pointless.
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On a blitz where no hot route was run, and dak held the ball until he had to make an awkward throw instead of putting it up there in a 1 on 1 matchup
Yeah, that was odd. Every route runner was way down field. Maybe work the field just beyond the sticks. There was decent pass pro for as many dudes that blitzed. -
I did not see anything on Sanders' highlights that scream Edge. I'm not surprised that he wants to play traditional LBs.
One sack in over 100 pass snaps. Probably cause he drew double teams.
He’d fit right in. -
10 catches. 109 yards. 2 TDs. 3 games.
BIG May be over statement. But bigger than he was prior to that. -
I liked Dixon as a recruit. Apparently he had issues with the playbook last year. Perhaps a decent WR coach can fix that. Billingsley is actually a bigger need, than WR at this point. Not sure a TE on the roster has a single start. Sark uses 1 and 2 TE sets all the time.
On Dixon maybe the coach gets thru to him or maybe it clicks in year 2.
Brewer was a big threat in the last 3 games so maybe Billingsley gets more usage. I’m sure Sark has a plan. He could possibly function as a WR. But yeah we did run a lot of 2 TE sets. -
Uhm, teams always play a minimum of 2 WR’s at a time, most teams play 3 as the most common formation and 4 and 5 receivers are used all the time.
yeah- we have 1 good one. That’s ducking trash for a room where 4 or 5 guys are on the field at the same time all the time.
were you really impressed with our OL room when we had Connor Williams and a bunch of trash too?
what a weird take.
Sark doesn’t run many 4-5 WR sets. He leaves Brewer in damn near all the time a la the way Herman did. Then split some RB out too.
Washington is a decent player. As a 3 or 4 option, he can be very solid. Whittington is a very good talent. Yes injuries but last year was more fluke than soft tissue and weird stuff before. Dixon and Omeire are maybes.
My guess is we’ll get a portal guy at some point. Sark will probably only use 4-5 guys with two of them being primary targets. -
1. Your "taking reps" idea is colored a lot by hindsight. The main mission going into the season was to win enough games to positively impact recruiting. Looking back, we should have been focused on playing young guys and developing for 2022. Given the mission, the best guys needed to play until a 'plausibly spinnable' season (7-5) was out of reach, which was the loss to Kansas. Also needed to foster a meritocracy, so if Dunn was better to start the year, you play him. Barron became the starter at the end of the year anyway. Pretty sure Crawford was hampered by injury all year.
2. I agree with portal needing to be definitive upgrades, but only once the roster construction has normalized. Were not in the emergency 'there are literally no EDGE players' situation from last year that necessitated taking 3 JAGs just to fill a room with bodies. But, for positions where depth is still an issue it does make sense to take guys that may not be definitive upgrades, but who will for sure impact the 2-deep. And OU only would have had 1 RB without Gray, so they were definitely in better shape with him.
I agree with your general portal sentiments, but right now portal is a really effective tool to normalize and upgrade the roster.
Good points. I was looking at it more forward looking giving consideration as to how it impacted us this past year. Also I don’t think it was coincidence that Ovie and Davis came from places with a staff member so they were known quantities to an extent. The more years pass the less they will know about the transfers work ethic or locker room presence.
I wouldn’t say we are fully normalized from a roster standpoint, but there is risk at certain positions of chasing off younger guys with greater upside than the currently more mature guy. And it may be pushing a guy to 3rd team that gets no or limited reps versus the teaser 2nd team reps. -
That’s on the coaches for playing jags from the portal over young players with potential. Caleb Williams has potential to become a kyler Murray, hurts, and Mayfield. They were all transfers too.
Those examples aren’t apples to apples. Murray and Baker sat out a year. Hurts was a grad transfer. Hurts was pretty much guaranteed to start. That’s pretty much what I’m saying though. Choose the guaranteed starters rather than I hope they are upgrades. The good portal guys expect to start.
Then if you keep bringing guys on and relegate them to 3rd team, then I’d assume much of that would dry up. -
If you see a potential upgrade in the portal, you should at least try.
Some things to keep in mind.
Using Darrion Dunn as an example. Younger guys like Barron and Crawford lost practice and game reps in part due to him. Our investment in Dunn had a moderate benefit at best. That was year 1. Subsequent years may be a net negative.
Some of our guys were likely a step slower at times due to the new system. So guys who are “potential” upgrades are starting over too. Whether people like it or not, the guys in the system now, if willing to work hard, will improve so portal guys should be definitive upgrades. Take Morris and Gray at OU. Did OU end up in better shape by bringing on two backups and pushing the future down the depth chart?
And our portal adds for last year? I’m not sure we were any better with them. Culture maybe. I’d also assume if you invest heavily in the portal that if those dudes don’t get significant playing time that becomes known for future guys.
Personally I don’t want a program that is too portal dependent. Our approach to Oline was correct in my opinion. Maybe we got lucky with coaching moves and NIL timing, but it did work out.-
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Yep. And I think he was pretty great that year.