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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
PFF doesn't count time holding the ball. Still have all the winning teams left on the schedule. Let's check back in a bit shall we?
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Lol. You are moving the goalposts. I said that the reason they were attacking the way they were is because its ideal for mobile quarterbacks and Arch hasn't proven he can beat it. Of course you block inside out. Who is saying you shouldn't? weirdo! Kentucky brought pressure and we didnt identify it and hurt them on the back end. So they continued doing it. You want it to stop get the ball out. Its as simple as that. You guys did this same shit last year. When we couldn't run the ball it wasn't systemic issues we've had for years it was Quinn's fault. When Wingo wouldn't be physical and compete for the ball I was told it wasn't that Wingo was soft. No no no. It was Quinn's fault and we would see a different Wingo this year when Arch was behind center. When I said last year Arch didnt see the field and was holding the ball too long I was told I didnt know what I was talking about and I would see this year how much better dude was. Now here we go again. Discounting everything I say again as if I dont know ball. All you assholes were wrong and now you are scrambling to blame anything and anyone for this dudes shortcomings. The only person standing on business is @BurntOrange&White. Now you are flat put calling me dumb about how teams try to rush mobile quarterbacks when if you Google it you will get a return of plenty of highly paid people telling you the same thing. Honestly, im pretty tired of arguing with yall. Maybe I will just sit back and let the season play out and watch you guys scramble around and make more excuses. Especially when we play another team that doesn't have a strong pass rush and dude is still doing the same thing. You guys are exhausting. Dude is barely serviceable bro.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
So its your assertion that Arch has seen this same level of pressure every game, Ohio State? San Jose State? UTEP? and Sam Houston?
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Man what are you talking about? Wherever you bring pressure from you are vulnerable behind it. Same for how you bring pressure Codaxx. Everyone would bring pressure up the a gaps. Why dont they? Because that leaves vulnerable to simple shallow crossing routes that most quarterbacks would eat you alive with. Slot receiver sees lb pressure and simply runs a 5 yard drag. You know, like the one we missed Wingo on. That said, opposing defensive coordinators think like this. We have to try to keep Manning in the pocket but WE CANNOT allow him to escape to his right. He is a far superior passer when rolling right than left. So you remain super sound on your right. Maintain sound right side B and C gap rushes and get exotic in the left B and A gaps. They are sometimes rushing 4 but what those 4 are doing and where they are coming from is what matters. If we had Ty Simpson as a quarterback you best believe they wouldn't be coming after him the way they are because he wouldn't be missing Wingo wide open on a shallow crosser. He would be breaking their backs and punishing them from bringing bodies from the middle of the field right where he can see them coming. So yes, Brooks and whomever is at C are not playing great. But if you think that them being attacked isnt compounded by who the quarterback is and how they respond to that pressure then you are fooling yourself.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Feels like year 5.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
He hasn't been under pressure all year Hank and he still has been the same. Or are you forgetting that?
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Wingo is a generally low effort receiver. Year 3 and dude still has zero 50/50 ball catches. He loses every time. Arch thew him a perfectly winnable 50/50 ball that he made little effort on and luckily got bailed out cause the receiver didnt get his heard around. Go get the ball Wingo.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
That would be valid if we didnt have film of him throwing when hadtime also right? We do have that film too right?
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Dude. Attacking the interior gaps while not rushing past quarterback depth so they dont escape out the sides is and has been standard operating procedure for running quarterbacks all our lives. The LG and the C suck but their numbers are even worse because thats where our opponents are sending the extra bodies. Every opponent from here on out is going to try and keep Arch in the pocket. As they should. Its not rocket science.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Attacking the interior gaps vs a highly mobile QB is pretty standard operating procedure. They would've done the same last year too.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
I personally think Wingo is pretty trash and wish we would stop targeting him as much. Said the same last year.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Does Golden get a 1st round grade if he stays in Houston yes or no?
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
You are right. None of our current linemen will be playing in the NFL when they are done here right?
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Golden has good track speed but not good football speed. You understand the difference right? Neither did Mitchell who ran a 4.35. Some guys have good track technique that shows on a stopwatch but get caught from behind with the pads on. I dont even know why I have to explain this to you its been a thing since inception. So it matters who is throwing it to you then right? I didnt say that I said he wasn't holding them back.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
I say some dumb shit? Then you literally say dumb shit like it doesn't matter who is throwing to you? It absolutely matters. Not only does it matter who is throwing to you it matters where you play. Look at what schools all the 1st rounders come from. Now look at all the places the shouldve been 1st rounders come from. You know, the dudes with crazy skills but got overlooked. Golden doubled his receiving output coming here. He doesn't get 1st round if he stays in Houston.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
The fuck? You absolutely can train and run a fast 40. What is wrong with you? Plenty of players go to facilities specifically meant to train you for combine times. My cousin owned one in Arizona. My cousin, Thomas Lewis from Akron Garfield high school, who played at Indiana and was drafted 1st round, 24th pick to the Giants because he ran a 4.29 at his pro day, will tell you players train all the time specifically to increase there 40 times. In fact players will stay at these facilities for a solid month to prepare.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Lol. Golden came to Texas and doubled his previous productivity. He is the perfect example. He doesn't come close to sniffing the 1st round if Quinn isnt throwing him balls.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Golden worked hard with a trainer to get his 40 time down but he isnt some remarkable receiver. He is a try hard. I commend him for that but thats what he is. Had he never come to Texas he doesn't go in the 1st round. Jeremiah Smith is a 1st rounder if he played for Kentucky. Big. Fast. Eye popping catches. In my lifetime we've had one receiver like that and he was a headcase. Texas has been underwhelming all my life offensively. Quinn helped get Golden a 1st round tag. He didnt hold him back.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
We weren't as loaded on offense as you think Derka. Matter of fact we've never been loaded on offense. We've had an actual piece here or there but most of the guys drafted on offense from Texas have basically been on hype. You wanna see loaded look at Ohio State. Thats loaded.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Antonio Brown was a 6th round draft pick Brown.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
Nope. I think @BurntOrange&White is just irritated at the hypocrisy on this thread. Its well documented that he spent all last season calling Quinn a pussy and stood on business about it. So now when he says Arch is also lacking I can respect that because he was equally critical of Quinn. However, I am sure what he is irritated about is the same people who were blaming Quinn everytime the line missed a block or blaming him for the lack of a running game are now blaming those things for Arch's poor play. Its as obvious as day.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Golden is expected to come in and have an immediate impact as a first rounder. Helm is present and thats the most you can say. No one is outperforming what they showed in college or even close to it. Thats what you see elsewhere. Receiver at some mid level school gets drafted and its obvious that he just wasnt getting the ball like that in school. Antonio Brown or Greg Jennings come to mind. If your receivers are getting drafted and then are largely meh at the next level then your QB is doing a good job of boosting their appeal. Not the other way around.
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
You mean how we are basing Manning being good by his play vs the two worst football teams we played last year?
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Arch Manning: Scores every way possible
I have stated I do not want Arch replaced, but seeing Caldwell come in and get the ball out significantly faster without issue behind the same offensive line tells me that this line isnt as bad as we think it is.