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1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:It is partly right. One voted for the bill in the House. One voted against the bill in Senate. They must have had the same sources as @Laxtonto.
Was that the same bill that MAGA dipshits were excoriating Walz for saying he'd sign because it was basically a poison pill if he didn't. Walz didn't necessarily agree with it but there were really bad ramifications if he didn't sign it, like the MN GOP were going to do some really, really serious harm to the state. (Sorry this is vague AF but I wouldn't even know how to go searching for this. But basically, MAGA thinks it's found a "gotcha" for Walz. And I wonder if this is the same bill Hortman voted for.)
28 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:This family is simply rotten to the core. There is nothing redeemable about any of them at this point and I wish nothing but the worst on all of them.
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The putts Spaun made at 12 and 18 are the two longest putts he's made all year. Some interesting notes here: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6428283/2025/06/15/us-open-2025-what-to-know-spaun-win-oakmont/
QuoteA frantic, exceedingly soggy final round at Oakmont managed to generate one of the more exciting horse races in recent major championship history.
A half-dozen players claimed a share of the lead at some point during the afternoon, navigating one of golf’s most demanding venues. After a weather delay of more than 90 minutes, J.J. Spaun emerged above the pack, making birdie on four of his last seven holes to secure his first major win.
Here are the top numbers and notes to know from the final round of the 125th United States Open.
1. Spaun’s performance Sunday was inarguably one of the most resilient by a major champion in the history of the sport. He clanged an approach off the pin at the second that bounded back some 50 yards. He made bogey on four of his first five holes and scored 40 through nine holes. He didn’t make a birdie until the 12th and wound up carding six bogeys in all. He missed half of his fairways and lost more than a stroke and a half to the field with his approach play in the final round. None of that mattered.
Spaun is the first player to card a 40 or higher on the front nine in the final round of a U.S. Open and still win since Francis Ouimet in 1913. He is the first man to card a 40 or higher on any nine holes the week of a major win in 23 years (Ernie Els, third round of the 2002 Open). His six bogeys are the most in the final round by a U.S. Open champion since Hale Irwin at Inverness in 1979.
2. Spaun’s championship-clinching birdie putt at 18 was 64 feet, five inches, the longest made by any player on the 18th all week. He is just the fifth player to finish birdie-birdie to win the U.S. Open in regulation, and the second to do it at Oakmont. Ben Hogan also birdied the 71st and 72nd holes in his victory in 1953.
Spaun holed putts of 22, 40 and 64 feet all during his last seven holes played. His makes at 12 and 18 are his two longest all year. Spaun made 160 feet of putts Sunday, 40 more than any other player in the field. His preposterous 401 feet of putts made for the championship also led all players. He entered the week ranked 158th of 179 qualified players on the PGA Tour in feet of putts made per round.
Spaun had played in the U.S. Open just once previously, missing the cut at Torrey Pines in 2021. He is the first player to win this championship in his second career start since Webb Simpson at The Olympic Club in 2012.
3. While Spaun’s winning putt will be played on U.S. Open highlight reels forever, the significance of the tee shot he hit the previous hole cannot be understated. Tied for the lead standing on the 71st tee, a 314-yard par 4, Spaun hit an absolutely perfect drive, bouncing onto the green, 18 feet from the cup. He made a two-putt birdie to take an outright lead he refused to relinquish. Spaun gained 2.35 strokes on the field for the week with his tee shots, ranking a modest 26th among players to make the cut. His last two tee shots were responsible for 70 percent of his strokes gained off the tee for the week.
Spaun is just the fourth player since 2000 to be age 34 or older and get his first major win at the U.S. Open. Two in that group got it done at Oakmont: Angel Cabrera was 37 when he outlasted the field at 5 over back in 2007.
4. Robert MacIntyre finished alone in second place, the best result by a player from Scotland at the U.S. Open since Colin Montgomerie did the same in 1997. MacIntyre shot 69-68 on the weekend, the only player in the field to break par in both Rounds 3 and 4. He played his last 12 holes of the championship 3 under, bogey-free, going 4-of-4 scrambling to post 1 over for the week.
