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  1. 3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    As a legal matter, using handling of The Eyes as a provable instance of insubordination doesn't thrill me.

    Any/all of this is probably just one of several negotiating points, but that one in particular seems a little too factually squishy.

    I agree. If something like that was the sole reason I was being asked to push someone out, I'd roll my eyes at shareholders/staff/whatever, strictly from just the business side as to whether it passed the smell test of legitimacy. I assume any lawyer being asked to advise on the same premise would back the eye roll. 

    That considered, I'm guessing that that particular issue is part of a bundle of issues that they're putting together in their case for a lowered buyout, and they're ginning up their base involved with that buyout via the coverage of the EOT issue. We know with a decent amount of certainty that the EOT/Lone Ehlinger premise was embarrassing to BMDs hearing about it from everyone they know. 

    I continue to maintain the belief, but maybe it's just hope, that they've uncovered/will uncover far more substantial examples of wild misbehavior from this clown and, with that, they give him and Armstrong the choice of that laundry being aired in public or the buyout getting cut in half or into 1/3 of the current total. 

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  2. So we lost the Sam Rayburn guy to SMU? Holy shit. There’s nothing left to follow until Herman gets 86’ed. What a pathetic class this will be unless we hire the right guy. Wow. That’s so depressing that I can’t even muster enough energy to be concerned. I’m  simply nonplussed. 

  3. 2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    The basic idea is, if we fire him "without cause," then the University has breached the contract and he's owed the balance of payments due under the contract, subject to his duty to go find another job to mitigate the damages (see Bielema, Bret), or as specified by the "buyout clause,"   If the money is "guaranteed," that means he has no obligation to mitigate.

    Every contract of this nature is going to have a "morality" or "moral turpitude" clause that forbids him from engaging in conduct that could reflect adversely on the University.

    If he is found to be doing something skanky that could reflect adversely on the University, that would mean he breached contract and is owed nothing and may even owe the University the costs of hiring a replacement.

    Whether the skanky activity actually triggers the morality clause is going to be a question for the court or a jury.  That means it is highly likely to become public and reflect adversely on Herman, possibly a career-killer.

    So, Herman could fight like hell, maybe with a chance of winning, but at substantial risk of both losing and getting jackshit, and of being exposed as some kind of perv or drunk or whatever.  And thus giving him incentive to settle for less than he might be owed.

    So, the discovery of skanky material could be a very nice negotiating point for the University to knock down the buyout by several million.  In an extreme case, it could eliminate the buyout entirely.

    I expected you, specifically, to respond to the bat signal. So, thanks and good post. Sounds like the effort to do something here besides “you’re right, Tom, here’s all the money” is worth the effort and a plausible outcome. Makes $15million start to sound a lot more like $5million and the machine would no doubt spin it that way. 

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  4. Just now, Viper said:

    what kind of stuff could herman have on his phone/device that would lower the buyout by so much?

    See, this is where the cadre of Surly lawyers would come in handy. Someone could examine the contract and give us a POV. 

    That considered, it’s a negotiation. You take your position and I take mine, they’ll be on opposite ends because this is contentious. Here are my facts. Show me yours. Now let me explain how that diminishes value for me. Then let me explain how long and ugly and public this will be for all of us. How confident are you versus taking something much smaller now?

    I’ve dealt with a few contentious exits of execs before, and usually it’s a negotiation. Dealt with a narcissistic motherfucker who had to go a few years back. He thought he had things in his favor right up until the actual depositions started and then he got religion, quick. But I’m not a lawyer and I don’t see this stuff all the time. I like to think things could go that way with Herman, though. 

  5. 32 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

    So what’s your take on a person who exhibits very strong characteristics of all of the above disorders?   Asking for a friend.

    Am I the friend?

    25 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

    So Herman’s buyout is 15mill on December 1st. Sounds like someone is going to get reassigned mid season till 12/1...

     

    12 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

    You know, I’m against knee jerk reactions and all but I don’t understand why we haven’t fired Tom and hired Urban already?  Like why wait?  He’s there for the taking and he will win.  He’d definitely whip the dogshit out of the sweaty pregnant meatball in Fort Worth...

    I discussed something tonight with a friend who isn’t involved, but he’s been around this stuff at many places and is around this one. Kind of a Ras Al Ghoul (sic?) type, I guess. 

