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28 minutes ago, Thiefery said:
So odds on favorite this Monday morning is Golding still?
24 minutes ago, Fud said:Golding is 100% tea leaf reading, so I guess it depends on how much stock you put into that
This is absolutely correct. Might it be Golding? Ok, sure. That is conjured from the minds of $9.95ers either way. They’re deductive and know the space, so they might get it right. I do not believe for a second that any of them know with any level of confidence or depth.
A simple test on things like this is how much chirping and rechirping they’re all doing, to the point where it becomes crowing. We’ve watched it for years, you know how it works.
When I read or hear “it’s gotta be, doesn’t it?” followed by a bunch of circumstantial reasoning, I’m immediately dubious. That’s the case here.
6 minutes ago, FloridaHorn said:I told my son the same thing yesterday. Sark and CDC have done a great job controlling the narrative to this point. Why not drop a couple of names just prior to game time for some free publicity and to get a few key recruits attention?
No one is going to give one shit about a DC rumor at Texas just before a CFBNT game between two big, undefeated brands. That’s fantasy.
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2 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:
Assuming it is Golding would yall rather have:
Golding DC/LB- Raymond CB- Joseph Safeties
Golding DC/LB- Scott CB- Joseph Safeties
Golding DC/CB- Lupoi DC/LB- Joseph Safeties
Why do I have to assume this?
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Can we not fix this fucking title and have some color and fun on this board? Christ.
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18 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:
I look forward to a DC being named that has been on no 9.95r or surly list.
This is my expectation and I’m going to be disappointed if it turns out otherwise.
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58 minutes ago, Message Board User said:
There's always a SydneyCarton.
This may be my favorite line for 2021 so far.
25 minutes ago, Vertigo said:So Sydney is an aggy bag man? How am I not surprised.
6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:You are such a cock gobbler, CTJ.
fun fact everyone, he is in fact joking.
It is honestly pathetic how much entertainment I derived from this.
Can you shed light on who is the culprit though?
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7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:You don’t go from offering the OU WR coach $1MM to keeping Coleman in 48 hours.
You do on Surly, sir.
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23 minutes ago, cochamps said:Pos rec for a very solid post, but fuck off for the vanilla ice cream analogy. That was pathetic.
This post is like salted caramel ice cream. It’s a little bit sweet, and then a little bit salty.
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I hope you guys have your pitchforks sharpened. My understanding is that the guy doing the steering towards ATM is @SydneyCarton’s redass aggie relative on the staff there at LJ’s school and I’m not even joking. Solid work, bud.
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I guess I’ll go ahead and say it: Chris Ash can lick our collective asshole, pack his shit, and head for the state border.
He was a fucking bum at Rutgers. Just complete trash in every way. He showed up here with his own brand of cronyism and mediocrity by imposing inexperienced trash on the program with the Valai hire. Valai immediately sprinted out and took a hogger-sized dump on the 50 yard line of the Texas program by being worthless as a coach and a nonentity in recruiting.
Ash delivered vanilla ice cream competence. Nothing special or unique, just gave the defense a vague hint of average. Outside of some time under Meyer while surrounded by other star coaches, Ash has amounted to sad comedy at worst and meh-relevance at best. Hit the fucking bricks, buddy, we’ll take our chances in the open market.
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This thread title needs an enhancement. All Bags, No Brakes is just sitting there waiting to be taken.
I plan on launching a 2024 thread with the tag line “Show Me Your Cause” or “Martinis, They’re What’s For Breakfast” soon.
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5 hours ago, Kurt Bowels said:Did Millwee turn down Butch Jones or did he get passed over? Aren't there reports coming out now that he got passed over? Yeah, it is probably unrealistic for him to take an analyst role for one more year. Just trying to make sense of everything.
A simple fucking google search reveals the press release links for Milwee being officially announced at Arkansas State. What more is needed for shit like that.
5 hours ago, canadianhorn21 said:It's been reported Milwee isn't a big recruiting guy as well. Just a thought.
