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Ukraine should just bend the knee to Putin so that a few people on this board can go about their lives feeling safe. "Hey, Ukraine, can you stop fighting for your continued existence please? It's making some guys on Surly uncomfortable."41 points
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*Looks at Lindsey Graham tweet* *Looks at Nicole44 post* *Narrows eyes in suspicion*33 points
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I usually do not recommend believing what Russian officials say, but I think you start with what Putin said he wanted when he launched his invasion. If inclined to parse words, always assume he really wants something more or worse: - Recognition of DPR/LPR within the territories they claim for themselves - Ukraine to promise never to join NATO and NATO to promise never to accept it. - “De-militarization,” which at least entails giving back all of its modest Western tech (that was only fired at Russian tanks in Ukraine), but likely more. - “Denazification” which means at least the removal of the current government and a replacement with a Russian toady and possibly is also much worse. Putin won’t set the boundaries. So to sum up, the “reasonable” demands are to lose territory, let Russia choose your friends, make yourself supine and defenseless, and install a non-democratic regime that Russia will choose for you. People need to stop with the fiction that these are acceptable terms or that Putin would have ever been satisfied with less. He likely actually wants much more.32 points
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I just think it's great when former players come back to campus and give back to the current players. Aggie Network FTW.27 points
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protip: just because you say "no cr" does not mean you won't get a day off for posting cr shit in this thread. at this point i'm getting tempted to move it to cr. keep it clean, folks.20 points
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The US offered to evacuate Zelensky and he told them no. A small Ukrainian border patrol contingent told a Russian warship to fuck off. A little old lady walked up to a Russian soldier, handed him some sunflower seeds, then told him to keep them so when he dies on Ukrainian soil sunflowers will grow from his lifeless corpse. We’ve seen footage of countless groups of I don’t give a fuck Ukrainians walking up to tanks and APCs to tell the Russians to go back home. We’ve seen multiple sports and entertainment stars from the country drop everything to return to Ukraine to fight. Putin’s forces aren’t numerous enough. Right now he has 3 soldiers on the ground for every 1000 Ukrainians inside the country and just outside still ready to be deployed. That’s woefully low. The javelins and stingers being supplied are outstanding anti-tank/anti air single soldier platforms. Urban warfare will be a nightmare. Russian soldiers are not motivated. They’re not being supplied well. Leadership and training is poor. Yes, they have overwhelming force at their disposal, but their ability to execute is severely lacking on multiple fronts. As far as the point, we’re all going to die. I can’t tell you what’s worth it to you. I can tell you if I was Ukrainian I’d be over there right now risking my life as well. I’m not and I won’t, but I certainly understand the mentality.20 points
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Russia has decided to block Facebook, which is fucked up because how else will Russians get the Russian disinformation Zuckerburg won’t block?18 points
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SIAP. The last few days been like this Also the official St. Javelin site has nice stuff and has raised a bunch of money for charity aid: http:// https://www.saintjavelin.com17 points
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Yesterday the president and prime minister in the Czech Republic announced that no one who went to fight for Ukraine would be prosecuted under laws outlawing service in foreign militaries. It’s really hard for me to capture the mood in Central Europe now. Glum, angry, sad, scared, disbelief, anger. They have been magnificent in their response. One Czech told me “we heard the same things Putin is saying now in 1939 and 1968. The same words. We all wish we had fought harder and we are in awe of Ukrainians.”17 points
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Please don't. Hopefully those who are cloaking things up can restrain themselves. ETA: If folks can't keep CR shit out of this thread they should take a vacation, not cause what generally is a very informative thread to get borked.16 points
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Hey Russian, now that your leader has invaded a neighbor, made insane speeches on TV, and announced that saying anything out of line about his war will get you put in prison— please tell me, a reporter, what you think on camera.16 points