This is MacIntyre’s first top-five finish in a major championship. His previous best came in his debut, the 2019 Open at Royal Portrush, where he finished T6. MacIntyre was tied for 23rd through 36 holes this week before nearly completing a historic winning charge. In U.S. Open history, only three players have come from farther down the leaderboard after 36 holes and gone on to win.
5. Viktor Hovland finished alone in third place, three shots off the lead — precisely where he began the final round. Hovland has four top-five finishes in major championships. Since the beginning of 2022, that is tied for most of any player without a major win in that span, alongside Tommy Fleetwood and Collin Morikawa.
Though his approach numbers for the week were good overall, they weren’t up to his elite standards Sunday. Hovland had an average proximity to the hole in the final round of 49 feet, 9 inches — more than 27 feet farther away than what he produced Saturday. Perhaps the most buoyant statistic for Hovland came from his beleaguered short game. Hovland, who entered the week ranked 158th on tour this year in strokes gained around the green, led the field at Oakmont in that metric.
6. Sam Burns, the 54-hole leader, closed with 78 to finish in a tie for seventh place. It’s the highest final round shot by a 54-hole leader in a U.S. Open since Dustin Johnson carded 82 at Pebble Beach in 2010.
Burns received a less-than-magnanimous ruling regarding casual water relief at the 15th, where he ended up making double bogey, derailing his title hopes. Over the last two summers, Burns has been one back entering the final round at Royal Troon and one ahead entering Sunday here at Oakmont. In those final rounds, he is a combined 15 over par.
The last player to hold a one-shot lead through 54 holes at the U.S. Open and win the championship in regulation remains Payne Stewart in 1999 at Pinehurst.
7. Adam Scott closed with 79, his worst round in a U.S. Open since an 82 in 2007. That was also here at Oakmont. Scott never quite had his best form at any point Sunday — his lone birdie of the afternoon came on the fourth hole. His seven fairways hit and nine greens in regulation were both personal lows for the week. A run of 5 over par on his last five holes left him in a tie for 12th place.
Scott was seeking to become the first player in men’s golf history to win his second career major 12 or more years after claiming his first. Now 44, he would have been the second-oldest U.S. Open champion all-time, behind only Hale Irwin in 1990 (age 45).
8. Carlos Ortiz made just one birdie Sunday amid the extremely difficult conditions but leaves Pennsylvania with easily his best major finish. His tie for fourth is the best finish in men’s major championship history by a player representing Mexico. The previous mark was held by fellow LIV Golf competitor Abraham Ancer, who finished tied for eighth at the 2022 PGA.
Tyrrell Hatton shares fourth place with Ortiz and American Cameron Young. It marks the best major championship finish of Hatton’s career, his previous best a T5 nine years ago at The Open. His Legion XIII teammate Jon Rahm posted the early clubhouse lead, 4 over, after a Sunday 67. It’s the third time Rahm has shot 67 or lower in the final round of a U.S. Open, tied for the second most in history.
9. Xander Schauffele never truly got in contention, but his tie for 12th place continues a staggering run of U.S. Open consistency. Schauffele is just the third player since World War II to finish in the top 15 in the United States Open nine years or more in a row. The other two players are Sam Snead (also nine straight) and Jack Nicklaus (12).
Rory McIlroy closed a sour week with a sweet note, finishing his U.S. Open with a round of 67. It’s McIlroy’s 10th career round of 67 or lower at the U.S. Open, the most of any player in history. With 39 rounds of 67 or better in his major championship career, Rory trails only Tiger Woods (48), Nicklaus (42) and Phil Mickelson (41) for most in the modern era.
10. The final men’s major of the season is The Open, hosted by Royal Portrush for just the third time. Shane Lowry was the last victor there six years ago, his Saturday 63 sparking a six-shot runaway and a party that may have only recently ended. Fleetwood, Tony Finau, Brooks Koepka and Lee Westwood rounded out the top five that week.
The opening round of The Open is in 32 days.