This is just repeating a stupid fucking take from Eric Nahlin who doesn’t know shit about Milwee as a recruiter. No one tracked him as a recruiter at Akron. No one can now credibly report on him from his time at Akron. He was an analyst at Bama that everyone there thought highly of and was the first guy Butch Jones, and then Sarkisian, grabbed when leaving for a position coach role. No one gets to not be aggressive in recruiting at Bama.
I am going to start happily negging every post going forward that mentions Milwee as a weak recruiter. The truth is, he might wind up being a shitty recruiter, but that will only be discovered, same as if he’s awesome at it, at Texas.
5 hours ago, Teryor said:He wasn't recruiting because he was an analyst what the fuck are we even doing at this point suggesting our QB coach isn't going on the road
"Hey Quinn Ewers, you know the guy who would be working with you on a daily basis? He would love to be here to see you but can't because he's not allowed to recruit off-campus"
Agreed. The level of stupid and just pure bizarre ignorance on this thread today, after reading and catching up is just stunning, even for this site.
Golding has gone from pure fan fiction to the de facto, matter of fact guy that Sarkisian has hired at DC, in roughly 3 days. Further, Sirmon went from a joke on this thread that looked serious to someone that the fucking $9.95ers actually started reporting on.
Joseph and Milwee are apparently coming here to be analysts.
Joseph is also apparently an underwhelming hire?
I mean, get the fuck out of here with this shit.
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31 minutes ago, Getafix said:
Aaaarrrggghhhhh. I was quickly typing while waiting on the doc during an eye exam. That’s what I get for not getting to proofread.
29 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:May be nothing, but may suggest The LB coach is out (as suspected).
It could just be that he should have never been recruited at Texas and was one of the slowest LBs since Dusty Renfro.
28 minutes ago, Machinator said:Not sure about that. Dele was just never a fit for the style of football player these days unless you're in the Big Ten.
I remember on the recruiting board, at some point breaking the news that during practices right after he arrived that he was clearly the slowest non-lineman on the team. Had to have been on Shaggy. Can’t remember who, but there had to have been some howling from some of the regulars back then. The poor bastard would probably all-conference at Northwestern or Minnesota or something.
13 minutes ago, texifornia said:See excuse fed to @Getafix, sir.
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7 minutes ago, Handcruser said:
I don’t think it’s been “just here”. Several “sources” have hinted about a possible change at Bama which would mean Golding might be available.Yeah, that’s covered in the thread but it is moving fast. My point is why is Surly taking this Golding shit at face value. It’s come from idol speculation on the Bama boards and the Texas gurus who don’t know shit right now. There’s no substance to the rumor.
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47 minutes ago, Machinator said:
Mike Roach on Lupoi:
Not a ton of movement on that front, but I thought I'd share where things are.
I spoke to a source close to Lupoi. I was told he has had iniital conversations with Sarkisian but nothing formal at this point as far as this source knew. Another source I spoke with said that Tosh has several options he's looking at including several NFL jobs. What he wants is a fast track to being a head coach. If Lupoi were to come to Texas, it would have to be under the DC title according to this source. Lupoi was last a DC for Alabama in the 2018-2019 season before making the move to the NFL.
There is so much baggage with Tosh Lupoi that even if he was worth consideration somewhere as a HC, he couldn’t pass a rudimentary background check. This is either just stupidly bad information being fed to Roach or just an idiotic expectation from Lupoi.
9 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:No offer means they either already have the guy - or they are waiting on their number 1 to come available.
Did they make an offer to Freeman and are waiting a response?
Are they waiting on Golding until after the title game?
Quinn, Lupoi would be available today.
Ansley, if he is an option at DC, might be worth waiting a few weeks on given the situation at Tennessee.
1) I don’t think you guys are giving proper credit to the premise that Sarkisian might simply be waiting until after the NCG to interview a few guys with Muschamp falling through.
