Posts posted by closetojumping
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53 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:
The names I've seen mentioned are Harold Perkins, Denver Harris, Kam Dewberry, Bear Alexander, Kelvin Banks. Yes, that's more than 3, I know.
Perkins, Harris, and Banks (sounds like a law firm, eh?) seem friends with the ones who already committed to A&M. But there are so many examples each year where "package deals" especially ones with multiple players, almost never come true. Those are more like wish lists. But it helps to have committed players happily, openly recruiting the others to come join them. Landing Perkins and Harris would be a coup, no doubt.
It's Dewberry, Perkins and Taylor if anything happens fast. There was a shit ton of chatter about it happening between TH-Sun, so it might not be happening. Not saying the other guys aren't possibilities for ATM, but hope that helps.
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I think the Chang vs Hughes/Sarkisian concern from @SydneyCarton, @golfclap, and @Ricky's one-hitter is worthy of examination, but I struggle to get behind it until more comes out about what's going on.
For one, while I'm of the opinion that Chang's team was solid at evaluations, I don't think that's an exclusive feature for a good recruiting department. That should be table stakes for anyone in that role at a program of Texas' reach. Hughes has plenty of skins on the wall to point at from UCF forward in his own right. The handwringing over trading out Hughes for Chang is unwarranted from the "can the new guy meet the performance of the old guy?" concern.
So I don't get the big deal about wanting to replace a person in a key role with your guy. There doesn't seem to have been any hesitation about that move by Sarkisian. Maybe you guys don't see this as a turnaround since it was one of the elements that was fine under Herman, but that's never how hostile regime change works. It's actually shocking that Sarkisian has kept as many on-field and off-field staff as he has. "I don't care how they were doing it. That got everyone fired. If I'm going to get fired or win, we're going to face that doing it my way."
So then you're left with a speed to market issue. The program is playing from behind on offseason work such as tournament and camp attendance. Okay. The notion that the new guy should hit the ground running immediately with "3 to 4 of his guys" is an easy thing to say, and a harder thing to do. Know how I know? I've done it, at times with even more than "3 to 4 guys" in tow. Not in football, but in the same fashion. Asking people to uproot immediately and be at the next place overnight is easier said than done. The less money they're making, even if you're offering a step-up, the less quickly many can move. This isn't a fucking movie. This isn't Oceans 14 - Austin Style, where everyone converges on Bellmont at the same time, high-fiving and grabbing cell phones to make calls all at once, shortly after a travel montage set to Weeknd's "Blinding Lights" or some shit shows them getting there from disparate locations.
The timing expectation provided around this premise is absurd. Sarkisian didn't know he had the job until roughly NYD. Then outreach might begin in earnest, while balancing CFbP needs for 12 days. How much time, given all of that and whenever he spoke to Hughes, is Hughes supposed to have had to have his "3 or 4 guys" fucking sewn up, packed, moved, and in-territory recruiting and gladhanding? It's 1/25.
This Hughes dude's background includes installing a frontline of students doing research and analysis, coordinating with the on-campus relations partner, and then building out the full-time staff for off-campus relations, camp creations, etc. If he and Chang didn't handle it the same way, he's going to want it done his way.
2021 is a sunk cost for the new off-field staff. Maybe they get lucky following a lead or two, but that's it besides the obvious pre-existing targets. So they're late to the party on 2022 and 2023? Take the effort to do it right the first time and count on performance and brand to sling-shot the program forward again once you've laid a foundation on bedrock.
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16 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:
Before we all go too crazy deifying Julius Peppers let's not forget that Robbie fucking Doane held him without a sack and to maybe one pressure in Austin, much to @closetojumping's consternation.
Hahahahaha. Holy shit. The “smooth buttfucking” that never happened. I still remember Robbie Doane’s dad angrily contacting me before the game and then telling me he’d be a 1st round pick when responding after the Texas win.
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3 hours ago, JPETERMAN said:
I don't spend much time, if any, on the football boards typically because I can smoke my own damn brisket without having to look at pictures of everyone elses. The coaching search was another story though as that clearly has huge implications for our future. I usually just lurk in recruiting and read info from people in the know, like you. So I appreciate all of your insights throughout the years. But this question doesn't have a clear answer one way or another. There are pros and cons to each outcome that can be debated. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean it's a "hawt" take or that their opinion is wrong. It's a preference. And mine would be to get LJ.
