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  1. 1 hour ago, SuperSurly said:

    Dez will use this as motivation and probably have a good year or two with someone else.  Doesn't matter, that wasn't going to happen in Dallas.

    I don't doubt this. It will mostly be because another team is smart enough to figure out the best way to use him.

  2. 1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:
    11 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:
    Cutting Dez is a mistake made in classic Cowboy fashion.

    No. Keeping players who aren't performing and is an issue with the team would be classic Cowboys. Finally they don't have this blind loyalty. Only if they took this stance with Witten.

    Both are correct.

  3. 3 hours ago, BurdineBandit said:

    I'm with Mackey on this. 2-3 years ago guys were shutting down the Cowboys' passing attack by bracketing Dez, so Beasley and Witten feasted. Williams has always been Williams. He is very average even as a #2 receiver. Last year (and part of the year before) guys were shutting down our offense by bracketing Beasley after it became clear Dez lost a step. His days of requiring a safety over the top and blanket coverage are over.

    I've been pretty adamant for 2 years now that Dez need not be a focal point of the offense, for a mixture of reasons. Some of them on him, some of them on Dak, and some of them are just chemistry issues, but it's been apparent to me for 2 years that "get Dez into a rhythm, at any cost" was not a good offensive strategy. It caused forced passes from Dak to a receiver that sometimes wasn't open, sometimes wouldn't catch, or forced him into a throw that isn't his strong suit (Romo could float a jump ball to Dez, Dak isn't nearly as adept at that). Our offense was much more fluid relying on the ground game and then spreading the ball around to Beasley/Witten/Dez/Williams/whoever. But it was set up by the run game 1st, and the ability of everyone on the team to play to their strengths was sustainable. That's when our offense has been good.

    You're pretty much echoing my long term sentiments rather than opposing them. Dez clearly was not going to lead them to the promised land, and none of the other spares were damn sure going to do it. It was time than to start finding new recevers. Now they're pretty much starting from scratch. Dez could have been a valuable number 2 while they were stuck with him. Now they pretty much have a stable of threes, gimmick players, a couple of journeyman special teams types, and possibly a rookie that will keep them from getting a top safety or DT.

    They don't even have a backup running back now as insurance to rely on the running game, which was also necessary for insurance against a defense full of major flaws.

  4. 2 hours ago, Amobie said:

    No.. I think he's doing it for money.  If this was about "saving the country" he wouldn't have waited a year and tried to profit off of it.  

    There's definitely a strong possibility he could need the cash for a future legal defense.

  5. 3 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:
    14 minutes ago, youdunnf said:
    I knew it was coming, but it still sucks. Even if he signs with an nfc east team, it’ll be hard for me to not root for Dez. Favorite cowboy of all time. His passion had everything to do with how much he cares about winning. I’ll throw up the X until the day I die. 

    Cared about winning? Lmao. Wow. He cared about his stats and that's it. Don't believe his lip service. His actions proved he gave no shit about winning time and time again.

    Dez is like Jerry Jones. He really cares about winning. He just doesn't have a clue how to do it, despite extreme self-confidence.

  6. 18 minutes ago, Amobie said:

    I can think of 2 possible reasons.

    1) Give Dez a chance to find a new team before the draft so his options aren't as limited.

    2) (more likely) That they want other teams to think we are making WR a draft priority when we aren't...  

    The answer is: They just aren't very smart. Also see the way they cut Scandrick, a tradable player for whom they should have gotten some return for.

  7. 1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

    But Dez doesn't fit Dak at all. That was the issue. If Dez was as good as he thought, he would have made Dak better. Why is this on Dak to make Dez better as a 1 and 2 year starter when  Dez is supposed to be this great WR? Should be the other way around. People are saying watch Dez go succeed with Rodgers or Brady. Well shit, if Dez needs all pro QBs to succeed, that is kind of damning to him, right? 

    Dak needs guys who can run routes correctly and dependable when you throw them the ball. Dez was a one trick pony. And can be good at that but you have to have a QB who knows how to be a little unconventional at times i.e. throw it up. Dak is not a throw it up QB. He works best when he knows where guys will be. Dez was an ad lib WR who worked best when you tell him to just go up and get the ball. Like backyard football. Hell he's almost 30 and just now got around to learning a route tree or off the line separation.

    It's not. Beasley fell off the map and Williams became even less of a factor. Hurns isn't that guy by any stretch. He needs somebody else to draw coverage to be successful. They have nobody remaining to replace the only guy that could make a play. They needed to get one first, and phase out Dez, who could have served as a very good number 2 possession receiver in the short term. They should have started finding their new go-two guy two years ago.

  8. 1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

    I don't think we're locked in.  Does it become a priority?  Yes.  But we could go WR in the 2nd round or even 3rd..... Is anyone dead or just have a leg amputated?  We'll probably draft him in the 2nd.

    Yeah, I would rather Dallas just always trade away their number two and three every year by default. I've been saying that for about two decades now, because their typical philosophy with those picks is terribad.

  9. 5 minutes ago, Amobie said:

    Sucks it had to end like that but I can see the logic behind the move.  Definitely going to free up some cash.

     

     

    I give them credit for making a ballsy decision. But their long term plan was like most of their other long term plans, and they're going to have to get really lucky again to not take a step back.

  10. Hurns can do a lot of what Dez does. But he's a bit of a basket catcher. He's not going to win the contested balls and jump balls. He has a better feel for open spaces. He has to be used differently. The bigger question is if he can play healthy all season, and that's a big question. It's not something to be a season on.

  11. 1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

    Dez was not a legit #1, though. That was my point.

    No, he isn't. But he's the closest thing they had by far.

    Teams don't necessarily need an all-world guy, but those teams have really accurate passers like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. Dak pretty much needs that guy.

  12. 2 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

    Either you're full of shit or you should start picking stocks.

     

    Well, I'm the guy who got ripped a couple of years ago by everybody here because I was saying the Cowboys need to find a new number one receiver, because Dez ain't it.

  13. 3 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

    Not true at all. We don't need a 1st round guy to replace Dez. You can replace him with a 2nd/3rd round talent.

    It's not about replacing what they had in Dez. It's about getting a receiver that's actually a legit number one, which was a need with or without Dez. The odds of finding one got slimmer.

  14. Dez will sign with the Fecals. Just watch.

    3 minutes ago, Drew said:

    Easily get Miller in second round imo.  Or they’ll take whither WR gets to them at 19. I think at least 1 will make it. 

    Hell I saw a report saying Sutton would go before Ridley. Even better. 

    It's the wrong draft to find a number one receiver prospect. Lots of good complimentary types with questions with size/speed/scheme in later rounds, though.

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  15. 4 minutes ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

    Calvin Ridley was the only WR projected rd1 pick that the cowboys had for a pre-draft visit.  Still think they go DL in RD1 and save WR for 2nd or 3rd. 

     

    Without Dez they are almost locked in to drafting a WR in round 1. That's bad because now team's know they have to trade above Dallas to get Ridley or DJ Moore, and they'll probably miss out and have to reach like they usually do. Good possibility of a trade down to take a next-option guy, or have to trade up and burn some good picks, and end up with a domino effect shitty draft. We've seen that show before.

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