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  1. 16 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    They don't have to.    Pretty sure the Big 12 would be happy to take Pitt, VTech, and some combo of Louisville/NCState/Duke, while the B1G grabs UNC/UVA

    As a Big 12 fan, my priority is NC State, Duke, Louisville, and then either VA Tech or Pitt. 

  2. 3 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

    Mike was asked the question about permanent rivals if BIG 12 goes to a 6-3 schedule. Guy said Arizona State and................Utah just cuz everyone hates Utah right now and ........... crickets. So looking at the map who would be the permanent rivals. Even the Texas school don't have who they consider a rival.

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    For Tech, I would want it to be Oklahoma State.  Makes so much sense. We accuse them of stealing our traditions.  We've had some incredible matchups over the years, and at one point it would been the two of us with UT and OU to the Pac12.

    I am so upset this year that we aren't playing them.  My sincere hope is we meet in the Big12 Championship game.

  3. 10 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    It's message boards and Twitter, but they're like lock step in unison in denigrating the Big 12 as something beneath them.  It's not a couple fans, it's nearly every single one with an online presence.

    I think Utah's a very good program on the field.  That doesn't have fuck all to do with anything in realignment.  The Big 12 is such a massive upgrade from going down with the Pac 12 ship, and they act like it's a lesser choice.  They are explicit that they don't think they should have to associate with schools like us.  Not football programs - schools, fanbases, humans.  The people of the Plains/Midwest are inferior humans.

    Again, it's message board silliness, but it seems like a definite feature of their collective culture, and I'm glad to have a fanbase or two that thinks like this.  Arizona fans are excited about joining the Big 12.  The 4 schools that called up are excited about joining the Big 12.  Colorado fans are a bit like Utah, but there's a lot more enthusiasm.  Utah would rather be in a reconstituted Pac/MWC.  That's not a reason to not add a valuable program, but it is a reason to view their fans as heels in the new arrangement.

    It's also some of their beat reporters, who often will reflect/project the prevailing attitude of not just alumni, fans, and locals, but very well often the administrators.  I listen to some of the guests come on 365 and other shows who are the Locked-On Utes, or 247 Utah person, or someone else in a similar role, and they all exude this arrogant attitude that Utah is simply better than anyone in the Big 12 except for Texas.  I forgot which show I was listening to on the drive home yesterday but I heard a Utah media guy just keep saying how Utah would prefer Pac 10 because it's more in alignment with their academics, they like the destinations better,  that if Utah did go to the Big 12 they would be instantly the top brand both academically and athletically, etc.  And they are speaking of the attitudes of the administration, not just the fans.

    This isn't just messageboard and twitter fodder.  This is what their mouthpieces are saying on national and youtube sports talk shows.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Deej said:

    The remaining Big 12 teams, in general, are averse to scheduling decent OOC games. I doubt very many of them want to start their season 0-1 by starting conference play in the first week. 

    I disagree completely with that premise.  This year alone:

    Tech vs. Oregon (with a return trip next year)

    Baylor vs. Utah

    WVU vs. Penn St. and Pitt

    TCU vs. Colorado 

    Okie St. vs. Ariz St.

    ISU vs. Iowa

    Kansas vs. Illinois

     

     

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  5. 52 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    Everyone needs a villain and the new Big 12 was feeling a little chummy outside of your usual spats (Farmageddon, Revivalry, Tech/OSU arguing about hand pistols).  Utah's delusion fills that void well.

    Look, man...that's a big fucking deal.  It's the fireant hill I'm willing to die on, dammit!

    And the correct terminology is "Guns up", not hand pistols.  Even Xerox U. has that part right.  :)

    9 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

     

    This is the winner.  I can't imagine any other being a more perfect fit than this one.

    Reddit is King and Extreme Emperor of Internet Memes.

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  6. 11 minutes ago, Alot said:

    There seems to be a consensus among surly that Utah sucks and they need pain.  Where does that come from? What did I miss?

    They may have the most undeserved and misplaced arrogance and delusion  of any fan base I’ve encountered. Like Aggy level delusion. 
     

    What I have learned is they think their football program is on the level of Alabama and their academics is on par with Cal and Stanford. They are better than any Big12 school in both athletics and academics, and they were God’s gift to the PAC when they joined. 
     

    I really hope they don’t join the Big12…I’m afraid they will be a cancer that disrupts the current collegiality and alignment we are enjoying from the remaining member schools. 

