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Gene Parmesan

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  1. 8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    While family isn't only a legal term, it certainly has legal significance. If he is a family and a formally adopted, then he becomes an heir under intestacy laws and potentially even under a will if it isn't very specific (e.g., says split equally among "children").  Further, being family and adopted would have made it easier to claim Michael as a dependent for tax purposes.

    I think the fact Mr. Tuohy has come out and said that adoption of an adult wasn't legal and that's why they went this route is suspect. It clearly is legal and would have done what they needed in terms of NCAA booster issues. While it wouldn't have granted the Tuohy's any other rights or responsibilities for Michael as an adult, as their legal child they certainly were free to take care of him just as any other parent would.

    That said, I don't think the lawsuit goes anywhere. 

    I get it.  They either didn't want to adopt him and give him rights to their estate, or getting the conservatorship was the easiest option to get him eligible for Ole Miss.  Had he not developed into a good enough player for Ole Miss and took a scholarship elsewhere his relationship would be nothing more than friends.  Had he went to Alabama then NFL you have the same story with no need for adoption/conservatorship.  Until we get the screwed over facts I don't think either of those two scenarios are nefarious other than they steered him to their alma mater.

  2. 13 minutes ago, orange dream said:

    I wonder if somewhere along the way (maybe when they sold the restaurants) in the Touhy's estate planning it somehow became more obvious to Oher that he was NOT getting a "child's" portion of the general family inheritance.  I could see a scenario where he really did feel like part of the family (as he indicated in the passage from the earlier book) and the Touhy's continued to put him in the Christmas card photos, etc. to the point where he thought he was going to get 1/3 in the mom and dad's wills but ultimately realized he was getting the "conservatorship" portion instead of lining up next to Collins and SJ for the gravy train to unload; that he may have started looking for a way to "get his" and that lawyers may have encouraged this action as a means (potentially misguided based on the information that is coming to light) to that end.

    Either way, somebody is not being truthful and I bet he's not in this year's Christmas card photo.

    I don't know when they sold the restaurants but he would have to be pretty stupid if he thinks the family that helped him through high school and college was going to give him 1/3 of a nine figure estate.  You guys are taking the word family more serious than Dominic Toretto.

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  3. 26 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    I think the semantics are important. Best case scenario, they didn't screw him over financially, but they still chose him, of all the poor struggling Black kids in the south, because he was a D1 prospect and legit NFL prospect, not out of the goodness of their hearts. I'll let the case play out, but I don't think he'd bring the case if there wasn't some evidence of financial fuckery.

    I agree he was absolutely chosen because of football, but those facts seem to have been there all along, and they didn't have to choose anyone.  As TwiceHorn has commented the book seems to make that a lot clearer.

  4. 2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    Definitely true, but they used the term "adoption" as part of the story, which wasn't true, and has a far more familial connotation that conservatorship. Even if they didn't swindle him out of money (i'm not sure why people are railing on plaintiffs attorneys but taking defense attorney's word as gold), if they needed something legal to avoid them being boosters with respect to him as a prospect, the fact that they chose conservatorship over adoption, it tells me they weren't quite as familial as the story portrays. If he truly was family to them, and they needed that relationship for him to go to Ole Miss, then adopt him. Again, the whole thing sounded fishy from the start, and something was fucked up here, either financially, relationship-wise, or most likley (imo) both. 

    I am not sure what it matters had they never used the word adopted.  Unless they are running some charity scam based on that.  Obviously he truly wasn't your definition of "family" to them, but they still helped him.  It's semantics in my opinion until we get to the receipts of him being screwed over.  The only thing that's come to light so far is that the movie was a ridiculous embellishment of the true story, but everyone should have already knew that when they saw the trailer.

  5. 1 minute ago, 'stache said:

    I don't get it, but for the opposite reason. There's a huge difference. One is a familial relationship, one is strictly legal and usually to protect monetary assets. Lawyers often act as conservators knowing nothing about the ward. If he was truly "family" to them, adoption would be how to make him true family. I really don't get the conservatorship v. adoption because he was 18. Adoptions of adults is something that happens. I also don't understand how a legal conservatorship fixes the booster problem, if anything, it sounds very much like an agency relationship, involving managing someone else's financial interests with fiduciary obligations. Sounds like some NCAA/SEC bullshit.

    I'm not delving into the NCAA rules as they are likely so ass backwards there is no point to make sense of it.  As I understand the only reason he is anything other than a family friend to them is because he and they wanted him to go to Ole Miss, but they were boosters.  Otherwise he'd just be a friend that they helped had that went to a different school.  If the conservatorship solved the NCAA issues I don't really care vs adoption.  Family is not strictly a legal term, it's commonly used to express a bond to the people you care about most.  Typically that's blood relatives, but if it's not, I don't require an adoption in order for somebody to be considered family.  If there is evidence that they screwed him out of money with the conservatorship, I'm all ears.  I don't believe they got paid what he is alleging for the book/movie, and there is no evidence they were doing anything to his NFL money.

  6. 18 hours ago, Elvis said:

    I stuck with it for the story, but that is some of the worst acting I have ever seen.  I fast forwarded through most of it.

    Same opinion.  I watched it for the importance of the story, but it tried too hard to be clever with the topic like The Big Short and it just didn't work.  

  7. Give me carrots and corn over black olives.  Olives are my kryptonite.  There has to be something with my taste buds with olives, because I can't wrap my head around anyone thinking that is good.  There are plenty of foods that aren't for me, but I can at least discern qualities in them that others may prefer, an olive just completely bottoms me out.

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  8. 2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Haha, yeah I guess the movie was kind of syrupy.  Come to think of it, I don't remember hardly a thing about the movie.

