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  1. On 8/21/2018 at 4:07 PM, Robin Masters said:

    Have a look at Wal Mart for a cheap deer gun. They are clearancing some Weatherbys in .243  .270  .308 and 30.06  They have synthetic stock models for $249 and some with nice wood stocks for $349.

    They also have Mini 14s for $399, a synthetic stock 10-22 for $124 and a take down 10-22 for $169 but those are mostly gone already. There's also some shotguns for $140.

    Check the first page, but then look back through the last few pages as well, new stuff still being found.

    https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-Official-WalMart-Clearance-thread-/5-2034658/?page=1

    Typically you click on the link for whatever rifle,  go to brickseek, then put in your zip code to see what your local wal mart has in stock. it's not 100% accurate but it's pretty close. I went to a store that showed a Mini 14 in stock, they couldn't find it. Went to another store with a cheap 10-22. Guy in front of me bought it, but they had a Mini 14 even though it didn't show one on Brickseek.

    FWIW the Weatherby action and barrel is made by Howa in Japan. Good reputation. The synthetic stock is American made I think, not sure about the wood.

     

    Holy shit this actually worked and I’m walking out of WalMart with a cart full of 870s for $139

  2. 3 hours ago, Horn21 said:

     

    Oh hai, mr. “I don’t believe you, show me the receipt.” Damn birther.

     

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    I mean this as affectionately as possible.......fuck you!!!!

  3. 2 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:

    Yeah, that was in the McMurphy comments to the one website a page, or so, back. She was reassigned and Smith was not punished at all. If she is talking things should get even uglier.

    [buckeye]SHE SUCKED HIS DICK! SHE SHOULD BE PUNISHED![/faithful]

  4. On 8/16/2018 at 11:28 AM, 4th and 5 said:

    https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/bourbon/small-batch-bourbon/knob-creek-single-barrel-reserve-120-proof-barrel-select/p/115174750

    this one has shot to the top of my list, I haven't done a side by side but I feel like it could surpass OF1920

     

    Gabriel’s outlet in San Marcos is going out of business, had the Knob Creek SiBS for 40% off $46, so $28, yesterday. Bought 3 bottles.

     Went to a party last night, damn near all the alcohol people brought had a Gabriel’s X% off sticker on the bottle.

  5. and here we go!

     

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/Shooter-charged-with-manslaughter-in-Clearwater-stand-your-ground-case_170853729

     

     

     

    Prosecutors charged Michael Drejka, the man accused of killing Markeis McGlockton in a shooting that has reignited a debate around Florida’s stand your ground law, with manslaughter Monday.

    According to the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office, Drejka was taken into custody Monday morning. He is being booked into the Pinellas County Jail, where he will be held in lieu of $100,000 bail.

    Drejka, 47, has avoided arrest since he shot 28-year-old McGlockton on July 19 because of the controversial self-defense law that eliminated one’s duty to retreat before resorting to force.

    Pinellas Sheriff Bob Gualtieri announced July 20 that his agency was precluded from arresting Drejka because evidence showed it was "within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified," which provides immunity from arrest, the sheriff said. He forwarded the case Aug. 1 to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to make a final charging determination.

    ORIGINAL STORY: No arrest in fatal shooting during argument over handicap parking space

    DOUBLING DOWN: Sheriff Gualtieri defends ‘stand your ground’ decision in convenience store shooting

    State Attorney Bernie McCabe’s decision to charge Drejka signals that prosecutors believe they can show by "clear and convincing" evidence that a stand your ground defense is not applicable in Drejka’s case.

    State legislators revised the law last year to put the onus on prosecutors to disprove a stand your ground claim instead of on defense attorneys to prove one.

    Several questions must be considered in deciding whether someone can be protected under the law when they use force: Was the person acting lawfully? Did the person have a right to be there? And was the person in reasonable fear of serious injury or death?

    The encounter between the two men started when Drejka confronted McGlockton’s girlfriend, Britany Jacobs, about why she had parked in a handicap-reserved parking space without a decal at the Circle A Food Store on Sunset Point Road near Clearwater.

    McGlockton, inside the store with his 5-year-old son, caught wind of the heated argument from witnesses. Surveillance video shows him leaving the store, walking up to Drejka and pushing him to the ground. Drejka then pulls out a gun and shoots McGlockton. He told deputies he was in fear of further attack.

    Gualtieri said Monday he supports McCabe’s decision. He reiterated that in order to make an arrest, the facts of the case would have to clearly show stand your ground doesn’t apply, which he said wasn’t the case here. Otherwise, Drejka would have been in custody while prosecutors considered whether they could meet the burden established under the law.

    That differs from a normal arrest in which law enforcement officers "establish if we have the elements of a crime without considering the defenses," the sheriff said.

    "This is very unique," he said. "There’s no other provision in Florida law that says we have to consider these defenses."

    The shooting reignited a national debate around stand your ground — and race’s role in how it’s applied. McGlockton was black. Drejka is white.

     

    TAMPA BAY TIMES COVERAGE: STAND YOUR GROUND CASE

     

    Family to Pinellas prosecutor: File charges in death of Markeis McGlockton

    Attorney calls Markeis McGlockton’s death ‘cold-blooded murder’ by ‘wannabe cop’

    Nelson, Crist call for Department of Justice investigation into death of Markeis McGlockton

    In latest ‘stand your ground’ case, a question: Who started it?

    In latest ‘stand your ground’ case, a question: Who started it?

    Benjamin Crump, the civil rights attorney known for representing unarmed black men who died in violent encounters, including Trayvon Martin, signed on to represent Jacobs. Five members of Congress, including Sen. Bill Nelson and Rep. Charlie Crist, called for the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division to open an investigation. State Sen. Darryl Rouson called for a special session to address stand your ground, an effort that failed on Friday.

    And all the while, rallies and news conferences cropped up nearly every day to call for an arrest, organized by groups such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and Black Lives Matter.

    Drejka has remained largely a mystery to the public in the weeks since the shooting. The Tampa Bay Times reported last week that he has been the accused aggressor in four incidents since 2012, including two in which he was reported to have shown a gun. He was not arrested in any of the cases and does not have a criminal history in Florida.

  6. On 8/10/2018 at 2:15 AM, HenryJames said:

     

    I have tried these cases. The prior incidents will be presented to a grand jury and at trial to show motive, rebut lack of intent,  to rebut the defensive theory and prove provocation to defeat the jury instructions of presumption of reasonableness and/or shall not consider whether he had a duty to retreat. He’ll get a self defense charge but without the benefits of the stand your ground law. Then it will be old school self defense law .... was the deadly force reasonably necessary to protect himself from the use of force, or threatened force, against him. The defense will argue it shouldn’t be viewed in hindsight, this all happened in a matter of seconds, that the event must be viewed from the standpoint of the actor, not after watching the video in slow motion 20 times. However, the jury will be poisoned by his prior bad acts and say no, the force used was unreasonable. Verdict: not less than manslaughter, probably murder.

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