Posts posted by closetojumping
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21 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:
Reading the tea leaves, some sources are saying that the staff isn't high on Charbonnet and others are saying Texas is pursuing him. It sounds like both are true, because depth.
Well, you're at least reading my tea leaves, albeit obviously not on staff. I watched the guy plenty in 2019 and viewed him as okay. Like, Kenny Hayter okay or something.
19 minutes ago, Fud said:Processing WRs right now doesn't really create room because they won't reach the 85 even with a full class, so the only reason to do it would be to just have fewer WRs in the room. I'd keep them around for emergency depth, but they'll probably start leaving the program from natural depth chart over the next year
My view is that there is more than one logic string to play out on this. Your take is logically fine, but it's also not absurd to decide to whittle down excessively high numbers anyway. If you don't need'em, lose'em. Guys who aren't going to contribute on the field and aren't glue guys in the locker room add net negative value. Lewis isn't bringing anything positive to the table. Harrison has no one advocating in his corner whatsoever.
11 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:Was Omeire's camp breakout real? He's as Tom Herman a receiver as they come. Curious if Sark has developed an opinion yet and whether we should expect/want him to stick around.
People seemed to buy-in to the Omeire hype that I wouldn't call gullible. I remain from Missouri on the matter. Nothing heading into his arrival spelled promise. I heard amazing shit about Malcolm Epps ahead of seeing him in a game, too. Omeire went from big and slow to big and slower with his injury. I don't know, maybe we get lucky though. We're due.
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1 minute ago, satyanash said:(Bobby Burton) Thursday: What are the coaches doing
Regarding the WR positions, it's becoming very obvious that there is about to be a purge there. I don't know if Harrison ever actually puts on pads at Texas. Maybe Kennedy Lewis will put the bong down for a minute this spring and attempt to compete, but I doubt it.
Herman's handling of WR from the beginning to the end should be pursued as a crime against humanity and prosecuted before high council at The Hague.
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Just now, satyanash said:Outstanding. Can I ask you, sarvanaash, and anyone else who follows Burnt Orange Nation or visits their site, what it is that you hope to gain from it? Have they ever broken anything newsworthy? Is there fruitful discussion on a board there? Do they have writers who are secretly must-reads?
I've been following Texas and CFB on the Internet since the late '90's. I visited their site once, a while after it launched, wasn't impressed. Never went back or bookmarked it. Forgot about them. Then Peter Bean started popping up regarding a burgeoning meltdown or some shit from people who knew him and posted. Dude was strung out on coke or meth and blowing dudes in his work parking lot for money or something, allegedly, by the end of his run. Then I think he got involved with some sort of shooting at the Omni in downtown Austin? Can't remember.
Anyway, the side stories are bizarrely entertaining. What I don't find useful or entertaining are the stupid ass, uninformed, negatively-oriented tweets that you dipshits regurgitate from them here. They're not a fucking news source. It's like some insipid poster here was reading other people's shit and decided to tweet their third-hand takes on developments, and then you guys mistakenly believe we need to have them thrown back in our face here for a reaction. It's fucking obnoxious and lazy. Posting tweets from those clowns, and their complete lack of any connection to the program, is a negative contribution to this site and threads like this.
Anywho, the ND transfer took Lawrence's spot. The rest is spin. Good luck to the guy at UH, but he didn't have a better choice. Seemed like a JAG to me anyway.
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37 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:
If Roach is such a great guy then why don’t Bobby, EJ, and Gerry still work at 247? Seems like more than a coincidence to me.
You think the part time newer guy ran off the two founders and the dipshit chaser that’s never paused to notice anyone else’s feelings? That ... seems stretchy to me.
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47 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:
How much did PK have to do with the 2 transfer pickup at edge rusher?
How bad is OL recruiting looking for 21? Any hope at all outside of Uke? Are we going to have to go the transfer market?
What is the biggest hole the staff sees right now between the roster and current class?
I can honestly say we didn’t discuss any of this. I’ll ask next time if I can remember.
9 minutes ago, cafe society said:Has there been speculation behind the scenes that perhaps a heretofore unknown 3rd party has entered the LJ recruitment, hence the stalling/indecision?
None that I have heard.
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9 minutes ago, texifornia said:
Uke, the OT. Hear anything there?
Nope. Thought about just saying that I didn’t hear shit.
3 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:Any truth to the camar Wheaton is off limits out of respect for saban? Bama losing their OC and rb coach had to of given him at least a slight big of hesitation. Sorry if this was already confirmed on here.
Not sure about how amicable it was, but yeah, that shit got shut down. He isn’t coming to Texas.
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Some thoughts that might be worth what you’re paying for them:
-LJ Johnson - this is a crazy recruitment. Dude presses to graduate early. Then he might not show up for spring at either school. He has a chance to compete for backup at either school, instead this guy is going to do footwork for the spring at home and then redshirt after showing up in June? Neither group of coaches is loving the lack of competitiveness.
-True to form, the LB from UTenn is going to make sure he gets his. Bama is the likely outcome. If Texas gets this guy, well, bags for sure be droppin’.
-The ol’boy out of Seattle ain’t signing on NSD2. He might give Texas an actual look and make it fun, but he’s going to Ohio State.
-I am not the only guy watching CFB religiously that thinks Charvonnet is a depth guy. The guys at Texas that are paid to do this are pursuing him because they know better.
