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Posts posted by Patrick Bateman
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3 minutes ago, 52-80 said:
KD and Westbrook went to the finals as 23 and 24 year olds. In subsequent seasons one or the other were injured. That run was not indicative of that squads ceiling.
Spurs weren't a finals write-in. Their 3 turned 50 years old. But they had a good system, and Kawhi was on a break-out, with another UT All Star joining.
Then there were speculations of going back to his hometown with JWall, or Boston, neither of which brought a seismic shock that GS did.
With that, KD made himself one of the most polarizing stars across the NBA fanbase. And people think his derision comes solely from a small pocket of the 2 smallest markets in the NBA ?? It wasn't just the move, it was the explicit acknowledgement an MVP wasn't a "leadership" guy; beefing on Twitter against teenagers; and moreover, a reversal of personality that he had previously cultivated.
Whether a player is a statesman (like Dirk), a joker (like Embiid), or a tough guy (like Artest), atleast theyre consistent in character. People like people who are real.
So KD, like LeBron, as ultra talented stars, shoulder image problems entirely of their own making, and not from a singular move like swapping to 1 team
What run wasn't indicative of their ceiling? The Finals' Thunder had James Harden as 6th man of the year and an Ibaka who was a top 5 defensive force, before he decided he wanted to be a fake Bill Laimbeer. They were too young at the time and faced what was probably the Heat's best team in Lebron's run w/ them.
KD was upfront he didn't want to go home to DC and didn't even give them a meeting, it would have been a nice narrative but it wasn't close to a reality. If money wasn't an object, would you rather live in Boston or Bay area??? No need to answer if you've been to both.
Is anyone really disputing that KD is accountable for a large portion of his perception problems with the social media games? Does that define him for you? Or do you also see the 2nd best basketball player in the world right now? What is the point of your post, to review what everyone knows?
11 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:Why is there a question mark in the thread title?
If you read the thread, it's quite obvious some don't feel he is.... the may be a vocal minority but they exist.
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Maybe we'd be better with Michael Bolton shaping policy???
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4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:
LeBron definitely bears some blame in instilling a season-long (multi-season, really) culture of finger-pointing, eye rolls, and pathetic ass transition defense when things are going badly, but tonight specifically? Rodney Hood, George Hill, Jeff Green, and Larry Nance were on the court together w/o LeBron at times. What was he supposed to do? Inject them with his DNA?
It's weird.... when Nance came over he was a good garbage guy off the bench for the Lakers. Rebounds, energy on defense, ran the court and then he got banged up and fell out of the rotation really. He should be contributing more to this playoff roster and he isn't and wonder if it's him or the coaching staff....
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10 minutes ago, d2o said:
That Bennett pick was unbelievable. It was was pretty bad draft overall but DAMN no one thought Bennett was worthy of #1..........except the Cavs FO. They prolly could have traded down twice and still got him if they were intent on doing so.
Yea, that draft was historically bad but they could have taken Dipo, who was taken #2 or Otto Porter who was taken 3rd. Greek Freak was the best player to come out of that draft at 15 but I don't think anyone knew how good he'd turn out.... Almost literally any other guy in that draft would have been better than Bennett.
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PLAYER 2017/18 2018/19 2019/20 2020/21 2021/22 TOTALS $137,718,426 $139,521,659 $101,659,473 $0 $0 LeBron James $33,285,709 $35,607,968 $0 $0 $0 Kevin Love $22,642,350 $24,119,025 $25,595,700 $0 $0 George Hill $20,000,000 $19,000,000 $18,000,000 $0 $0 Tristan Thompson $16,400,000 $17,469,565 $18,539,130 $0 $0 JR Smith $13,760,000 $14,720,000 $15,680,000 $0 $0 Jordan Clarkson $11,562,500 $12,500,000 $13,437,500 $0 $0 Kyle Korver $7,000,000 $7,560,000 $7,500,000 $0 $0 Cedi Osman $2,642,857 $2,775,000 $2,907,143 $0 $0 Rodney Hood $2,386,864 $3,472,887 $0 $0 $0 Jose Calderon $2,328,652 $0 $0 $0 $0 Jeff Green $2,116,955 $0 $0 $0 $0 Ante Zizic $1,645,200 $1,952,760 $2,281,800 $3,872,214 $5,634,072 Larry Nance Jr $1,471,382 $2,272,390 $3,369,955 $0 $0 Okaro White $148,316 $1,544,951 $0 $0 $0 Kendrick Perkins $131,562 $0 $0 $0 $0 John Holland $75,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 London Perrantes $75,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 Marcus Thornton II $46,079 $0 $0 $0 $0 For those who are wondering what Cleveland's salary cap looks like.... They also have the 8th pick so they should get a pretty good player in the draft.
