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  1. 2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    The difference between Hillary and Trump is their motivations.  Hillary actually wanted to accomplish shit for the benefit of the United States.  

    Trump just wants to promote himself and not get punished by daddy Putin. 

    You know what, you’re right.  When I think of Hillary I think of her pure intentions.  Altruism. I’m tearing up right now just thinking of her selflessness.  

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  2. 47 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    I love Bourdain.  I used to think the way he did.

    But he was wrong.  I know such people.  I'm related to several such people.  We've tried to understand them.  We've tried to listen to them, understand them, and reason with them.  It can't be done.  The Trumpkins do not speak facts, logic, and reason.  They speak only in terms of anger, cruelty, and joy in the suffering of others. 

    They can't be converted -- I'm not even talking about converting them to some other side of the political spectrum; I'm simply talking about converting them to a world of facts and logic.  It can't be done, so trying to do so is an utter and complete waste of time.  100% waste of time.  Effectively ZERO Trumpkins will ever change.  They have tied their entire self-worth - and there ain't much there - to the success of their orange God.  That means that they can never back off of that, because that would admit failure, and deplete the minimal self-worth that they have.  They'd sooner die.  They NEED to see others suffer.  They NEED to revel in cruelty.  They aren't going up.  So others must suffer.

    Time to speak their language.

    And the country will be destroyed because of it.  The cycle can't end.  It can only get faster, and worse.

    You’re an angry, sad man.  Maybe you should move to Europe with your daughter. I hope you can find peace.  

  3. 26 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Meh.  Mine see clearly how we've fucked it all up.  We've also raised them to have a global perspective, travel, experience other people and cultures, etc.

    As a result, at least one of my kids has little interest in living out her life in this country.  She'll most likely end up in the EU.  I'll hate the fact that she'll be that far away.  But I can't blame her.

    We're a fading empire, almost entirely due to self-inflicted wounds.  We'll continue to be a "house divided" for decades to come.  The historical selling points of life in the good ole US of A ain't as persuasive as they once were.

    Man this is a negative attitude.  I’m actually  kind of impressed.  

    To me, the fact that we are a fading, decaying empire isn’t a reason to run to some place with equal or worse problems. Our country is still based on the best framework of government created.  Whatever upheaval happens the next 10-20  years I hope to be a part of a rebirth of sorts.  

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  4. I scrolled over the 100th ACA/healthcare debate.  It looks like BernOrange touched on the biggest point.  As long as our currency is the global reserve currency then we are gonna be on top.  How long we stay there is up to debate.  10 years?  Less?  

  5. 9 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

    you contradict yourself so many times in your posts that you have to be a troll.  You're not even following your own spewed bullshit.  You earlier stated that Trump won the presidency so his is the will of the people.  Then it's shown that he actually didn't win the popular vote so you go with yeah, but he still won. Now you're in a unique storm phase. F'k you and your stupid posts--I'm not playing your tired, lame ass game anymore.  Ignore.  

    Sorry to hear that, little buddy.  

  6. 51 minutes ago, scottsins said:

    The “one generality you get” isn’t even correct.

    Wow this is a great opportunity to enlighten someone then.  

    Again I have said at least a couple times that I’m naive on the details of international trade.  When I asked how these agreements were agreed to and how to know when they should be changed I’ve gotten some haughty comments.  I get it, it’s complicated, maybe too complicated for explanation here.  Those articles Mojo linked had some good points, they also had some comments like “everybody has some tariffs”, and “it’s complex”.  Makes me think it’s not so clear cut and there’s trade offs like many things in life.  

    I guess I still don’t see why Trump suggesting figures need to be looked at again or deals need to be redone is the end of the free world, other than he’s being a dick about it. I’m sure the titans of business and finance on this forum have termed contracts or reopened negotiations on deals before. Is this not different?  How are these deals reopened?  

  7. 17 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    I've seen numerous counter-arguments in the news.  The only people who would think this exclusively watch FoxNews in the morning and at night. 

    Great.  Could you link them please?

  8. 7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Are you serious?  Do you understand that there is a multinational accounting book which must be acknowledged when these things are discussed?  Trump is less qualified than the average UT sophomore to speak or (worse) make decisions on these issues.  He sees "trade imbalance" and "external tarriffs" and flips out when he has no idea of the ACTUAL money flow involved, both internal and external to EACH country in question.

    God damn this is frustrating.  This absurd proposition that all academia is fraudulent and that no accumulated knowledge is worthwhile is infuriating.  This is complicated stuff.  It may or may not at any given time be in the "best interests" of Joe Blow on the street but I GUARANTEE you that Trump has no concept of the issues at hand.  What's sad is that his handlers might, at least at some level, and their end game being aligned with his will result in an unfettered destruction of decades of hard work, some good, some bad, but all reasonably well-intentioned.

    I am serious.  I bet 98% or more of people have no idea how trade terms have been settled.  When it was settled that China taxed our cars at 25% and we taxed their's at 2.5% that's on the books and any deviation is big negotiation I guess.  How did we come to those numbers?

    I didn't bring up anyone in academia.  I'm sure there's a reason for the numbers being the way they are.  I'm not sure why it's such an unforgivable sin to revisit them.  

  9. 23 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    No there's not.  The Ds and Rs share the same neoliberal war party platform. They share essentially identical economic and foreign policy. They curtsy and bow to the same corporate interests, with few exceptions. They are both statist parties that view the government as a tool to implement their own interests and chosen vision of morality. We should all chuckle anytime someone lets the terms small government Republican or progressive Democrat drop out of their mouth. 

