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Celery Man

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  1. I prefer using a strap tie on the neck, but my d-41 already had a button installed on the heel. I wouldn’t worry too much about doing it, but make sure you know where you want it first.

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  2. 10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

    I found out today there’s apparently a neo-grunge movement happening and I am all for it. Very AIC-Soundgarden sounding. The two bands I like so far are Return to Dust and Dark Sun. Apparently one of the drummers (Return to Dust?) is Slash’s kid. 

    is Wednesday part of this? There's a lot of grunginess to that sound and MJ Lenderman is clearly heavily influence by alternative rock bands of that era

    1 minute ago, G650 said:

    No, the opposite, Sparta. Jim Ward was his name.

     

    I've only just realized I omitted one of the absolute worst offenders. And definitely my generation, Marilyn Manson.

    ahh i knew that

  3. a) I assume you're talking about The Mars Volta for the guitarist?

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    b) it's funny, ATDI is a pretty formative post-hardcore band and one I've listened to a fair bit both back in the day and later on up till even now, and they're from Texas as well, and certainly their stage presence was an influence on my little baby band's whole thing, but I don't actually know that much about the guys or even which ones are in Mars Volta or their stances on stuff or etc. But also, one time we were in LA to meet with some labels in that very cool era of "we're definitely going to make it" and saw Cedric sitting alone at Jumbo's Clown Room, right before Justin Long bummed a cigarette in the parking lot. Which was a funny fucking night.

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  4. 1 hour ago, G650 said:

     

    And I'm 100% sure @Celery Man is reading my take in early aught bands 

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    ha, as someone who still has his warped tour all access pass and literally headlined an emo night concert week before last I don't really disagree with you overall. In this thread I'm needling a little bit because it's fun and also because, while I don't disagree with you broadly, I truly don't get the band choices (modest mouse and at the drive in) you've made to illustrate the point. Which, also, totally fine. We covered Modest Mouse - for At The Drive In, I personally don't understand the first fucking thing about what they're saying in the lyrics and while yes I know you said it's not about lyrics, I also don't get where else you have the limp passive thing or the my fees fees thing unless it's because they're wearing girl jeans. Which, fine, but that's one of the cross generational things and is a tale as old as time.

    I am about 1000% certain that you could track the rise and fall of mall emo with instances of teen self harm. There were several fucked up toxic things about that genre, one of which was how mental health and generally being fucked up and somehow traumatized got turned into what makes you special and essentially fashion or part of the whole affectation. That stuff is bad, but on the flip side you also have very sick and twisted people (obviously not talking about 650) who use that kind of obvious toxicity to take a completely opposite and evil stance towards mental illness and people who are different than themselves or have had the audacity to face actual obstacles in their lives. I bristle at that because I think we should treat others how we'd like to be treated. Anyways, that's a tangent that's really not related to even this side conversation which is distracting us from the important purpose of this thread.

    Also I really don't know anything about Mumford and Sons - before I ever listened to them I got the sense that they sucked and so I never did. But there have been several times I've been tricked into liking his stuff (Ted Lasso theme, Oscar Isaac duet from Llewyn Davis, New Basement Tapes, which also reminds me of Dawes being a band from this category) and so my assumption is that he is actually a super talented guy who has the audacity to make extremely accessible music that girls like. So maybe I'll check out that album.

    If you really want to hurt my millennial feelings, tell me that Sufjan is a pussy whose music is bad.

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  5. 1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

    OK, it comes in waves.  Morrissey was a puss, too.  I'm just saying that the indie folk hey-ho bullshit that is STILL going on didn't show up in the mainstream until after grunge.  (Ironically, I was going to start a thread about that after hearing the flavor of the moment Myles Smith, but now it's not necessary.)

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  6. 6 minutes ago, G650 said:

    Did I call them pussies or did I say limp and passive? I can't remember actually, but the latter would be more accurate.

    …..your At the Drive Ins, you name it….

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  7. 22 minutes ago, G650 said:

     

    Man, I knew this was gonna get way off track which is why I was hesitant to even respond. Lyrics are not even really what I'm describing, though they can be a part of it. 

     

    Well yeah but now you're trapped in a conversation about Modest Mouse.

    I think it's kind of interesting actually - to me, Modest Mouse is about 1 iteration away from the grunge era. Band of Horses falls into a different camp that I don't have as good of a handle on but it is much more of a.... My Morning Jacket, Tame Impala, even Mumford or Avett Bros early 2010s indie jam folk etc stuff. But also, I really don't have a ton of familiarity with Modest Mouse past Good News. The first thing that pops into my head when I think of that band is Lonesome Crowded West from 1997. Which I would describe as following the loud soft loud thing, where the loud has a lot of grungey/80s alternative influence and soft is downtempo bass with noise.

    The pussy music thing is also interesting because... say we're talking about music from the 2000s/2010s, what do we even mean by pussy? Cutting yourself pussy or scarf wearing banjo pussy? Cause we had both, but they were different scenes entirely.

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  8. I’m really not a lyrics guy and I haven’t spent a lot of time pondering what is meant by a guy with teeth like god’s shoeshine getting another orange Julius or whatever but at this point I’m curious - what about Modest Mouse makes them seem like passive victims? This would make sense to me if we were dissecting Bright Eyes, I don’t quite follow for Modest Mouse.

  9. On 5/31/2025 at 5:55 PM, GhostOfTomJoad said:

    BIL entered La Hacienda in Hunt this morning. Yesterday was his birthday. This is his first step to having another one next year.

    I’ve posted about some family stuff with someone having a failed run at rehab and sobriety and then checking her ass into LaHa. That experience reinforced the feeling that I had that there are a lot of places that exist to warehouse addicts and cash checks and some places that exist to guide people at their bottom into a successful recovery journey and a chance at salvation. La Ha is that place, it’s still that place.

     

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    serenity. Best of luck to your bil. My relative just celebrated 6 months.

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  10. I don't know shit about fuck and none of this makes me think he's a bad guy, but -

    a) wasn't invited back for the King of the Hill reboot, no reason stated
    b) crashed an event and seemed drunk/incoherent
    c) house burned down
    d) murdered in some sort of altercation

    sounds like some addict shit to me. I bet his neighbors are shitheads to and probably are homophobic but I think it's high odds that his husband was recently married to an addict circling the drain, which also weighs into how I understand anything he might be saying. 

     

    Sad shit. Sucks to die like that, and kinda especially sucks (if it's death related to spiraling addiction) to die in that way in just the moment where it raises visibility into the circumstances of your death.

  11. That Franz Ferdinand album was also summer ‘04. And American Idiot.

     

    i totally get hating/not digging Modest Mouse, but Lonesome Crowded Wesr, Moon and Antarctica, and Good News are all more important to me than any album from the Killers or Foo Fighters.

     

    summer 04 was also the… Rilo Kiley album with Portions for Foxes. I am excited about seeing Rilo Kiley this year.

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