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Pretty good read: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6428298/2025/06/16/jj-spaun-win-us-open/
QuoteOAKMONT, Pa. — One by one, they made their way over the bridge, down the stairs and into the scoring area. Their shoes and ankles were covered in mud. Their polo shirts soggily suctioned to their bodies. Their eyes glazed over from the things they’d seen. My goodness, these men wanted to win the U.S. Open with every bit of their being, to finally win a major championship and make this ugly, rainy day worth the battles behind them.
And then they watched those dreams fade away, as J.J. Spaun made his a reality.
Tyrrell Hatton was mid-interview as the putt rolled in, seeing a television screen out of the corner of his eye. The often aggravated, ornery Englishman slowed his words as he saw it, and his scowl turned to a smile of calm joy.
“He’s holed it,” Hatton said. “Unbelievable. What a putt to win. That’s incredible.”
Viktor Hovland was there on the green, still fighting with hope as it went in. His dreams were shattered right in front of him, yet Hovland immediately put his putter down and clapped with pure appreciation. He even slapped the man’s hand like a first-base coach celebrating a home run.
Robert MacIntyre was leaning back in a scoring area chair, hoping to the golfing gods for a J.J. Spaun disaster. He was the clubhouse leader with a chance to steal the U.S. Open until Spaun took the lead. If Spaun could just bogey 18, they’d go to a playoff. MacIntyre watched too as it fell, and the 28-year-old Scot lifted his arms and exaggeratedly clapped his hands high in the air. Pure respect. Well Done. “Wow,” he mouthed to himself.
Because everybody who witnessed what J.J. Spaun did on that 18th green Sunday at Oakmont understood they had just seen what this whole damn thing is about. They saw the reasons to still believe. The payoff for all the pain. The fact that maybe, just maybe, anybody can win a U.S. Open. And that mattered so much more than feeling sorry for themselves.
What happened was Spaun — a journeyman, a grinder, a stocky, 5-foot-8, 34-year-old golfer who nearly lost his PGA Tour card a year ago — came out of a rain delay four shots behind the lead after a disastrous start. And Spaun just played. Played so well that he went to that 18th green at the toughest course in America with cold, foggy rain beating down, needing just a two-putt for a major championship.
Instead, Spaun went ahead and made the 64-foot, 5-inch putt to win the whole thing by two shots.
There are times at sporting events when you become fundamentally aware that it’s OK to feel. That we’re all just people working jobs and traveling around, hoping to get a little bit further, and a little bit further, and hoping it all works out in the end. You don’t get what you want often enough, and the cynicism can build in. Even watching golf. Oh, Scottie Scheffler wins again? Bryson DeChambeau? Cool. More superstars are getting what they want. But now and then, you witness Spaun launching his putter into the air in complete disbelief that he — he — really did the thing at the one place designed to bend golfers to its will. And you remember to feel.
Because J.J. Spaun is not your typical U.S. Open champion.
He’s a Lakers fan who was asked about his Kobe Bryant moment and compared himself to Derek Fisher. He recited a Tiger Woods story about playing in U.S. Opens, but not because Woods talked to Spaun himself. No, he just got the story secondhand from Max Homa.
He is a mixed-race guy from California who started playing golf without any formal lessons, learning by hitting balls into a net his dad set up in the garage. He was a walk-on at San Diego State and earned his way onto the team before becoming an All-American. He grinded on mini tours for four years, and even when he made it to the PGA Tour, he simply fought to survive for half a decade. He broke through with a 2022 win at the Valero Texas Open, but within two years was missing 10 cuts in five months.
“Last year in June, I was looking like I was going to lose my job, and that was when I had that moment where, if this is how I go out, I might as well go down swinging,” Spaun said.
There was a shift that summer. For so long, it was about climbing, climbing, climbing. Aspirations. Goals. Bitterness. Slights. Yet at 33, he understood he was OK. He had a wife, Melody, and two kids under age five. He’d spent eight years on the PGA Tour. He had made it in life. So golf did not need to be everything. The motto became: Let the golf be golf.