    You’re 100% correct.  And I’ll share this point, but not who it’s from because that will upset people.  Doesn’t make it untrue, but you can throw the mainstream media in with establishment.   They’re all bought and paid for.  

     

    “The only time the liberal media called Trump presidential is when he ordered a bomb strike on Syria.”

     

    And that’s the truth.  Probably a lot of the parrots on here said the same thing. 

  10. 2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    I know we get fatigued with the constant bombardment of Trump bullshit but this is the one week he has solely done the most damage to the United States, completely unprovoked. If there was ever a time to be cunty, it’s this week. 

    Nevertheless, go horns. 

    Great Horns win. 

    Are you must upset about G7 relations after trade talks?

    I’ve asked but no one can seem to answer. How is the proper equilibrium on tariffs for any good determined?  Who determines when things should be adjusted?  Are there sacred unspoken pacts that Trump is violating by advocating for change?  Is it just that he’s a dick about it?  Because from my experience in business, most of the time the stubborn dickheads are the ones who get the best deals.  

    Seriously, I wanna be enlightened. There’s so many experts on this on this board.  Help me.  My personal inclination is more toward free markets and trade.  

    I get this one generality.  Cheap goods from overseas, less jobs at home.  It’s a tradeoff.  But why is this such pearl clutching topic for people?  I’ll leave with this...

     

  11. 6 hours ago, scottsins said:

    “A sufficient number”. OK.  So you are NOT claiming that most Trump voters did so for your stated reading then?  That’s the assertion that you originally made which I was responding to.

    By a sufficient number I was just saying enough to put him over the edge and win the election.  Enough were fed up that they went with the wild card.  Almost no Trump voters deny that he’s a wildcard.   That’s a feature, not a bug. 

  12. 7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Because they finally had a politician that gave them license to do what they've been wanting to do, hate other people? While I don't think that is the majority of Trump's base, and absolutely believe (and can fucking see) that it is a huge part of it.

    Trump is so racist he outperformed Romney with blacks and Hispanics. And Fwiw better chance than not, that that improves in 2020.  

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  13. 21 minutes ago, scottsins said:

    Link to establish the “fed up enough to vote...”  rationale as the sole, oreven primary reason for Trump voters?  That’s a general and generous attribution you are making there.

    Trump was the result of a unique storm, but if establishment politicians had been doing an adequate job he wouldn't have been near the threat he became.  Then when it came down to it, a sufficient amount of Americans chose the total wildcard over the standard for the establishment (HRC).  I interpret that as people being fed up with the usual.  Otherwise why choose such uncertainty?

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  14. 5 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

    I don’t get the argument that Trump doesn’t reflect American values or is an aberration. He did win an election saying he would do this shit.

     

    That argument seems to imply that the form of democracy we practice is extremely flawed. 

    This is my big problem with people going apeshit over Trump, having a prolonged Mueller investigation looking for anything to pin on him.  So much of it is denial or trying to question his legitimacy.  He won.  Whether you like it or not your fellow citizens were fed up enough with same old politicians that they decided to roll the dice on the unknown. It's unprecedented and scary, but it was the will of the people. 

  15. 31 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

     

    Sounds about right.  Anybody who's been in any kind of board meeting or other contentious scenario can attest, you usually can get a feel very quickly for how things are gonna go.

  16. 31 minutes ago, woohorn said:


     

     


    Can't focus solely on labels like "tariffs" or you'll sound as ignorant as Drumpf. Some industries receive so many subsidies and other government welfare that trade would not be fair with no subsidies. Think about how the US cries about Airbus...

     

    Ooh it sounds like a complex system.  How does it find a nice equilibrium?  Do countries ever make adjustments?  

  17. So what are the correct tariffs to set?  If other countries have them on our goods, what should be our response?  Honest questions, because I would like the resident interenational trade exports to help me.  My inclination is tilted to the libertarian side where nobody has tariffs and it's free trade.  This is the real world though.  What's the best way then?

  18. 5 hours ago, David Dennison said:

    If Congress thinks someone misled them, they should do something about it.

    Narrator: They won't.

    Ah, now you’re getting to the point.  

    They might convene some hearing and take part in some kabuki theater about shutting down things like this, but it’s all lip service.  I don’t think anybody on either side wants to blow up their game.  Republicans are probably up to something similar now.

    Whataboutism is tiresome, but there’s truth behind almost all of it.  Both sides are hopelessly corrupt.  Elites on both sides think they’re above the law.   And they are.  Even a lackey like Ben Rhodes who helped engineer the deception and payoffs of Iran deal is rewarded with gigs on MSNBC and NBC as some beacon of truth. 

    Look at the Clinton email thing.  McCabe will get immunity, but the FBI throws regular people’s asses in jail all the time for lying to investigators.  Clapper, Brennan, Comey, people lie all the time to Congress. No consequences.  This is all without touching banks and financial system that skated under Obama’s watch.  A real champion of the people, that guy.  

    Anybody with even a passing knowledge of history knows that populism ends badly, but this is how you get there.   An elite that is unbelievably corrupt and above the law.  Unless and until the bipartisan corruption problem is dealt with in a meaningful way, I think we will continue further down this path.  Trump could be just the beginning. 

  19. 1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

    That's certainly one opinion. It ignores the fact that American society is saturated with God and that believers kill themselves every day.

    No shit believers kill themselves.  I still think it’s a pretty good theory. I need to look up stats but America is far less religious than it was even 20-30 years ago imo. 

    How else do you explain suicides rising with mental health awareness and medication at such high levels?  Unless you blame the medication itself?  It’s an interesting discussion.  

    iPhones and social media certainly contribute to people’s emptiness. They have artificial connections but less real ones.  The rise in suicides though is since 99. Predates both. 

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