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Dahobbs

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  1. I've already answered this. 1) Reparations would create economic stimulus resulting in increased tax revenue, offsetting some of the cost 2) Reparations would replace or make unnecessary other forms of welfare, again offsetting some of the cost 3) cuts elsewhere. Yes.
  2. It isn't my leap in logic. You provided the reasoning: 1. Bad shit happened before 2. Bad shit will continue to happen Ergo Pointless to compensate for bad shit happening before It sounds like that isn't your actual reasoning despite your statements. Your next post suggests that in fact you think bad shit should be compensated if it can be proven to directly cause a harm. And it sounds like your issue with reparations is that you believe that slavery can't be proven to have directly caused current harm. Is that correct?
  3. You said that bad shit happens and will continue to happen, therefore no need to compensate for bad shit. That reasoning applies the same to a car wreck as it does to reparations. Again, the logical conclusion to your reasoning is that we should never compensate anyone for any harm. I assume you don't believe that and just are not articulating your beliefs very well. It may also be that your belief is not rational but rather emotional.
  4. The logical conclusion of your statement is that we should never provide any compensation to anyone harmed by another. I assume you don't actually believe that. At any rate, you'd be disqualified from jury service in any civil trial I'd be part of because you sound unable to follow the law.
  5. I don't think there is necessarily an appropriate amount. I don't think there is a way to calculate that in a traditional compensatory way. I think it is a policy decision we make based upon the effect of various levels of payment. As a random number, I might start with a refundable tax credit of $10,000 per year for 10 years and then do an analysis of how that plays out.
  6. I've already addressed that. It literally fixes one of the modalities of systemic racism. Why would there need to be any further consequences other than the correcting of a wrong? From a policy perspective, we could decide that slavery is unique and stop there. Or, we could decide that other forms of historical abuse and disenfranchisement cause current problems and deserve correct as well. I'm not sure why you think that is a bad thing.
  7. What's the difference between the former slave being awarded the judgment at the time and their heirs being awarded the judgment now? Legally speaking, there is nothing unique about that situation. No. Wrongful death claims are pursued by heirs or estate administrators. That can include spouses, parents, children, grand children, and other heirs depending upon the state. In addition to wrongful death, we also have the concept of survival rights of action. That is that causes of action you have don't die with you but can be pursued by the inheritors of your estate. So, if you're injured a car wreck and then die of an unrelated event, your estate/heirs can still pursue legal action related to the car wreck. Further, you're mixing up criminal and civil liability in a weird way. While civil liability can be predicated a criminal act, a criminal act isn't necessary. And, ultimately, reparations wouldn't be handled through our civil justice system anyway, but rather through tax policy, so I'm not sure why we're exploring this weird and irrelevant rabbit hole. War reparations have been a thing for a very long time. I also don't find the argument that bad shit wasn't correct before so bad shit shouldn't be corrected now as terribly compelling.
  8. Helping you move this over here. You can use the multi quote function to add a quote to any other thread. Again, I want to go back and point out that cyclical poverty isn't just an outcome of systemic racism, but is actually a modality of it. Remember, one of the more insidious aspects of systemic racism is that it doesn't require any particular actor be racist. So yes, giving money literally directly addresses a major aspect and contributing cause of systemic racism.
  9. You misunderstand. I'm not suggesting not doing financial compensation. I'm suggesting that financial compensation doesn't have to add to the deficit or increase your taxes. As I mentioned earlier, reparations as a refundable tax credit would a pretty economically efficient tax break. The majority of the money would go to working/middle class americans. That money would return to the economy fairly quickly, increasing tax revenue. Reparations would also partially offset some other federal benefits like supplemental income. While I'm generally skeptical of arguments that tax breaks will pay for themselves, I do think this sort of break will come close to it. Spending cuts (or increases on those making 1+ million) can go the rest of the way to ensure a budget neutral effect. I also find the argument that money cannot help solve systemic discrimination questionable. A large part of systemic discrimination is the cycle of poverty it can create. Breaking that cycle, you know, with money, will absolutely address one of the significant aspects of systemic discrimination.