For so long, he had heard others talk in those sorts of self-improvement slogans and didn’t grasp them. Sure, stay focused. Stay calm. Got it. He had a family, but that still meant stress to provide for them. He still allowed golf to be his identity. He’d leave close calls in Hawaii and Memphis distraught, feeling a “crawl-into-a-hole-and-die kind of a feeling because it was just so embarrassing. I was just afraid to feel embarrassed again.” But last June, when he had to come to terms with the possibility this whole ride could end, it shifted.
“If this is how I’m going to go out,” he said, “then this is it.”
Caddie Mark Carens leaps into J.J. Spaun’s arms after the winning putt. (Patrick Smith / Getty Images)
And the golf got better. Three top 10s and five top 30s in six starts to end the season. Good performances in the fall. He kept his tour card, kept the success going into 2025, and got himself into signature events like the Players Championship. And there in Ponte Vedra, the possibilities were able to shift. No, it wasn’t life or death anymore, but he could dream a little bigger.
That day, so much like this Sunday, he went into the final round with a lead and struggled. Three bogeys before an afternoon rain delay forced him to reset. Everyone assumed the tournament was Rory McIlroy’s until Spaun came out of the delay and birdied 14 and 16 to force McIlroy into a playoff. He didn’t win, but he understood he could.
So on Father’s Day, entering it one stroke behind leader Sam Burns, he opened with an ugly bogey. Then, he caught one of the worst breaks imaginable on No. 2 with a perfect approach that bounced off the flagstick, went across the green, and rolled down the steep front for an eventual bogey. He bogeyed five of his first six holes for a front-nine 40. NBC stopped showing his shots. He was done for.
Until another weather delay.
As he went back to the driving range to prepare for the restart, his (very new) coach, Josh Gregory, told him, “Stop trying so hard.” Just chill, the team told him. Because in any world, J.J. Spaun should not be disappointed he’s four back at a major championship. When he went to the ninth tee to restart, he smoked one in the fairway and knew. He had a chance.
Spaun is the first player to card a 40 on the front nine in the final round of a U.S. Open and still win since Francis Ouimet in 1913.
While everybody around him collapsed into oblivion, Spaun made a 40-foot birdie on 12, a 22-foot birdie on 14, and when he went to the famous drivable par-4 17th hole, he was tied for the lead. There on 17, he hit a shot so good it’s only unfortunate history will remember the winning putt on 18 more. He landed the uphill green, hitting a 309-yard drive to 18 feet from the tight pin. He two-putted for birdie, went to the 18th tee with the lead and needing a par to win.
And he launched a perfect drive into the fairway. He stepped off the tee with his chest pumping in and out like a cartoon, the adrenaline surely flowing in excess. From the fairway, a bogey was less likely. He could put his approach safely on the left of the green, as he did. He could, as most would assume, two-putt for par and go off into the foggy sunset.
But by Sunday night, J.J. Spaun had learned to dream a whole dream.
“I didn’t want to play defensive,” he said. “I didn’t know if I had a two-shot lead. I didn’t want to do anything dumb trying to protect a three-putt or something.”
Hovland’s putt before his showed him the exact line. Spaun had his guide. He had his line. And Spaun launched that 64-foot, 5-inch putt up the hill and let it go.
And the entire golfing world — from the gallery, to the workers, to the golfers hoping he missed — watched something special happen in front of them. They watched as the putt fell, and they remembered what this was all for.
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15 hours ago, aggie08 said:
Yeah, the ratings for Sam Burns and JJ Spaun playing 18 holes of golf on a Monday would be off the charts!
Not that it matters now but I'm catching up on the posts after I stopped reading the thread yesterday.
US Open no longer uses 18-hole playoff format. They've gone to a three-hole aggregate playoff.
15 hours ago, ztejas said:I watched JJ Spaun take Rory to the wire at Sawgrass earlier this year.
I guess no one else really watches golf. Spaun can fucking play.
Spaun is a career journeyman that's had a hell of a year so far and anybody who's been watching golf this spring knows it. He's been close a handful of times and finally sealed the deal yesterday.
14 hours ago, ztejas said:That's not a gimmie 2 putt...
No, it wasn't. 😀
14 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:Dude had 3-4 birdies 30 foot plus
I think they said he had nearly 140 feet of made putts on his last 7 holes (of course 64 of those were at the last).