    Disagree about the book.  Like most Lewis stuff, it was an expose of the business of football, mostly at the college level.  And of course I was already familiar with most of that as an insane fan.  But it was good to see it in a sort of complete context involving actual humans.

    I've been a huge Lewis fan going back to Liars Poker.  I did not recall that he and Tuohy were big buds.  That seems rather at odds with what I knew or think about Lewis.  I mean, Tuohy is just your standard southern clod, and Lewis is a Princeton art history major with an MBA from LSE.

    And that brings up one of the odder factoids that came up:  Lewis gave the Tuohys half of his proceeds from the movie?  What's that all about?

    When you sell your story for a book maybe it standard that it includes an option for the author to sell it for a movie.

  9. I really don't understand what it matters adoption vs conservatorship?  I get that they have different legal definitions and duties, but otherwise it boils down that they did take care of him, and of course it was because he was good at football.  Now if they screwed him out of money, I hope they get exposed, and he gets paid, but I don't really give a crap if the family let everyone think they adopted him when they only had a conservatorship. 

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  10. I had no idea the family was that rich.  I never saw the movie, but just assumed they were suburbanite rich.  Maybe this needs to be posted on the movie forum, but selling your story for a book/movie deal is definitely worth something.  That should have all been given to Oehr given they had 9 figure worth, but I can't believe it would be millions of dollars.  Non fiction anything wouldn't be a thing if those were the costs.

  11. 4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    I’ve seen this like a dozen times. You realize rich people like money, right? There’s no real concept of “having enough” it’s money to be made at every opportunity.

    Seems like the movie wouldn't had done so well if there were dozens of stories just like it.

  12. 4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

    Technically yes, the employer has to make up that gap.  

     

    Idk about the Mcdonald's question but I would assume so.  But who tips at McDonalds? 

    Nobody, Mcdonalds was just a stand in for any food service that people traditionally never tipped but are now being asked to.  In theory those workers could be shifted to the 2.13 waiter wage scale if enough people tip.  Also if a restaurant pays it's servers minimum wage or more, aren't they basically be able to keep all tips?  The whole thing is ass backwards in our society.  Even in simpler times there wasn't much logic in it.

  13. 20 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

    Just heard on the radio if San Francisco made the Super Bowl, Shanahan’s plan all along was to bring in Philip Rivers.. 

    Why was his wife having trouble conceiving?

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  14. 51 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

    McDonald’s guy also makes at least minimum wage. In glorious Texas, waiters make 2.13

    I probably don't know what I am talking about, but if a waiter doesn't make at least make minimum wage between base pay and tips isn't the employer responsible for the difference?  Also wouldn't a shitty McDs manager be able to pay his workers 2.13 an hour if he can prove that tips bring them up to minimum wage?

  15. This guy is trying to gain access to a shipping containers for human trafficking.  I know a group of guys that can help.

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  16. 35 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

    That worked out well. Not considering Quinn the #1 player in Texas for whatever year you want to classify him as is a bit disingenuous.  A realize that doesn’t fit neatly in a box with a pretty ribbon on top.  Who was ranked higher than Banks or Hill in TX in their  classes?

    I think the point is that Sark is turning recruiting around, pointing out Quinn was also a #1 player that Sark landed as a transfer only helps that argument.  

  17. On 8/5/2023 at 11:30 AM, Texzilla58 said:


    I hope Payton goes 0-17. What a piece of shit he is. This is just the latest action of his showing his shittiness. Fucking bountygate toradol huffing cocksucker.

    Payton's worst offense to mankind was being the inspiration for the movie Home Team.  For that alone he should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell.

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  18. 21 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

    Many NFL fans are people that went to smaller schools where college football is nonexistent or irrelevant. A Wesleyan grad could give a shit about college football, but he's probably a diehard Jets/Giants/Patriots/Eagles/Bills fan. Wash and repeat with many of the colleges in the Northeast. NFL fandom is about where you're from, and not where you went to school. 

    There's also a large gambling/fantasy football contingent within the NFL fanbase. These people really follow players instead of teams. 

    There is some crossover. Diehard LSU/Saints or Texas/Cowboys fans. 

    College graduates are a minority in the college fan population.  Much like the NFL fan population.  Maybe the college graduate turns his nose up to NFL fans, but in reality he is surrounded by just as many morons.

  19. It's likely all fake entirely.  There is a guy filming a guy that's just filming the street.  There is no context to what they are doing, and no context to why the car driver would even care enough to stop and get out.  Seems like they are just trying to create a viral video. 

  20. 31 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

    The way I see it, with NIL and us going to the SEC next year, this is it.  If we don't have a successful year, and by that I mean a minimum of 10 wins, then we may not recover.  Sark HAS to be the guy because I don't think we will be able to crawl back up the ladder for decades if we go into the SEC in bad shape.  

    I like where he has us so far.  Building up the lines, a la Saban, is exactly what I wanted.  We can pay for skill positions if we need them.  Let's fucking go.

    I hope Sark is the guy to, but what do you think takes decades?  Even before NIL you see pretty much saw instantaneous turn arounds when a program hires the right coach.

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  21. 16 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    Here’s something maybe you assholes can explain that is new to me— I just got back from overseas and I’m several places I’ve been, there’s a sign that I’ll get charged a processing fee of 3-4 percent to pay via CC.

    WTF? That’s got to violate their vendor agreement with the card companies, right? 
     

     

    Not all vendors want to pay for your reward points.

  22. What's about movers?  First time using a moving company.  I have no idea what the company pays them hourly, but I know roughly what they will be charging me per hour, and tipping someone already charging me 100+/hour isn't something I really want to do. 

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