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Posts posted by Hagbard Celine
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5 hours ago, BrickHorn said:
21st century? Equating war with peace dates back to 1984, at least.
the ferengi alliance was organized 10000 years ago (earth years) so rules of acquisition 34 & 35 likely predate eric blair by 8000 years
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every able-bodied maga over the age of 18 and not employed should be arrested by ICE and forcibly chained to those meat processing stations
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where were the new york city police to oppose the gestapo?
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15 hours ago, OU Sucks said:
I always like to see how Fox News covers stuff like this...well, this story had been their headliner, and an article they had detailing the shooter was on the second row of featured articles as of just a few hours ago. Now, that story has completely vanished from the front page, in favor of articles like "Chick-fil-A fans 'shocked' by controversial cup change sparking customer outrage", "Former Team USA gymnast accuses Simone Biles of bullying her 'many times'", and "OneRepublic singer breaks ranks with celebrity elite over military parade". That's about as close to an admission Fox will give towards acknowledging the guy was a right-wing lunatic. In all the articles I've read on Fox News, there's still zero mention of the manifesto/hit list, even though the Acting U.S. Attorney confirmed that a hit list does exist and that it contained all Democrats long ago. There's also zero mention of the video clip of the conservative speech the suspect gave, zero mention of him being a registered Republican, and zero mention of his friend saying he was a Trump supporter. Of course, most people in the Fox News comment section are still calling him a Democrat and saying things like "lulz, Democrats killing their own".
Over on X, some are now going with the "this is a conspiracy!!!1" slant, so at least they finally figured out the guy is a right-winger.
if grok can be compromised there should be a way to inject these alternative alternative facts in to the disinfosphere for involuntary consumption by the mentally diseased
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12 hours ago, HornPhD said:
I didn’t know Serbia and Kosovo were fucking
he just put ethiopia and egypt on the can't enter list
why would they let him mediate their nile conflict?
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$499/usa is fantasy for new hardware
palantir writing a new os, if they actually tried, would be copypasta of android
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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:
“Trump Mobile, its products and services are not designed, developed, manufactured, distributed or sold by The Trump Organization or any of their respective affiliates or principals,” the bottom of the website reads.
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47 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:Also claiming that it will be Made in America...
Expand“Trump Mobile, its products and services are not designed, developed, manufactured, distributed or sold by The Trump Organization or any of their respective affiliates or principals,” the bottom of the website reads.
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the last update from cnn:
<Investigators "confident" Boelter acted alone>
that's a false flag from the authorities targeting the gravy seal roommate - i think he was the transport for the 18-minute teleport
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what this photo tells me is that he thought he could start moving after sunset, and his uneducated lizard brain has no understanding of infrared imaging - note the LE with night vision that became effective at the transition from civil to nautical twilight - it looks like they got him about 10 minutes in - i would guess a drone was able to discern his image variance - closing in for the grab was rote - and his 'crawling to them' is code for something else - look at his clothes - he hasn't been 'crawling' through anything
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1 hour ago, Kermit said:
It’s a shame he didn’t end it all before they found him.
nay
he's alive and 2 of his victims are alive, so his poisonous ideology and christofascism can now be put on show before the cameras
the evil trumpspawn will watch cnn if fox won't show it
it's a huge problem for shitgibbon
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On 6/13/2025 at 2:18 PM, Captainant said:
Fuckin' A, it's like the democratic party is the mid twenty-teens Longhorns. We're still with butterteeth handing out orange slices and cookies and wondering why we can't win a goddamn game while being scared to death of everything. We've still got years of wandering the desert until the fever breaks and the disease that Dodds and Plonsky let set in are washed away from the program as a whole. Just as Texas kept trading on past glory to stave of meaningful change and reforms, so does the Democratic party.
Or in contemporary terms, the current democratic leadership needs to fuckin' hit the bricks and let somebody else drive the ship. They're running shit like aggy, content to go 8-4 and never amount to a shit.
they are not even up to aggy-level deck-stacking and reality manipulation
the dems have fallen to d2 playing 3 OOC p5 games to pay for their salaries
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3 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:
and do all that while working towards reducing the wealth inequality that is being widened at the expense of all those things you listed.
taking on the billionaires is only possible with a 2/3rds majority in both houses and 3/4ths of the state legislatures to pass constitutional amendments
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On 6/13/2025 at 2:27 PM, LCHorn said:
I'm not picking on you specifically, but the left doesn't need to aggrandize the GOP and shouldn't try to mimic their more dysfunctional behaviors in order to win elections. This requires some hope, but if the Dems can find a really good communicator that's cool it'll go a LONG way to revealing how fragile the GOP 2024 coalition was.
--throw out 2024, that was a self-own by Biden and the rest of the party and it's not going to teach helpful lessons next year or when the race heats up in 2027.
Instead, what they/we need to acknowledge is that the way information is getting passed from elites to everyone else, from business to consumer, from neighbor to neighbor, etc., has had a revolutionary change in the last decade.
Whoever masters the new media environment is likelier than not to win elections. Do that and pick a few policies that are broadly popular like David Shor recommends and see who's best at getting attention in a long primary season.
put all of this on top of yesterday's engine and we win
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On 6/13/2025 at 1:57 PM, 'stache said:
They unify over hatred of browns and gays. What do you propose the democrats unify around?
immigrants, the social safety net (veterans, medicaid, medicare), labor, small business?
