Posts posted by Chili dog
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2 minutes ago, Horns99 said:
Sorry guys, sounds like the decision was made last night, ole Herman is keeping his job. Directly from a BMD, who also says Herman is ass & no one likes him. Too much $$$ to pay out to existing staff & new hires with the current state of the athletic dept revenue.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIs there a chance that this BMD wanted to keep a lid on things and gave you some misinformation?
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5 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:
Ok, after getting ticked off yesterday after hearing some less than optimal information, today is a new today. There are so many sources here, we need a comprehensive betting sheet. Here is what I can recall we have:
Rapgamelarry - or whatever his name is. Dubious source, with some sort of connections, but good heroin for the Board.
The squid dude - see raplarry
Cedwhatever - see raplarry
Mr Orange - too few posts on Surly. Unless someone vouches for him, he's suspect.
Alphahorn - semi credible, but weird diversions into crypto raises eyebrows. I do know he has one thing wrong. He said it's been done for awhile. I know that isn't true.
RVC2005 - seems to have some real visibility. When he posts, I pay attention.
CTJ - i follow everything he posts closely, and he's freely admitted he doesn't know which way this is going.
me - I was firmly in the no camp Saturday because my source is impeccable, but since that time I have figured out Meyer has been reconsidering. I have no idea which way it goes.
Caddox - Someone said he's credible and that's what keeps me off the ledge.
Thamel - He posted some weird stuff implying both directions. Not sure what to think of his proclamations.
Kevin whatever - This one's interesting. Either he's got some legit intel or Urban is using him as a pawn in his chess match, like he did with others for tOSU job.
CTC2 - He's saying it's a no, and I don't know about his bonafides.
Futureman - Has already completely blown his credibility because he said there was never a chance Meyer would come here. The events of the last week prove Meyer is in play and that Texas wants him.
Who am I leaving off?
Also, the thought that Meyer is still mulling over an offer is laughable. The decision is made. It is NOT a foregone conclusion that it's yes, because Herman hasn't been fired, and he may not want to make a public statement on a job not open.
How the hell did Futureman make your list?
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1 hour ago, THUJONE said:
Wrong- if he had, it would be public. And he would have said so. There is no reason for him to be a no and not say it. Game theory motherfucker.
If he had said, “no,” the Fox crew would’ve done segments on Tom’s likelihood of being fired, like Game Day did. I watched both, and Fox definitely tip-toed around the subject. Game Day was all over it, because it’s clearly a huge story. Herbstreit basically said it would take an Urban Meyer-level coach to win at Texas. I think Herbstreit knows what’s coming.
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5 minutes ago, troph said:
Would be a huge mistake.
The reason I could see things stretching out is that Urban is still trying to put a staff together and OSU is trying to make the playoff. I agree with alphahorn that the deal is probably already done.
I think Urban will mail this recruiting class in and raid the transfer portal. He’s getting Sanders regardless of when he announces. That’s the big fish. A lot of the early enrollees aren’t going anywhere.
I’m not saying it won’t happen tomorrow. My gut just tells me neither party is in a hurry because Urban is building a staff behind the scenes and we still have one game remaining.
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2 hours ago, C-Man said:
I don't really know. I think it's more of an indictment of Campbell or Fickell than it is excitement over Allen.
I know there are 50 or more coaches who could do better than Herman at Texas. Hell, probably more. I also know there are a bunch that would not be improvements, especially when it's going to take $25M to buy him and his staff out and potentially pay another buyout if we poach somebody else's coach.
Allen (so far) doesn’t lose games he’s supposed to win. Last year, his four losses were MSU, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State and then Tennessee in the bowl game. He plays sound defense. They force tons of turnovers. They were losing to Ohio State by 28 and damn near came back and won. They fight like hell and they play smart. I don’t know if his coaching style would translate to 4 & 5 star kids, but he definitely gets everything out of his 2&3 star kids.
I’d probably prefer to see him get another season under his belt, but I’m impressed so far. Campbell loses games he shouldn’t from time to time. That’s a red flag for me. -
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7 hours ago, derpyhorndog said:
Going to give myself a pat on the back for calling Caltury on Monday.
I’m gonna give myself a pat on the back for remembering that from that far back. It may have just been a preliminary interview, though. Derek Chang is also former OSU. Honesty, I think Carrington would do just as well. If Carrington can sell the Herman program, he’ll have no problem selling Urban, and the recruits already have a relationship with him.
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Edited by Chili dog
9 minutes ago, George Clooney said:As of 2017, Hodges was his only protege.
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/06/ohio_state_football_looking_at.html
https://pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/adam-caltury/1784
here you go. Looks like he predates the Purdue guy.
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1 minute ago, George Clooney said:
As of 2017, Hodges was his only protege.
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/06/ohio_state_football_looking_at.html
I guess recruiting coordinators and strength coaches are different, but the guy at Pitt may be more recent than 2017. Or whoever said the guy at Pitt was a protege could be wrong. I’m just regurgitating what I read over 100 pages ago.
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Just now, George Clooney said:
Pantoni's protege as of 2017 was Eron Hodges, who is now at Purdue. Was there another one who is currently at Pitt?
They typically have several. Moffitt pumps them out at LSU. At one point, FSU, UF, Bama and Ole Miss all had head S&C coaches who had worked under him. That was several years ago. May be more now.
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4 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:
Did you say Pitt? You mean the same city that was on the Kendra Scott Express flight plan? The Pitt stop confused me.
I think that came out way up thread when everyone was trying to figure out what was in Pittsburgh. I can’t remember who looked it up. Might’ve been derpy...
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1 minute ago, hornfromdallas said:
nah bruh no bagman in the industry is matching what pantoni has done
not signing him will make the urban hire lose some luster
Maybe, but Nick Saban tried to get Tom Moffitt to leave LSU and go to Bama with him. Many consider Moffitt to be the best in the business. Moffitt sent his protege, Cochran, instead. I’d say it worked out ok for Saban.
Supposedly Pantoni has a protege at Pitt. I would rather have Pantoni, but I bet we’ll be ok. -
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Edited by Chili dog
Remove improper comma
Y’all gotta stop setting your expectations so high. I’m all for hope and optimism, but you always have to prepare for the worst case scenario. Expecting shit to go down today is just asking for heartache.
Personally, I think Urban has agreed in principle and we’re going to be very happy by this time next week, but I realize I’m putting a lot of faith in people with no apparent credibility or authority. I’m completely prepared for everything to fall through and for us to return to Macovic-era desolation and apathy. The distilleries will still make bourbon, there will still be good bbq, and I will still live in Texas. I lived through the mid to late 80s and 90s; I’ll live through this.