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Let's talk about whether Putin really was acting as a strategist and master chess player back when he took Crimea in 2014 or invaded parts of Georgia in 2008-- because I do not believe he was. Instead, he set himself on a path than almost inexorably led to where we are today and blew up bridges behind him. I am tired of the "offramp" talk, but to push the analogy-- he has driven into a cul-de-sac and the only way out is to turn around or destroy a house and hope you can plow through to another street. It's important to see what the 2008 "Bucharest Pledge" really was-- it was a no-time frame "promise" that Georgia and Ukraine would get into NATO. Now, NATO can do expansion pretty damn fast when it wants to, which Putin had seen a couple times since the collapse of the Soviet Union. He also, as the head of a formidable foreign intelligence apparatus, was clearly aware that multiple NATO states had to be prodded and poked into making a toothless promise and would have been happy to continue kicking the can down the road as long as there was a viable reason. And buddy, Ukraine could ALWAYS be counted on to give you reasons to doubt its competence or readiness to enter the Alliance. By fundamentally misreading Maidan in 2014-- accepting it as a foreign-backed coup designed to install a hostile regime-- Putin closed off the entirely more sensible opportunity of letting the anger burn off, letting Ukrainians fight amongst themselves and steal from each other, and most likely swinging back to Russia after one or two more cycles just like what happened after the 2004 Orange Revolution. He could taken plenty of over and covert steps to encourage this process along and could have easily cast himself as the more sensible, richer, stable party and given Berlin and Paris all the reason in the world to keep integrating with Moscow, slowrolling Ukraine into NATO, and generally letting Ukraine be Ukraine-- divided, unreliable, and neither here nor there. And by almost any predictive measure, that's what would have happened. Instead he annexed Crimea and gained almost nothing but national pride. He started a war in the east and risked his credibility and prestige for some extraordinarily unreliable local friends that he never wanted anyway. He pushed friendly NATO states into the unpleasant position of having, at least reluctantly, to routinely denounce Russian aggression and foreign policy as a matter of course. He picked a battle of wills with the United States that was always unwinnable ("promise you won't ever try to be Ukraine's BFF!). And he ensured that generations of Ukrainians, no matter how corrupt or chaotic, would always be corrupt, chaotic, and relentlessly hostile to Russia. Maybe most importantly-- his only real move was to continue to ramp up tensions or aggressions, or to lose openly and publicly. He decided for himself what "winning" should look like, told the world and the Russian people, and put himself in the position of going for the W or taking the L. No more playing for the tie. And it looks like he is taking the L.16 points
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Right. If you think the Russians invaded Texas and we’d say “well we’re going to lose so it would be better to live under Russian rule than die free” you’d be insane. Texas would never do that. I don’t think Ukraine will either.16 points
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I mean I know we cheerlead this stuff and all on this thread but there is nothing more annoying than self-important/"look at me" law students/young lawyers. Especially the Ivy League type. (Old Man Lawyer Rant)15 points
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I don't understand anyone going with the Clayton Williams' attitude that Russia will ultimately win so Ukrainians should just accept it. There are times in life that you have to take a stand even if the chance of winning is low in the short term. And sometimes you have to be willing to take a defeat for the right cause. And Ukraine will eventually win. Occupiers (almost) never win in the long run.15 points
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Oh, complete surrender to Putin's demands. Great. No more NATO. Also, whenever Putin demands something else, I guess we got to give in because it'll be cheaper. Whatever you say comrade.15 points
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According to my extensive 12yo knowledge of fighter jets (all learned from Chuck Yeager’s Air Combat flight simulator game), you can shoot down 10 migs with one F4 and then still have time to jerk off to CD ROM pornography.14 points
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To be fair, it's an American that has lost mind over the last 2 years. Telling someone they should just accept Russian rule and not fight for their country is not only crazy, it is incredibly arrogant and selfish. I know we would fight here. I don't know why we should expect less of the Ukranians. Unless of course you buy into the Russian bullshit that they are all really Russians anyway.14 points
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I love reading the DT thread and seeing some of the same posters who have screamed about how mask and vaccine requirements are the ultimate tyranny talk about how Ukraine needs to surrender.13 points
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Depressingly, we are not far from this reaction to facts in our own country.13 points