I never said I don't give a fuck about the 2021 season. Of course it matters. If we get to or even win the big 12 title game, that is obviously a significant storyline that we can sell. How much does bringing Gray into the fold instead of LJ increase the odds of that happening? I'd guess very, very little. Bijan should get the vast majority of playing time since Sark has proven that he can give a rb more than 12 carries in a game. If our backup RB is getting more than 6-8 touches next year in a close game, then something has likely gone wrong. ROJO and LJ would be more than capable of performing that duty. Having LJ for 4 years, the last 3 of which we hopefully will have a shot at being a legitimate playoff contender is worth more than having 2 years of Gray when the first year we are clearly going to be learning new systems and not in the hunt for the playoffs. But apparently that is an unreasonable take so I'll fuck off and go back to lurking for a while I guess.
I gave you a hard time about acting like the 2021 season is a throwaway for the program, not preferring LJJ. The TB preference is obviously subjective.
Have some thicker skin and keep posting, JPETERMAN. Don’t let opinionated assholes like me run you off.
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23 minutes ago, Landomatic said:
Really? I thought the Loge one seemed like a pretty good deal, depending on what all comes with that. Especially the way @closetojumping and @Sydney Cartoon did it. Split the one time "gift" so you're in for $75K...people spend more than that on a car, boat, RV (sound famiar?), etc all the time. Then $8K a year for 2 seats...that's only about $335 per seat per month. Again, probably spending that plus to use said boat or RV. And some or all of this is probably tax deductible. Seems like a fairly reasonably priced hobby to me. Hell most decent country club memberships are more than that. Yeah the big ones are a little different level, but it's all relative.
4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:This is exactly how I viewed it. And yeah, the gift is also paid off over time, otherwise I couldn't have swung it. I also viewed it as something to bring my son to and a long term experience and activity for us to bond over as he grows up. When the gameday improvements started rolling in it just seemed like a worthwhile investment for my family.
and if Texas ever starts winning there’s still the possibility the seats actually become more valuable.
I’m just going to go with @Wulaw Horn’s premise and call it a day. Rolling 9 deep and banking 7+ yearly. Woot!
In truth, it’s not all wrong but remember the capital gift is fully tax deductible. I think the $8k a year is too, but I’m not sure. I’m pretty sure I’ll do that part through a business or something anyway.
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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:
Do you get ou ticket options when you buy a suite like that, and if so do you yet know the quality of the tickets?
No clue. I’ve never had season tickets before and never looked into it. I have to think we will, with the contribution levels plus this. All of the sudden, my wife is hoping/expecting that we’re going to the RRS this year, so we better get a look.
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9 minutes ago, Fud said:
Per Gerry, a 2022 LB/ATH recently tried to commit, but wasn’t allowed to
7 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:Saban'd
The staff needs to meet and put a full target map together before they’re going to be willing to take anyone else that isn’t a dead nuts lock 5 star. Even the Winfield take had apprehension around it, supposedly.
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@SydneyCarton and I got a loge suite. 4 seats, catered and covered. I haven’t given it much thought since signing on for it in 2019, but looking at the photos now and realizing we’re not that far away is fun.
Having a new regime is even better news, and opening against a good Louisiana team that will probably be ranked is also good to think about.
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17 hours ago, quigley said:
I think closetojumping is right. But Sark erred if he said it about "opt-outs" or transfers. If Sark denigrates players by calling them quitters it'll reflect badly on him and his ability to recruit.
It's also bad look for a dude who broke a contract himself this year.
He didn’t break a contract. Get your shit together. He was offered a higher level position and was not contractually obligated to abstain from taking it.
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15 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:Would LJ or E. Gray have you more excited for next year? LJ is a more exciting prospect, right?
LJ is a legit NFL prospect if he decides he actually wants to compete and be a football player at the next level. Gray doesn’t have any question marks as a college running back. Give me Gray. Potential doesn’t pay the rent.
15 hours ago, JPETERMAN said:Next year is not what I'm excited/worried about. Maybe we are good. Maybe we won't be. It's not like we are going to be in the playoffs. So who cares. Next year gets a pass with new coaches and a new QB. Talk to me about 3 years from now.
Therefore I'd be more excited about LJ. Because we better enjoy Bijan while he is here, cuz he isn't staying long. But while he is, Sark is going to feed him. And ROJO is fine to spell him for the time being until LJ gets up to speed.
Now if Gray can bring his LB friend along with him, then give me the Tennesee guys and I'll take my chances of landing Blue next year and not be too worried about LJ.
I don’t know if the recruiting board is a good transition forum for you after the coaching search. There are a lot of good football threads on the football board where you can post a lot of words and hawt takes in a safe environment.