    Herman’s arrogance and certitude that he’s right and sort of the “L’etat, c’est moi!” attitude that he’s exhibited - they lend themselves well to a forensic blueprint of bad behavior on company/AD devices. UT doesn’t normally quibble over buyouts with folks they fire, but this might be one in which a case is being built, there’s plenty to work with, and the target is to take the number from $15million to as low as possible. Making Trace Armstrong sort through the importance of Herman working again and what that is worth might be a part of this equation. Guys like Shaka Smart and Chuckles, largely liked people who couldn’t get it done, UT doesn’t do that shit. Here though? It’s not crazy to think it is part of the calculus. 

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

    My first graduate adviser was a narcissistic, he had hero worship (Apollo astronauts) and he could be both extremely charismatic and horrible and you never knew which version you would get.  He was brilliant in his work, gave back to the university, believed in charity, and advised a student to go to seminary school instead of continuing his graduate studies when the student was torn between his life pursuit.    He got off the phone one day after apologizing to a colleague about failing to include him as a co-author- then told me "I would have fucking sued his ass if he did that to me."   He saw what he wanted to see,  he would pick a student to shit on and would be merciless in his criticism, and then move on to a new one.  He stated to me that he needed to 'break students down and then to rebuild them' and he always saw himself as the victim, as if everyone else was trying to get one over on him.   

    At one conference we walked up to a group of people he knew, and they had that "oh shit, look at who is coming" and as he approached several broke off and simply walked away.   I also remember this pissed off look on his face when I called for a taxi to take another student and myself to the airport and a limo showed up.  He had this fucking shocked and hateful look in his eyes as he loaded into his rental car.     

    But I suppose there are degrees of this disorder.   Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

     

     

    The more I've read and then related things back to my work and experiences, the more I've come to believe that we're all trending towards some sort of disorder. The human brain is still very poorly understood and very powerful, so who knows what's right. The stats I see thrown about regularly as though they're irrefutable from the psychology writers in articles, white papers, and even books are that something akin to 5-7% of the population has a true disorder - narcissism, sociopathy, genius, bipolar, histrionic.

    Sociopaths are viewed as the most common, something like 2-4% of the population are the estimates I've seen. It's pretty scary but also not entirely unbelievable to consider that 1 out of every 25-50 people is literally walking around without a conscience. True versions of the rest are rare to super rare (genius). Sounds like your guy was on the narcissism spectrum, no doubt. 

    I'll stop the non sequitur rambling. Back to the discussion about how Hermanta Claus is planning a new gift for each of us at the next PC or Baylor game. 

  7. 24 minutes ago, Bevo said:

    I'm sure this is true and everyone loves shitting on coaches especially ones who are about to be fired. But, there are tons of guys who are little shits who are successful. Saban is a little shit who cheats both legally and illegally and all of his minions have gone on to other schools and continued along the same path. Urban, who I hope we hire, may or may not be a little shit but he definitely is a pussy who quits when things don't go his way. So, all these anecdotal stories about Herman don't move the needle much. For whatever reason, he has lost too many games here and the fanbase isn't going to put up with a guy who they don't like when he loses.

    But, the analytical side of me loves to try to figure out what went wrong. By all accounts his first hires were meh and maybe that was all it took to do him in. But the second hires seemed more aligned with UT. Yurcich seemed like a good hire, WR hire not so much, and our DB hire was much better than expected. And I think we should have brought in a LB grad transfer and there were some small school guys available at OT and DE. Those guys would have definitely helped. But, the problem isn't simply personnel. We aren't playing anywhere near our potential. Something more seems to be going on.

    Stories like those I posted aren’t being put out there to “move the needle”. It’s a fan board. I figure it’s something to pass time if you don’t take it too seriously until there’s actual news. 

    Regarding what went wrong, my personal bias has always been, from the start with this guy, that he’s a narcissist, clinically. He has all the hallmarks of one from everything I’ve ever read, but I’m not a doctor (I know you are), so I know it’s harder to diagnose than just knowing the texts.

    That said, I’ve dealt with a few that behave similarly and they caused as much or more damage in their spheres of power, relatively speaking. Narcissists stop learning once it hits them that the world really does revolve around them. They stop taking any responsibility for failings, and therefore stop actually developing to overcome blindspots or experience gaps that will only grow. Every bad thing they encounter can safely be attributed to someone else’s failings or inaction. Every good thing that happens is because it was preordained, given their brilliance and near omnipotence. 