2) Why is this “Golding is being fired at Bama” concept taking off here? It doesn’t seem grounded and it appears to have just sprung up once people started looking at who Sarkisian might steal from Bama’s staff.
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Thanks. Yeah, I’m of the opinion that, in today’s CFB world, if you’re haven’t gotten it done by year 3, you’re not going to get it done. Might be some exceptions, but I’ll stick with that premise. National guys can talk to people around a program and get a feel. Either Galloway didn’t do his homework before that rant or he didn’t want what he knew getting in the way of a good rundown. Another year of Herman and we’re looking at a two class average of probably 50-ish.
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35 minutes ago, JPETERMAN said:
And this is why the outrage from the national media, i.e. Joey Galloway is completely stupid. Giving Herman more time to turn it around was never really an option. I'll take a 1-2 day hit in the headlines all day long for not being fair or giving him enough time to turn things around. Things would only have gotten worse by retaining him, as you all know. But seeing the above is still pretty shocking tbh.
I haven’t paid attention. Has there been some sort of media blowback about Herman? What’s the Galloway story?
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2 minutes ago, Machinator said:
Arnett and Freeman are on the same tier for me. Arnett gets the edge because there's no uncertainty about the head coach / DC dynamic that Freeman and Fickell have.
Dan Quinn
Chris Ash
People that really know the college coaching ranks seem to believe that Freeman is a bad ass. If he goes to LSU, there is suspicion that part of what they may value in him is that he could replace Orgeron under certain circumstances.
1 minute ago, GTX Horn said:If Wiggins stays at Bama, would Tee Martin still be on the table? That wouldn’t be a bad consolation at all IMO.
Martin is a known dirtbag when it comes to recruiting. I'm less excited about hiring a guy with his history while his current staff is under investigation and headed to some potentially ugly discoveries that could make it a problem to have him on UT's payroll. There are better choices to be made right now.
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11 hours ago, Vertigo said:
Wut? How can a young QB coach not be into recruiting?
4 hours ago, RGBIII said:Joe Brady. Some think they are above it
4 hours ago, texifornia said:Yeah. Recruiting chops are more of a nice-to-have there, as long as they can connect with their one big target every year.
21 minutes ago, dcar00 said:its gonna be on Sark to recruit the QB. Just have to make sure QB coach is liked by the recruit.
Like with all of the other shit flying all over the place right now regarding the new staff, we should be pretty open-minded about whether or not the Milwee guy can recruit, wants to recruit, can evaluate, wants to evaluate, etc. Nahlin says shit as a matter of fact when he quite often has no fucking clue.
How do I know? Because not anyone here, not Nahlin, not any of the other "gurus" has a fucking clue how this guy recruited at Akron. Not anyone, anywhere, besides people involved with Bama on the inside know whether or not he played any kind of role in recruiting, and how effectively to boot, while serving as an analyst at Bama. One thing I do know, for certain, is that eeeeeeeeveryfuckingbody on the Bama staff is required to be aggressive on the recruiting front, unless they're a clown like Mike Stoops.
Let's at least wait a bit before we turn "AJ Milwee doesn't give a shit about recruiting/can't recruit" into a board trope. There's zero merit in it until we witness his acumen, or lack thereof, firsthand. This is the first time in his career anyone will be able to assess what kind of recruiter he actually is.
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Regarding Milwee, Arkansas State PR'd his addition as the OC on 12/28/20. If you go to their site now, you can't find shit about him. He's been scrubbed from the site. Here's the link to the coaching page: https://astateredwolves.com/sports/football/coaches . Anyway, hadn't seen this mentioned, but it obviously makes it clear that he's going to be the QB Coach.
Another thing I haven't seen discussed is whether or not the open positions have been publicly filed yet? I know the HC role is exempt from that requirement, but I was assuming the lower roles still had to do it. It would be great if they don't, but that would be news, and if they still have to be posted, has anyone tracked that?
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22 hours ago, Machinator said:
Against which team was LSU bidding?