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Marchand seems to pretty much the the difference in this series to me
Hard to argue that after he became the first player to score 5+ goals in a Cup Final for two different teams.
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Kimmel is great!
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1 hour, 40 mins to sunset in Pittsburgh. Does that give them enough time to finish today, assuming no playoff?
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Bogey five of the first six holes, now holds the outright lead. Wow!
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“He likes this one a lot” the announcer says of Scott’s tee shot at 12 as it goes right into the cabbage. Lol
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I think my money is on Ortiz at this point. Seems to be hitting the ball the best of those at the top right now.
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Man, if Scheffler can get a couple birdies coming in …
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I figured it would be Florida in 5. Edmonton is a one guy(ok maybe 2) team. Florida knows how to counter pressure(while putting on pressure as well) and Edmonton's tactics. They've taken McDavid out of the series pretty good. Dallas had no chance of doing that, they don't have the athletes to stay with Edmonton consistently enough. Oilers didn't have to worry about counters from Dallas.
Edmonton has certainly played better than I expected. The goalie switch worked for a game to keep them in it or it was goodnight nurse...plus some serious puck luck for Oil as well.
Edmonton is much more balanced than it has been but, yes, McDavid and Draisaitl are so unbelievably good, it might appear they’re a one or two-man team. Hyman scored 50 goals last year and got hurt for the playoffs against the Stars. He was playing very well when he got hurt.
Florida is just a spectacular team, one that added Marchand and Seth Jones this year — and they’ve been to the top of the mountain. They know what it takes. The Oilers are still learning. -
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5 minutes ago, TornACL said:
57 years old and lived with roommates. So he was a loser. But sure it was politicians' fault.
1 minute ago, Rip76 said:Wait. I thought he was married with kids?
Apparently, he rented a room in this other house and stayed there a few days per week but also lived with his wife and (maybe) kids elsewhere. Weird shit.
Wife was pulled over by police and had some interesting shit in her vehicle.
QuoteThe wife of the suspect accused of killing a Minnesota politician and attempting to assassinate another was found with a trove of suspicious items in her car.
Vance Boelter's wife Jenny was stopped by authorities at a convenience store while driving a car with three other relatives inside near Onamia at 10am on Saturday.
She was found with a weapon, ammunition, cash and passports about 75 miles from where the shootings took place in Brooklyn Park and Champlin, Minnesota, eight hours earlier.
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Minnesota gunman Vance Boelter's wife pulled over as cops make terrifying discovery inside vehicle
QuoteThe wife of the suspect accused of killing a Minnesota politician and attempting to assassinate another was found with a trove of suspicious items in her car.
Vance Boelter's wife Jenny was stopped by authorities at a convenience store while driving a car with three other relatives inside near Onamia at 10am on Saturday.
She was found with a weapon, ammunition, cash and passports about 75 miles from where the shootings took place in Brooklyn Park and Champlin, Minnesota, eight hours earlier.
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Texas DPS makes arrest after warning state lawmakers of “credible threats” tied to Capitol protest
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/06/14/texas-credible-threats-lawmakers/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1749929169&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR5uYcPriLXDj_iX8S2MhN6EJ_KGthswseHRVui5Ad2yqyuStEYgKOPfsMaoNA_aem_6jg4EB23P3BL5f1LzlkpMQ -
Decided to get a little exercise and employ my constitutional right to yell "fuck trump" a couple of times, so I strolled down to the capital from my place in Hyde Park. Aint gonna lie, I was a bit warm standing in that sun, so I bailed after an hour and headed back stopping in at Scholz's for a pop and to catch the end of the US open, and then again at the Crown because, well its the Crown. Not a bad Saturday.
Guy was handing these out, but mine got a little fucked up in my pocket.
Fuck Trump.
You can buy a shirt with that on it at raygun.com.-
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Minnesota lawmakers shot by person impersonating as a police officer *Update—2 killed*
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I think this is the bill I was thinking of in my above post.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-governors-roll-back-health-care-undocumented-immigrants-rcna211794