    If you look at Herman, over and over these things come to light. He blames others constantly for anything going wrong and is incredulous that they’d dare let it happen to him and his regime. He preens and lauds his own performance at the first hint of success. On and on. 

    Narcissists stop learning at the onset of the disorder in puberty, and whatever actual talent and magic made them think they were special once upon a time, gets passed by the hard work and learnings of others as they and their peer set hit the late 30’s into the 40’s. It’s like the star athletes who get by, and dominate, on supreme talent until they hit the level in which that’s no longer enough and it’s too ingrained at that point for them to adjust.

    I’d much prefer a sociopath. They learn and evolve. They’re just emotionally detached robots who can become dangerous and don’t know where to draw lines. Give me one with a motivating mechanism of power or achievement (vs gluttony, sloth, or something like bloodlust), and I can show you a football program winning championships. Urban Meyer trends that direction. Saban flat out is one. Some of us have good friends way inside his regime and they’ll never admit it, but their stories and his public behaviors show it in spades. Art Briles is exemplary of an unchecked sociopath in power insouciantly letting things spin wildly out of control, which is always your risk with that type. 

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  8. 19 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

    What a fucking beating. For the first time I can remember, every topic on this board is bolded because I don't have the fucking energy or desire to wade in and engage, to find out what is going on. Definitely not the aTm threads. Definitely not the OU threads. Fuck Tom Herman and Texas threads. 

    I think I might be taking the rest of the fall off. 

    What kind of bullshit nonsense is this? Pull yourself together. 

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    2 hours ago, victory88 said:

    No to PJ Fleck.  I'd rather fucking have Matt Campbell who knows how to beat Lincoln Riley and has experience in the Big 12.  

    With that said, neither Campbell or Fleck will be able to get this shit fixed.  It has to be Urban.  He's the only one that can come in and go toe toe with LSU, Bama, Clemson, tOSU, ou in the recruiting trail.  He's the only one that will be able to convince ELITE assistant coaches to come here.  Outside of Urban, you need to look at Mullen, Cristobal, and Malzahn.  Both understand how recruiting works and both have run upper level P5 programs for multiple successful seasons.  If neither of them wants to come, then fuck it... go for Herm Edwards.  I thought that guy was going to fucking fail flat on his face and he has ASU recruiting well and winning games.  

     

    35 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

    The only answer is Urban.  We've tried the "up and coming" defensive disciplinarian.  We've tried the "up and coming" offensive hotshot with local ties.  Now it's time to act like we are the University of Texas.  If Urban says no, make a better offer and ask again.  There's no excuse for not being able to pull a guy away from doing pregame shows to coach this team.

    I don't want to bring you boys or anyone else down off of your highs, but I think you've got to look at Urban Meyer as a long shot right now. I have zero doubt there's potential for mutual interest. I just expect Texas to fuck it all up and have him throw his hands up and walk away, waiting for the shitshow to unfold at USC. 

    As things sit now, Texas is already fucking everything up. They're letting Herman maintain "control" of the program when they know with certainty that he's not the guy going forward. "Don't lose another game" is an arbitrary edict when you fully expect him to do so and know that you'll have to then do something anyway. This guy is a cancer and he should have already been shitcanned. Every day that goes by with him at the helm digs the hole deeper for the next guy. 

    Unlike many, I guess, here, I'd take Matt Campbell as a consolation prize. I love the recruiting board and I've religiously followed college recruiting since childhood, but Herman and Strong have fully disavowed me of the belief that acquiring enough talent can overcome significant coaching deficiencies. At least with Campbell, we will see players getting developed while watching teams appearing well-coached versus their opponents. Can he win a national title? I don't know. Is he far better than most of the alternatives, I think so.

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    28 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

    It says a lot. He said Sunday he has a 25% chance of staying. He’s now saying after learning more, it’s much less than that. I wasn’t convinced Herman was done. I am now - if Nahlin is the type to not make shit up. Is he Chip or Ketch, or actually good?

     

    27 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

    He’s definitely not chip or ketch.  He has integrity.  

    Nahlin has flagrantly made shit up in his career. I witnessed it first hand on multiple occasions. He viewed it as a means to an end with the "everybody does it" justification. That considered, that was a decade ago. Has the guy matured, gotten better contacts and resources, and developed a sense of integrity when it comes to reporting? I hope so. People can change. 