I heard Rick Neuheisel, who apparently knows Peetz well, do everything he could to say that this was a bizarre and terrible hire for LSU - without actually saying it. This was on Full Ride with Childers yesterday morning. He had a compelling argument for what he was *not* saying but saying.
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1 hour ago, quigley said:
I don't want to overstate the problem. OU's OL will still be among the best in the nation, and may be as good or better than 2020 despite losing two guys to NFL. They have depth, and options. But they don't project to be elite like the lines from 2015 (after UT game) to 2018. Two answers to the question of why. First, the facts:
Oh man, so good. I laugh hard every time I see shit like this from sooners. They do it with a straight face.
We've got a celebrity poster among us, boy and girls! Bob Stoops has joined the Surly $9.95-er board under the handle of "quigley". Welcome, sir, and enjoy the dicks.
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For Georgia to face anything real, they had to have really fucked something up somewhere. It's plausible. They haven't been nearly as thorough in their work as the competition, but I'm still a skeptic that anything real is going to cause a significant punishment from the NCAA.
I have to wonder what the OL was asking for from these schools. Was he funneling money to an arms deal or a human trafficking ring? Since when is anyone in the SEC giving a shit about a recruiting battle? It has to be a crazy story.
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6 minutes ago, closetohumping said:
That would mean it's likely Golding
It just means the guy hasn't interviewed his candidates yet, after his first option fell through. Golding has been Saban's golden boy. I'd like to see exactly where the "Bama is firing Golding after the NT game" bullshit started. Might it happen? Sure, Saban churns through staff. Is it going to? Where did the original thread of that notion start to get pulled? It comes across as bullshit and I haven't seen any smoke from Texas or Bama on it, but maybe there's something that I missed as this thread flies by here.
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3 minutes ago, Machinator said:Nahlin knows exactly what he's doing by saying Jeff Banks has the "pole position"
Ha, reread the whole section on Banks. It's even better than that.
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Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
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Wow, this one is really enlightening. Right.
There seem to be a group of staff members that were correctly assessed when Gerry first released the list of guys coming with Sark: Flood, Milwee, Davis; some that would stay: Drayton, Carrington (if BC wasn't part of the list, it was disclosed through channels almost immediately that he'd be sticking from the same kind of source); and then some that were kiboshed but correct in original plan: Muschamp (kiboshed by Muschamp), Stoops (by BMD, thankfully), Banks (Saban wants to keep him, so he either sticks or doesn't announce a departure that can be confirmed until after tonight); and then some spitballing from whoever provided the info, such as Colbert and Lupoi. That source actually looks like it had its shit together.
Since then, everything from the $9.95 side of things has been chasing hypotheses and I see nothing new today in that vein. Wiggins, Simmons, Raymond, Freeman, Arnett, Odom, Huff, Scott, Golding, Quinn, etc., all looking like dry wells or lucky guesses.
Then you have Gideon happening without prior commentary on him. Next is Joseph coming out of nowhere. Now you have Coleman as "being with the WRs" but we don't know in what capacity. I think we're at the point where the $9.95ers don't have anything worth mentioning beyond the original material, so it's everyone's best guess. Guys like Nahlin acting like they know jack shit about the DC are playing charades.
I'm guessing there is a huge flurry of official announcements tomorrow morning before Sarkisian's PC. If not then, surely immediately afterward.
One note regarding Coleman: Bama uses analysts as assistants in all facets except being able to put them on the road recruiting. Those dudes coach practice, during the games, do evaluations, contact recruits and take calls/texts with them, etc. Texas is paying Coleman his on-field assistant salary no matter what. Sarkisian likes him as a coach. This could very easily be a situation in which Coleman gets to get paid and coach the way he wants while not having to go on the road and recruit, which he doesn't like. So that frees up a spot to bring on a partner who likes to do the recruiting and will be happy to split the coaching work and get paid. Maybe not, but that's actually the idea I like best at this point, and it makes more sense than anything else I've heard, so I'll go with that over $9.95 speculative stuff to the contrary.