  10. It doesn't have to do either of those things.
  11. Not any different view. But certainly anyone spending time worrying about reparations, caravans of illegal immigrants, or trans athletes competing in sports is definitely living scared. I'm sorry if that hits close to home for you. At any rate, as far as tax policy goes, reparations in the form of a refundable tax credit would be one of the most economically efficient tax breaks we could do.
  12. Yup. Personally, I think he got too far into a bit and then legitimately got sucked into elements of it.
  13. And? He is supposed to agree with the findings for some reason?
  14. To be fair, I don't think @Anastasis has any real principles on this board other than being a contrarian ass. He has generally been better outside of the cloakroom and that's cause here he just likes to troll.
  15. I've actually heard Biden speak. He is clearly plenty sharp and has great responses to questions. Giving the refusal to press charges, I'm quite confident the memory issues stated in the report are solely there as a red meat for Republican voters.
  16. I didn't question your alignment. I just think you're an asshole.
  17. Russia has never done anything wrong or to control American politicians and even if it has it really isn't a bad thing because America is worse. @Anastasis
  18. What? Global warming means additional energy in the weather system, means changing equilibrium, means instability, means in addition to warmer global average temperature, new extreme temperatures, both cold and hot, in some locations. It is sort of like how getting a big raise at work may cause some new spending patterns, including periods of having less cash on hand than before, but overall your yearly average amount of money is higher. Not having cash in wallet (say after going to the strip club) doesn't mean you don't have money elsewhere.
  19. If you didn't want to be so condescending, you could say that market forces drive universities to invest in better resources for students in order to attract new students. Further, prestigious universities have a desire to attract the very best students, and in order to do so against increasing competition, have to invest in additional student resources. Government backed loans and the inability to discharge school loan debt in bankruptcy have created a situation where lenders face little risk, increasing the pool of money available to students. That funding not only that more students can afford high education, but that many students can afford to invest more in higher education than before, further shifting demand side of the market. So, really, this is all about normal market forces operating in expected ways. It isn't about lack of accountability of non-profit institutions. It isn't about students nowadays are entitled. And it isn't about universities wanting to suck up all the government money for fun. It does suggest that maybe market dynamics aren't always the best way to allocate resources.
  20. I'm not the one arguing that the problem is students in the US today are entitled. You are. I'm not the one arguing that universities in other countries don't have the same need to renovate and replace buildings. You are. I'm not the one making assumptions about an entire generation of students. You are. Again, this was you: "No. The reason is the government unleashed easy money with education loans, and the piggies are gorging themselves at the trough. Schools will continue to suck as much easy money from the government as they can until the spigot is turned off. Schools build new buildings, create new departments, hire new teachers, all to attract more of that easy money. If the rich Prince shows up to my resort looking to spend money, I’m going to find ways to increase the bill until the Prince runs out of money. " "Only in America can student and teachers complain about outdated buildings. In other countries, they teach in buildings that are hundreds of years old and everyone gets the same education. American are entitled. They want the nicest shit and then bitch that it costs too much." Really, who is the one being condescending here? You are. I'm just calling you out on it.
  21. From the perspective of the universities, I don't think there is a difference. The projects I linked are exactly the same sort of projects that US universities are spending on. But by all means, continue your culture war based upon your assumptions and ignorance.
  22. You're under the impression that universities in other countries don't have the same need to replace/renovate older buildings? https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/sep/22/uk-universities-building-schemes-tuition-fees-new-students https://www.dw.com/en/german-universities-urgently-need-infrastructure-investment/a-50835885 https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/building-our-future/planning-and-consultation https://www.bristol.ac.uk/campus-division/about-us/campus-development/capital-projects/projects/ https://www.eib.org/en/projects/pipelines/all/20150653 https://www.kardham.com/en/News/Renovation_of_the_Valrose_University_Campus_in_Nice-00464
  23. Or maybe your over simplified analysis is incorrect. Certainly easy money has contributed to distortions in the market for higher education. But attributing it as the sole cause of increases in the tuition costs is simply not supported by the history or data.
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