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I find it very telling of the low character of aggys everywhere that not a single complaint has come up about Fisher most probably covering up for yet another serial girl abuser. Because he can ball. Jimbo is a POS. And aggys are immoral.13 points
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No parent is getting punished for beating the shit out of someone who abuses their kid if I am on jury.13 points
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I think the size of the invasion pretty clearly proves that Russia never had any intention of reaching any sort of diplomatic deal with Ukraine. The idea that Ukraine could’ve negotiated to just give up the breakaway oblasts or for something similar is absurd. The only “deal” Russia was going to agree to was the surrender of the Ukrainian state.13 points
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Legit no CR here: Believe you said upthread that you’re pretty right leaning, which often makes me cringe because I expect to hear a lot of easily refuted nonsense…but it’s reasoned perspectives like yours that have me respect your conservative viewpoints and feel a legit, measured dialog would be possible and productive. Keep up the good fight against people who’ve legit gotten swallowed up in the hate machine.12 points
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You dumb fucks are making me miss Nickole's just-got-my-box-pounded-hows-the-war-going posts.12 points
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Just so we get it out there in plain language, y'all notice that literally every single position that is in Putin's interest, Immaculate Vibes/GRUHorn carries the banner, and has since he showed up on this board. Y'all all see that, right? We see you, GRU. You think you're clever. You're not. You're as stupid and blind as your masters.12 points
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It’s January 7, 2010, 11:30 left in the 1st quarter. Texas is driving and in a moment of delirious joy, I awkwardly jump up in my living room, fall, and smack my head on the end-table. I then fall into a 12-year coma. Upon awakening, I immediately check on my beloved Longhorn message board, Shaggybevo. I’m met with a single lunatic posting to himself and a startling amount of scat porn. Once I finish and clean up, I finally find my new Surly home to learn about the wonderful sports decade that I missed. We’re on our third coach since that moment? Colt went down? We keep losing to Kansas? In disgust, I turn away from the football board to see what’s going on in the world. Surely we’ve emerged from the economic catastrophe and are enjoying a golden era. I see several threads about a strange, deadly disease, a thread about war with Russia and a new Hitler, and two threads about the coming nuclear holocaust. I call my parents, only to find out that they’ve been brainwashed by some website that used to be for college students to creep on each other’s drunken pictures. The moon is a spaceship? Bill Gates is trying to murder us all to save us from the nuclear holocaust? Surely this is some fever dream and I’m still in that coma.11 points
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There is hope for an internal solution to Putin. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/zelensky-survives-three-assassination-attempts-in-days-xnstdfdfc If your own spy agency has people actively helping the enemy then in no way are you 100% secure in your power.11 points
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China has extensive territorial disputes with multiple neighbors far beyond Taiwan and has said they intend to resolve those disputes by force when they can and if they can’t get them peacefully. WRT Philippines, China builds fake islands in Filipino waters and then sends coast guardsmen to shoot at any Filipino boat that gets too close. They base their claims on Filipino, Malaysian, Vietnamese, and the entire fucking South China Sea on things like Ming Dynasty maps and written records. Up until last Thursday, Russians enjoyed significantly more freedom of expression and political dissidence than anyone in China, to go along with an overall higher standard of living. China is stuffed to the gills with party connected businessmen who depend on a synergy between the state, industry, and sanctioned corruption. State violence against dissidents and minorities in Russia is still not on anything close to what China does, which is truly industrial scale and goes far beyond assassinations of opposition leaders and spy-world defectors. In short almost everything in your post is wrong. China is still a far worse violator of human rights and if/when China decides to act on its rhetoric (which is reminiscent of Putin before 2004), global stability will be far more threatened.11 points
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This is a really bad take. China has whole ass concentration camps and orders the wrong kind of Chinese to sleep in the same bed as the right kind of Chinese after their husbands are sent to said camp.11 points
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