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On 6/13/2025 at 12:32 PM, chainsaw said:
I disagree with "moderate." There is no middle anymore. Pick a side and be strong. Look to Pritzker. Look to Walz. If you believe in nothing, sit the fuck down. If you aren't willing to fight for what's right, sit the fuck down.
Don't overthink this. Keep running the plays that net you the most yardage and keep doing it until and ONLY UNTIL the other side finds a way to stop it.
except the dems have been running the greg davis 3rd and 5
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On 6/13/2025 at 12:31 PM, bolverk said:
By my reading, what's happened is that during the 1990s and following the Reagan Revolution, the mainstream of both parties more or less reached a consensus on neoliberal economic issues, e.g., free trade. There were, of course, differences on taxation, with the GOP firm believers in supply-side shit but moderate Dems not being too far off. Both were wrong on this, of course, as the benefits didn't "trickle down" to the working class, which now felt abandoned by the Party of Labor.
To separate themselves from the Democrats, the GOP began to fully embrace all the "culture war" shit, demonizing immigrants, gays, minority groups, the "coastal elite," and Murphy Brown wanting a kid, with Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh leading the charge, slowly winning over Labor who felt threatened by all three. This, in turn, led to the Democratic Party basically becoming a loose coalition of the downtrodden trying to keep their shit together by watching each others' backs.
So, yeah, you've been correct in your thesis all this time about Dems needing to win back labor. And since Obama, the progressive branch has been proposing all sorts of economic reforms, but keep getting accused of being Marxists, a message that Republicans and moderate Dems have both used to gain/retain power in primary and general elections alike. Meanwhile, progressives keep getting pulled into the sexy culture wars by trying to protect all these out-groups from personal attacks.
What's the solution, then, in your opinion?
- Abandon the disfavored in the culture wars and just be neoliberal moderates, hoping to win back Labor (a bloc that now consistently votes against their economic interests in elections?
- Go full-force Far-Left, waging a war on both billionaires and the culture war-supporting evangelicals?
- Just be the Party of Labor with progressive economic/fiscal policies only, while ignoring human rights and civil liberties altogether?
this was a great post @bolverk
now, in light of what happened yesterday, do you have any edits you would make or additions?
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On 6/13/2025 at 11:02 AM, Hank Kingsley said:
Tim Walz is like the most normal human being in the world. And he was basically labeled as a freak and a traitor and pedophile.
how much dem party messaging was directed towards character attacks on vance? maybe the dems should have met the walz attacks with an equal and proportionate response
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On 6/13/2025 at 10:58 AM, Hank Kingsley said:
I beg people to stop believing this talking point. It relies on some sense of "normalcy" within the electorate and government, which doesn't exist anymore.
the 'midwestern white male' talking point has nothing to do with normalcy
it's a requirement to run an effective and winning counter-op to the magafox-dosed cointelpro brainwashing social engine
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On 6/13/2025 at 10:41 AM, Sbbruin said:
Mayor Pete is a non-starter. Frankly Newsom probably is too. California is painted with too liberal of a brush to overcome. Dems need a moderate white midwestern white male. Gotta play a hand that can win.
love pete
magamorons can delete him on sexuality
the candidates must require fox to manufacture 'normal' attack memes
the vp for the card is ossoff - he brings a swing state and the blue seaboard (georgetown, london school of economics)
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violence, harassment and threats from democratic politicians?
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4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:
You’re not wrong.
But the foundation for action is energy. Most fires start with a match. The opposition has needed some broad-based spark for a long time. Now, to get that into leadership…that was the cautionary part for me. The speeches I heard? They were…fine. As I was listening, I kept thinking over and over “FFS, I could do this much better.” The movement needs passion, voices that shout real, broad calls to action, that ignite fires, that get people to want to run through fucking walls for this. The best moments that I heard yesterday were maybe a B+ in that regard.
The opposition needs voices that can send people out into the world with passion, determination, and fervor. I don’t think we have those yet.so what's next?
scattershooting:
the coalition of 50 different movements, all the names you know and then some, came together to make this happen
christy walton (billionaire widow of a sam walton son) has broken ranks and funded some of the media buys that no doubt contributed to the turnout - is she still in? for how much $$?
there is a brand to rally around
the signs from yesterday are the content
the people got off their asses because the dems are turtled cowards - the protest was done FOR them DESPITE them
the new faces and voices that have yet to emerge have to be male and not 'minorities' - they must be faces the magats and morans can't auto-delete because reasons
balancing the right mix of asymmetric decentralization and national economies of scale is going to be the alchemy that results in lead or gold
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this isn't golf
i'm not sure what it is
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i hope they take him alive and castrate his ideological diseases in court for the cameras
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Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.
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bibi says wish a motherfucker would
and that's the thing NO ONE is talking about
israel has nukes
at least 100, maybe 200 warheads
but they have never been acknowledged
the shia have no ally they can guarantee will come to their aid; the russians might, but not in the current (ukrainian entanglement) paradigm
the west counters russia
south asia has a 'mad' lock on nuke use
bibi wants another "new american century pearl harbor" event..... who counters his nukes, and how?
nothing is a matrix glitch in this timeline..... remember, the shitgibbon telegraphs his actions in his tweets......
would anyone be surprised by *ANYTHING* that happens tonight or this week?