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Love gave 22 and 15 with 1 turnover..... He did his job but Cleveland has no other scorers or guys that can get their own shots. All Boston did is protect home court but the Cavs don't give one confidence they are up to the challenge this year. We'll see but Saturday is do or die.
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So one of the reasons given for the Cavs getting stomped in game 1 was the 3 other starters (besides Love and Lebron) gave them only 14 points.... Ty Lue decides some stategery is in order, inserts Tristan in the starting lineup. The lil' 3 score 11 points tonight... starting backcourt of JR and Hill??? 1-11 for 3 points and 2 assists.
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Jeff Green sucks..... plays no defense. No fucking grit to that guy.... soft as shit.
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It's fucking over..... Cavs with a deer in the headlights look. Boston is in their heads... they need some home cooking bad.
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Al may have just put it away with a potential 5 point possession....
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JR is 2-16 from the field in the series thus far. 0-7 tonight and 0-7 from 3 in both games...... That's probably a frustration foul.
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3 minutes ago, Message Board User said:
Considering just about every recent former Celtic (IT, Crowder, Sullinger, Bradley off the top of my head) has sucked since leaving Stevens' system, I'd stay the hell away from him.
You can't jinx a jinx..... Same thing with the Spurs, so he'll be fine.... It'd be like them trading in the Bermuda Triangle....
JR Smith with a really dangerous play.... In the 90's it would have been a normal foul with a fight after...
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1 minute ago, BigOrange1 said:
marcus smart is one of those players you'd absolutely love if he was on your team.
Yup.... he'll probably be overpaid or I'd love the Spurs to sign him and then try and fix his 3 point shot.... He'd be fantastic.
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Just now, Machinator said:
LeBron can probably take them over the top, but he needs someone to help take them back within striking distance. Korver was hitting those key threes in the Pacers series, but now he's coming up empty.
Love had a great 3rd..... I think I saw JR Smith on a milk carton though....
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Celtics have gone very cold.... this is some sloppy and ugly basketball to start the 4th.
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1 minute ago, ernest_t_bass said:
I loathe the non-basketball physicality that these piss fucking poor refs allow. Well, the league is more to blame. Two hands holding on to someone, and that’s just “good defense.” This is pathetic. Damn near makes this unwatchable.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou must not have watched basketball from around 1990 to about 2005.....
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10 minutes ago, pacman said:
I really don't understand why it is so difficult to just appreciate the time a player spent on campus and wish him well in the NFL.
I mean how are we going to keep the stereotype of our fanbase being entitled pussies going???? This is a new website, we have some work to do....
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3 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:
Just curious because I don’t know, but how would Phoenix getting the number one pick be good for houston?
Phoenix was rumored to be really high on Capela and possibly was gearing up for a huge pitch and offer, perhaps even the max. If they take Ayton, then they've solve their big man issues and may not be as hungry to throw a lot of capital at low post guys..... Just a thought. They have Chandler there on a terrible contract but he could take Ayton under his wing...
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Korver having a big half..... Helping Lebron out.
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Jaylon Brown just noticed the time (35 seconds) and he could get a 2 for 1 if he could get to the rim.... Drives and gets to foul call. 29 seconds left on the clock..... Impressive for a young player. Very impressive.
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Just now, Machinator said:
Celtics are weathering the storm pretty well so far.
Very well..... I don't think Lebron's going to go for 80 and he'll need to rest at some point.... Celtics just need to relax, play their game and not get rattled. Jaylon Brown making himself indispensable....
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OMFG Lebron..... That was crazy.
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Lebron tight with his shot tonight..... It's butta.
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Damn.... Lebron almost airballed a FT and then comes down and hits a contested 3 next possession.
Big Al with the slam!!!! Boston starting cold though....
Lebron back with another 3....
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