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Zhorn96

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  1. This shit is redonk.  UNC board of trustees is advisory… they don’t do that publicly unless they know the votes are in favor and they oppose it for their own reasons.  I expect the vote to approve goes through since the UNC President is the decision maker and is supposedly in favor, but this is some serious Game of Thrones shit.

  2. Despite all the headlines the past couple days saying there has been a shift, Cal peeps say nothing has changed and a vote is expected today or no later than tomorrow on formal acceptance of Cal, Furd and SMU into the ACC under the terms previously discussed.  Headlines the past couple days are allegedly click bait bullshit.  Now we’ll see if Cal insiders are full of shit or not

  3. 1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

    Cal insiders are the least connected and reliable "insiders" of any school in the country.

    we'll see.  Possible vote has been scheduled for tonight apparently...

    edit: Vote is in fact now scheduled for tonight.  If it proceeds, its happening gif time

    I don't agree with you on the donors/insiders, at least in the last few years.  If you're saying that Cal's athletic leadership (encompassing the AD and the support from the Chancellor's office) is the dumbest pile of shit in the known universe, I am in firm agreement.

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  4. 21 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    What could possibly change for those 4 programs? As long as they don't lose money, it seems they should support it to ensure the conference survives if and when they leave, but that theory seems to be the opposite in practice for some reason (i.e., USC/UCLA being a no on taking Big 12 teams, from what I read).

    FWIW, Cal Insiders are saying it is basically done (90+%) and has been for over a week, its just paperwork and details and while you never know... blah blah.  18 sports would compete in the ACC was the last I heard.  Other sports will have to stay in their non Pac leagues or find a new one and I expect 6 or so sports to be on life support (need massive donor support immediately to "self fund") or cut in short order.  Some of the delay was Clemson and FSU causing a fuss for a higher distro but allegedly, UNC and NC State flipped more than a week ago pending final details being sorted out.  The Big 12 stuff came out of nowhere to them, everyone felt like it was a media plant story to kick things along a little but no one was aware of any discussions with the Big 12 at all.

  5. 2 minutes ago, LTbear said:

    Don't wanna get ahead of myself but... maybe I could see Cal when a conference title in my lifetime. 

    C'mon man, you know that unless its Swimming, Water Polo, Rugby or Crew, Cal has no shot.  Even if they were in a League with UCSD, Panhandle State, Slippery Rock and Michigan Tech, they'd find a way to fuck it up

    3 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

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    much more likely

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  6. 50 minutes ago, USC Traveler said:

    Looks like Stanford and Cal have learned nothing in realignment.  They seem to think nothing will change.

    They thought the PAC (and media money) would always be there because they never thought USC would leave.

    Now they're going to go ACC with a 30% share than won't reach 100% until 2036.  

    What's going to happen when FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, etc all leave ?  

    FSU people like Bud Elliot think FSU is leaving next year.  If not next year, the closer it gets to 2036, the more likely the exodus becomes.

    Once the BIG and SEC take the top ACC teams, ESPN will likely push the 2nd tier teams like UL, Pitt, etc to the B12 and let the conference dissolve completely.  At the very least,  ESPN will use the composition clause (standard in conference tv deals) to drastically reduce payments to the ACC.

    Stanford and Cal are going to take $7-10m/yr to start, and there's a great chance the conference dissolves or gets hammered way down on revenue long before the Bay area schools start getting any real money.

    They are setting themselves up for absolute disaster- Cal especially, given their finances and lack of ND connection/hope for BIG.

    They would have been much better to get over their coastal elitism, academic snobbery and religious bigotry to try to be part of a BIG 18.

    I guess being in a pod with BYU and playing teams in OK, KS, WV, etc was too much for them.

     

    meh, I think everyone recognizes that 2036 is irrelevant at this point.  By 2030 all of this will be going on again and things will settle out.  Cal and Furd have zero shot at staying with the cool kids if they don't do this.  ACC gives them a 5-10% chance if they get their shit together and lean into their donor pool (a big ask and believe it when you see it).  Cal will get UCLA couch change money for at least a little while which will make up some of the gap but their leadership fucked them into this corner

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  7. 1 minute ago, 'stache said:

    I think it's legit if its the model someone posted a few pages back, that the "western wing" (either Stanford and Cal and maybe also SMU) would get a small portion of the media contract (SMU possibly none for several years) but they'll be allowed to enter into an agreement with Apple to generate additional revenue. I would assume that if it's wildly successful, any amount that would exceed everyone else's payout would be readjusted for equal payment to all in that scenario. I have an SMU graduate degree and would love to see them as an ACC member, even if the boosters cover them for 5-7 years (not my money, don't really care). 

    I was being facetious re: the fanfic.  And agree about the donor subsidies... those 3 schools have deep deep pockets if they can figure out how to access them.

  8. 19 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    I cannot come up with a single financial model that makes this make sense, except one.   If ND joins as a full member and the ACC gets the second NBC slot.

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    I mean...SMU comes in for free for x years and Cal/Furd come in at 60-70% shares.  That's $50Mish added to the pool of other schools.  Do they go uneven to shut Clemson and FSU up?  Or is it an even split for an extra $3-4M a year each?  Travel is negligible except for the new schools...1 trip out west for football every other year and same presumably for bball (maybe once is year) is negligible.  And Apple is definitely hovering, do they sign an auxiliary deal for another $1-2M per school for filler games (or maybe more)?  I dunno.  Shit is blowing up in 5 years anyway, so...

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