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Anastasis

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  1. 12 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

    If the law bans them and there is a buy-back/exchange for 5 round mags that people know about and ignore,  then fuck them.  They deserve to be called felons.    Trying to get a balance is a good thing. 

    No reasonable person thinks that this reflects balance.  If this is where you guys want to go with the debate, you are only going to drive out otherwise reasonable gun owners.  The democrats will ultimately get the same whipping they got as a result of the nonsensical AWB. 

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  2. I really don't think that that is the national narrative.  You got R Senator from Texas proposing fixing to the NICS system, and a "R" administration doing things through ATF regulations that even Obama didn't have the balls to pull off. I think that there is a real circus mirror that the whole discussion is being seen through at the moment.  

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  3. Just now, jimmyjazz said:

    I'm now fighting fire with fire.  Too bad.

    And you will likely get your chance to do exactly that in 2020.  And we will see what impact it actually has. Unfortunately I am afraid that we will be sitting here having the same discussion in 2028, cause we have not addressed the real root cause issues behind this type of violence in our society. 

  4. Just now, TwiceHorn said:

    Here's my thinking on the semi-auto, center-fire, >5 round mag ban or restriction argument.  Fully auto weapons are effectively banned, that's the status quo, so that level of firepower is off the table.

    The thing that makes "assault rifles," however defined, effective at mass shootings is firepower, which is a combination of semi-automatic firing rate and magazine capacity.  There are totally legit semi-auto shotguns, hunting rifles and rimfire rifles (the majority of rimfire rifles sold are semi-auto).  This wouldn't affect those.  People who have a preference for AR-style rifles or even AK's can still have them, just not with a >5 round magazine.

    There would be a "confiscation" problem only with >5 round mags, not with an entire class of weapons.  It will still be a problem, but a more manageable one.

    The "dangerous" level of firepower would be curtailed.  Also, a lot of "yahoo-ism" on youtube etc. that makes "black guns" attractive to less-than-law-abiding owners. 

    Will this solve or even reduce the mass shooting problem?  I don't know.  Maybe they'll switch to semi-auto pistols.  Maybe Marlin 60s and Ruger 10/22s.  Maybe shotguns. Maybe lever-action rifles.   Study of it will yield some insight on a variety of issues presented by "gun control" more broadly.

    There are probably 100s of millions of standard capacity 30rd magazines in circulation. Shit, I got enough to last me and all my children and their childrens lifetimes in the closet 20ft from where I sit.  And you can print these things on your desktop. Magazine capacity limits aren't a real solution unless you want to turn millions of Americans into felons overnight. Improving the background check system and its inputs, requiring background checks on all transfers, and starting to address the real societal mental health issues at play are where we should focus efforts. 

  5. Nonsense jimmy. Myself and many others have proposed in quite a bit of detail on the other board a variety of measures that have the potential actually impact gun violence, both broadly and in terms of the mass shootings. I consider myself extreme in terms of many of my positions wrt to the 2nd, but even I am willing to support a number of measures at the moment that I believe could actually move the needle wrt gun violence. Because you don't see push back against some poster that I don't even recognize is no reason to abandon a reasonable discussion. This is a ridiculous line of reasoning driven by emotive knee jerkism.  

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  6. Just now, F250 said:

    Its usually just an argument between Bad_teammate and one of the Trump supporters where both end up arguing against any compromise.

     

    I bet it also generally involves italics. 

  7. I'm going hybrid next go round. Oven to get it to a certain point, and then finish to dark with close attention on fire. Best of both worlds. 

  8. 5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    It's a very vocal position.  I don't know what % it represents, but if it's the minority, then I would say the gun owners need to take control of the message.  Personally, I am pretty resistant to significant changes in our laws.  I think there are incremental changes that can be made on several fronts which together might have significant effect.

    Outside of some real wingnuts and people who like to argue from extremes at times (myself included), that is just not the reality.  It's not the reality in congress and its not the broader reality.  It's not even the reality at the NRA.  Maybe the GOA.  But see also, wingnuts. 

  9. 9 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

    I would wager that most people that post here are law abiding gun owners.

    Good, so most people here probably realize that  "no fucking way am I willing to consider anything" is not really the position of most people.  

  10. I actually appreciate the calls to repeal the 2nd.  I think that that is exactly where the debate should reside.  I have long been on record, if you want to constrain the rights of law abiding americans wrt guns, repeal the 2nd.  At least it is intellectually honest.  Stevens is right in that regard. I think that we should re-examine all of the BOR in the light of modern times and context.  Let's see where we really stand. 4th is probably right out. 10th. LOL. 1st will get a good working over. We wipe our ass with the BOR on a daily basis in this country, I actually like the idea of making everybody take a big whiff of the paper. 

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  11. It's delusion that there is not a significant number on the left on board with this rhetoric. They are getting bolder in revealing their intention, day by day. 

  12. 4 minutes ago, F250 said:

    He's high balling. You have to return with a low ball.

    OK, my starting is point is removal of suppressors from NFA. 

     

    That's an equally ludicrous starting point for a discussion on gun control measures. 

  13. 22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Let's start here:  let's ban private ownership of all weapons which do not require manual action to reload between shots.  Furthermore, let's ban all guns which could be considered "concealable", including all pistols, etc.  Legal ownership would essentially be limited to single shot long guns along with a select number of bolt action weapons, shotguns, etc.  All such weapons would be licensed and license renewal would be subject to passage of a safety course every 5 years.  Limits on possession of ammunition would also be implemented, and purchasing limits would also be instituted, both on a per-visit and annual basis.  Conformance would be tracked as we track Rx purchases of various legal narcotics, etc.  Attempts to circumvent those limits would subject the individual to felony prosecution.

    A one-year buyback period would be implemented in which the government would purchase all banned weapons from the owner at current list price, or at a published price based on auction or resale prices for those weapons that are no longer being manufactured.  Following that one-year buyback period, possession of a banned weapon would subject the individual to felony prosecution with a minimum allowable sentence of 10 years in Federal prison.

    How's that?

    I am all for placing significant penalties on any firearm related criminal activity, but the rest of this is a total non starter and has zero chance in even our current amplified state of affairs.

  14. Barcelona is fucking awesome. Maybe my favorite place in Europe so far.

    Sagrada is literally breathtaking when you step inside. 

    Bought bootleg barca jerseys on the Rambla.  The operation is phenomenal to watch.  Bunch of guys come up from the subway and set shop up and down the rambla. Popo starts creeping a few hundred meters away and they all snatch up their shops and disappear in a second.

    Everything that we ate was phenomenal. Everything. I still have dreams about squid ink croquettes. 

    Couple restaurants we enjoyed: Paco Meralgo in Eixample. Also had a business dinner at some place in L'Antiga Esquerra de l'Eixample. Didn't catch the name, but based on GPS coordinates I believe that it is a place called Granados on Carrer d'Enric Granados. Fuck I still think about the squid ink croquettes.  Did not have a single disappointing meal.  Service is european, but there is nothing unexpected about that.   

    Did a show at Palau de la Musica, had drinks and ate at alsur cafe across street.

    Did Montserrat, but wasn't really blown away.  Took a day of the itinerary and wasn't anywhere near the most impressive monastery I've ever seen.  Would rather sat in some random patio bar in the gothic for the day.

     

    Damnit, now I am hungry. 

  15. Judge, don't try to make sense of the trends in the improvement vs. land.  I had a property where TCAD transferred 100k from the improvement side to the land side over a two year period.  They don't care about anything other than the final number making sense.  

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