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  7. 9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

    Realignment 2023 is the preseason drama everyone deserves.  And someone notable is gonna get left at the curb.

    Please be Utah. Please be Utah. Please be Utah. 
     

    A year ago I was indifferent to them. But then I got to know them this past year. They are my Johnny Ringo. I really hate them. 

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  8. 12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    I don't get this, how does it change anything legally speaking for them to say they don't like the contract and want out? It doesn't make it any easier or harder for them to win that case. The numbers from other conference contracts is public knowledge. I haven't seen them talking about direct conversations with other conferences, but even then, people have a pretty distorted view on "collusion" and "tortious interference" when it comes to business contracts. This country is pure capitalism, if there's more money to be made elsewhere, it's expected the players will move that direction. Doesn't change what the contract says and that they will have to fight like hell to get out of it for a reasonable cost. I actually appreciate this approach to the generic "we are committed to our conference" even when they add "and will move forward in the best interest of our program." Such drivel. Everyone knows FSU is valuable, much more so than the contract they're bound by, of course they're gonna try to get out and make more money. 

    What FSU is attempting to do, if this is really what they are trying to do, is extremely complicated, if it can even be done, and it is fraught with legal hurdles.  It's also a chess match.  If FSU is legitimately trying to do this, the last thing the General Counsel would want is for anything to be made public too early.  Don't show your cards until you have to.  But these trustees coming out and saying all of this publicly in the haphazard way they seem to be doing it does not help the strategy (unless, and this is a definite possibility, this is a smokescreen on FSU's part).

    Regardless, loose lips sink ships.  

  9. 3 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

     

    Theres smoke...and then theres this kind of smoke...sheesh 

     

    Once again, the FSU General Counsel is probably losing his shit right now with these rogue trustees opening their big mouths.

    The FSU General Counsel right now:

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  10. 1 minute ago, 'stache said:

    I think they're all on par with what the Big 12 is starting in 2024, including their value to media contracts. 

    Also provides more late Saturday inventory without any of the networks having to pay for the PacX via a media rights deal.  Cuts the deadweight of WSU, OSU, Cal, and Stanford from the networks obligations.

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  11. 11 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

     

     

    Think this is where I make my shark tank/elevator pitch for a new streaming service that bundles all the existing ones together (ESPN+, Paramount, Netflix, Hulu, ESPN, etc) into 1 convenient location running on a piece of set top box hardware that has a remote that looks like this:

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    I'll call it: iCABLE+ and I'm asking $100 million for a 10% equity stake. No low ball offers, I know what I've got

     

     

    You know, we laugh...but think about it.  This is the logical next progression.  Everything we watch will eventually be only streaming, and then someone will come along and say, "Hey, if you get this subscription, you can access all your channels directly through one app, box, etc."

    Guess what...we then come full circle back to essentially what is cable.

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  12. 11 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

    You think every program has players betting on their own team's games?  Wait, excuse me - sharing their account so their tech-idiot boomer parents can bet on their son's team's games.   Maybe so.   I'd hope any program with a compliance office that doesn't suck has been making the risks of this clear to players. 

    It actually is a prescribed NCAA compliance training piece for student-athletes, coaches, and staff (or at least it was 10 years ago when I was doing athletic certification).  Once a year we had to sit in a training session telling us we could not gamble on ANY sport, much less a college sport.  Strictly forbidden.  They said we couldn't even be in for-money fantasy football league.

  13. This reminds me of my big question back when the Pete Rose betting scandal hit:

    "If he bets ON his team to win, how is that a problem?"

    Maybe I missed it, but I never once saw any reports on HOW he betted (Pete Rose, that is).  To me, if a player, coach, administrator, whatever, bets ON the team to WIN, then I have no problem with it.  (Yes, I know, gambling slippery slope and getting in hoc with bad elements, yada yada yada).

    I'm just saying that if a player is extra motivated to play even harder and smarter because he has money on the outcome of his team WINNING, then so be it.  No problem with it.  And this is coming from someone who is pretty damn conservative when it comes to this stuff.

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  14. 1 minute ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

    Sounds like the weirdos who tried to get me to sell Amway back in college.

    "Ok, guys...it's Wednesday, which means we end practice an hour early so you all can hit the phone banks to solicit more subscriptions and get those much needed new chin straps!"

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