Coming to this board and telling us you don’t give a fuck about the 2021 season and not really seeming to grasp why it matters for the future, or that Texas has the talent to be a top 15 team next year, isn’t going to help much. Not knowing that there are 12 games in a regular season college football calendar for all teams is also a grim beginning to your journey here.
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5 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:
Devon Campbell is from Arlington, is the higher ranked player, is the bigger need (O-line), and has long thought to be a Texas lean. I'm guessing Campbell is the reference here.
I got it clarified. It's Campbell.
Also for clarity, not all of the guys I mentioned are UT leans. They're the type of guys that, when UT has its shit together, wind up at Texas and that's expected ultimately in this class with this staff.
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1 hour ago, UDontKnow said:
Seconded. What happened to the rumblings of a Conditioning coach hire?
Just the typical made up bullshit from Nahlin.
Sarkisian will add reinforcements and a better foundation with new headcount in the S&C and nutrition programs, but not a one of us has a fucking clue how he's really looking at doing that.
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1 minute ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:
Heavy Stanford lean, Ernest Cooper?
You're probably more current than me, so go with that. Also, I hope it is obvious that I've got no thoughts yet on some of these guys, so therefore no bullshit detector where in a normal setting, if something doesn't jibe with what we're hearing elsewhere via this board, I'll usually say "wait, you're telling me the Stanford man is suddenly going to switch gears and have eyes for Texas?" So stick with your gut if this doesn't sound right. I'll ask for better insights via knowing the names, the next time.
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2 minutes ago, Butch Had Not said:
Dude, it's a word sark used. You should email him and tell him your concerns.
I think he was more talking about guys that "opt-out" with games left to play. Someone transferring between seasons should be able to do so with zero impunity. Texas will take those types, same as anybody else.
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16 minutes ago, texifornia said:3 minutes ago, Thiefery said:
No way this kid should be going to tosu.. stay home so momma can see you more
Texas has a good shot, no? This one will be a bit baggy, but folks are thinking UT has a good shot. I guess I haven't followed specifically what was happening with this or any recruitment until very recently, so I missed whatever your reference to tOSU is.
Same friend from yesterday's hail of bullets being fired at me mentioned that Bear Alexander, Evan Stewart, the Miller guy from Tyler, Abor, and the Arlington standout are all probably guys that wind up at Texas and play big roles in fortifying the top 10-ishness of the class.
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Just now, SydneyCarton said:
Oh it's you being obtuse. Let me make it real simple for you, dipshit.
Boosters are rich and can do what they want with their money, even in a pandemic. They can buy new cars, new homes new mistresses, and new football coaches. They're not legally or morally obligated to infuse money into athletic programs to save jobs. Like it or not, this is American where capitalism and freedom of choice rule. You and everyone else can have some kind of moral objection to how the world works, that's fine. But the complete lack of understanding of reality and conflating that with your moral outrage is, well, pretty fucking obtuse. I'm not sure I'm going to be about to help you future out the difference, because you're fucking obtuse.
If you respond to that booger-eater one more time, I hope this entire board revolts in a crowdsourcing effort against you. If you need someone to arbitrarily argue with about bureaucratic nonsense, give me a call and I'll have an analyst read you our employee handbook, word for word. Or the latest Ian Boyd hagiography about Kwiatkowski and his defensive prowess, all 736 pages.
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27 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
yeah. But I mean, apparently that some people forgot. Also, you can't revisit the classics too often.
My new operating theory here is that the 995er guy is Carl, returning in an effort to scuttle the reputations of 995ers and supplant himself as the only true source for player news. Seriously, it's fucking Carl.
Hot Christ, you’re right. LMFAO. So good.
21 minutes ago, Vertigo said:You are 5'6'' but 6'3'' with the ego.
This was a solid, subtle reference and I dig it.
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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
I mean, how could you not cover at least the top 5 greatest hits from the Taylor Hamm era. Bathrooms. Waterslides. Dick pics. Abandoned children. Being 5'4"
According to GRHorn or whatever the fuck, I'd have a hard time picking on someone due to their height, given that I apparently stand an unimposing 5'6", roughly.
Anyways, I thought about Hamm, but he's covered thoroughly already, and you know that.
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Edited by closetojumping
I wouldn't read too much into days vs weeks. Obviously the longer nothing happens, the better things are for anyone other than ATM. Perkins is apparently a fucking lock, which is disappointing. The rest is more mercurial.
One thing everyone should expect is for someone, beyond just guys that we all know are leaning towards ATM, to get locked up and moved off the grid of recruiting from that moment forward. This will be a high impact guy at a position where they know they have a need. Given the very nature of how this works, I doubt we'll know until it happens, or at least until they have an on-campus gathering for recruits in April/May.