    In an ironic twist, you can now damned sure trust info on stuff like this coming from IT based on changes made this summer. So, sure, take some heart that Nahlin is comparing notes and going with info from multiple confirmed sources. 

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  11. I'm in the "he'll figure out a way to weasel into 6-4" camp. Could the team go 3-7? For sure. They almost lost to KU last year and should have lost to Tech this year. Anything can happen with this idiot, but he's got enough talent to be the pussy he craves to be. Simply keep everything close, hope Ehlinger can pull something out at the end or he can sit on a lead until the game is over. 

    This team is so brutally undisciplined and committing the same mistakes it's been making during his entire regime, and then that gets coupled with all of his stupid-ass tendencies. It's extremely nauseating and tedious to witness at this point. 

    I hope the rumors are true and that him being gone is a done deal. CDC balked at doing anything last year. He better have his shit together right now. 

    Just like many others, fuck it, I'll take Urban Meyer. That said, if that turns out to be the fantasy it appears to be, I sure as shit hope they hire someone who can actually fucking coach and outwork opponents from the X's and O's POV above all things. It has been forever and a day since we had that. In fact, I'm not sure I've been alive since it occurred. I was too young to remember Akers before the 1984 Cotton Bowl and, yeah. McWilliams? No. Mackovic? On some level, occasionally, but not really. Mack Brown? Please. Chuckles? Oh fuck. Herman? LOL. Brutal.

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  12. 1 hour ago, ConferenceRoom said:

    My god, people in here shitting on rye. 2020 is a fuck.

    No shit. I drink a rye manhattan nightly and they’re the best. If you’ve got a problem with rye, it’s because you’re doing it wrong and drinking the rot gut. 

    Regarding Herman and recruiting - shit fire and save matches. There’s no way this buffoon cockroaches his way into a season saving win streak is there? Seems absurd at this point. 

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    2 hours ago, golfclap said:

    I know that it’s the current flavor to blame even the barometric pressure on Herman, perhaps point to the troubles in the Middle East, but Coleman and Boulware handle the WR/TE player rotations and Yurcich the game plan and packages so while Herman’s trade wars continue to impact our economy let’s be sure to blame the right idiot for the situation. 

    Smith has lacked attention to detail his entire time here and given Coleman’s extreme focus on those details, this wouldn’t be a huge surprise. It would suck ass, but: 2020. 

    If you think Herman isn't playing a role with personnel sets, the same way he has since he got here, and seeing that it's being reflected on the field in the same way since he got here, it's you with your head up your ass, golfclap. Yurcich is nothing more than his yes man. We just watched some of the same bad shit in the last two games that we've now been watching for the entire regime. I literally called the first two plays of the Turtle Tom drive on Saturday and anyone paying attention can guess with a fairly high amount of confidence about the likelihood of a limited set of plays at various downs, distances, and moments during the game. He learned from his mentor, Greg Davis, very effectively. 

    So no, I won't blame world events on our own Hermiliation, but I will blame the fucking clown for trotting out the same bullshit behaviors, calls, and personnel choices for yet another year. 

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  14. On 10/6/2020 at 12:31 PM, shadow_operative said:

    huh? 

    I believe it was TheFlagship (probably, but could be wrong) that showed up here earlier than you and took the Derka handle(s?). Then he went about acting like a piece of shit under the handle. Then he went back to his other handle and bragged about how amazingly fucking clever he was for what he'd done once you showed up and were pissed about it. 

    It was a bitch move. 

    Anyway, that's probably what wd40 is recalling, or he could just be Derka-trolling and you're about to give him a payoff. I don't know. 

  15. 2 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

    He had some legit info for a while, so people (self included) assumed it was you fucking with us during Covid boredom.

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    I don't create socks. My trolling would have been more creative, if I had been interested. Truth is, I couldn't get interested in the boards. I went on a month-long road trip across the country with my wife and kids (without decapitating an RV), married off my oldest daughter on a different trip to California, helped get two businesses launched, played a bunch of golf, fished a bunch, read a bunch of books, focused on the kids and my day job, and woke up one day and Texas was playing UTEP. That flipped the switch, a little at least, but I couldn't get interested for a good long while. Still haven't watched a single pitch of MLB this year for some reason. 

    Anyway, SHAME!!! SHAME!!! Good lord. 

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