-Abiara is as close as a lock as we could hope for those still unsigned for 2021.
-The PWO kicker is exciting for the staff. Family, HT to @Hank Scorpio, is loaded. Laramie had PWO offers from everyone accordingly. He’s worth a scholarship.
If you have an open and obvious question that I didn’t touch on for what is left in this shit show of a class, LMK. I have been hustling on different calls all day and then cooking and got a couple of calls while whipping something up and might not be remembering everything.
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Take all this fwiw, fellas.
Kid out of Rockwall Heath is a stud at QB. Hoover. Art Briles saw him and said he’d be his first target behind Ewers. Briles knows QBs. And rape, of course. But he knows QBs. Not coincidentally the player’s first P5 offer, I believe, is Arkansas.
Klubinek is a long strider. Great arm, long strider.
Weigman is alright. Some folks that do this shit for a living see it Ewers, Hoover, Klub, Weigman in state in that order. Don’t hate me, Westlake honks.
If no Ewers, might be a two QB class. Ewers flipping looks moderately unlikely but there’s no reason to be dismissive.
Stewart is as media savvy as they come. When he does commit, it’s going to be because he thinks it’s the best moment for exposure. Texas looks good but this guy was Bama recently.
It’s all hands on deck right now to keep guys from getting locked into ATM.
No territories yet. Irrelevant until they can visit schools and talk to folks.
They will sign a TE in this class.
Min 4 OLs.
Them pushing a lot of offers is picking up a lot of buzz.
I’ll give some thoughts on the 2021 thread too.
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20 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:
My handle gives me away as a Charlie apologist, and his tenure at USF ultimately proved me wrong, but I still think, sad as it is to say, that he was a better coach than Herman. Do you really think Herman would have won more than six games with Tyrone Swoopes at QB and that absolute dogshit offensive line we had? As for the idea that he raised the talent level, idk know about that. Bijan is the only player obviously better than any Charlie brought in. The fact is, Charlie really did leave the program in slightly better shape than what Mack left him with. A better human being could have built on it and succeeded, but he was just such an arrogant dick, he just didn't have it in him. I really don't think he will ever succeed anywhere else. His psychological problems are incurable. Narcissists don't get better; they just dig in and double down.
15 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:Mack left behind a Florida State / Jimbo Fisher dumpster fire -- no offensive line or defensive backs or QBs, after Ash. Graveyard of coaches. As bad as Charlie was, Herman would have been worse, if for no other reason than he would have lost the locker room on top of all the other shit we had to deal with.
4 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:Oh, I know full well he will be remembered that way, but as bad as he was, given the contexts they both coached in, I think Herman was even worse. Clone the rosters and have them duke it out; it would be a regard fight but I think Strong would go 6-4 in a ten-game schedule, because Charlie's clones would like him more. We tend to overmagnify Strong's gameday blunders and underestimate Herman's, like his almost never successful key fourth-down attempts at conversions, taking points off the board constantly, and more importantly, he'd be playing the Kyle Porter clone while Strong would be playing the Chris Warren one.
Hahahahahahahaha!!!! It's like fucking clockwork with your idiotic ass. Go write love letters to Chuckles offline, dipshit. Spare the board from your silly, insipid, weak equivocating for a fucking joke of a coach. We don't owe that fucking idiot one iota of loyalty or apology and yet you show up every time his name is mentioned to tear at your clothes and sob in agony for his dumb ass.
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I remember when I first started visiting the football boards in the late '90's. God, it was an amazing time to be witnessing different parts of the sports 'net learning and developing, and posters doing the same. Nebraska was far and away the most daunting program alongside FSU. It seemed like no one else was close, even if there were obviously strong programs short of them, such as UF, Michigan, OSU, and Tennessee that were worthy of respect. USC sucked. Texas sucked. Bama sucked. LSU sucked. Clemson? Ha. Right.
Now? No one has collapsed like Nebraska. FSU has shit all over itself over the past 4+ years, but they also won a title before that. Texas and USC have certainly gone up to elite and then back down to mediocre. Obviously Bama, Clemson, OSU, and LSU have ascended. Michigan and Tennessee really suck now too, but no one sucks like Nebraska.
Anyway, it's gratifying to watch. I fucking hate those shit heads. Osborne pulled a stunt going to the Big 10 and blaming Texas. This is after he sold his soul to win titles with pieces of human shit. And Nebraska fans, of course, stayed "classy" cheering for shitbags and then talking shit about us on their way out the door. Not so much any more. Turns out, winning covers up a lot of sins.
I had a Nebraska fan that I deal with attempt to claim the "evil Texas" premise with me recently. It was nice. Instead of arguing with him about the lack of facts in his argument (unequal revenue sharing in which Nebraska abstained from benefitting, Texas ending the walk-on program for UNL, other absurd shit), I just went with it. "Yep, you guys were immoral cheaters and Texas showed up and took your heart and soul from you, and you deserved it. You bitches left because you couldn't handle being owned in the conference, and now you've gone somewhere in which you are truly irrelevant. No one cares and no one notices you. If we added you to our future non-con, we'd have to schedule a premier program in the same seasons in order to avoid being accused of having a cupcake schedule. " He changed the subject.
They'll never be back. They're nothing but smoking ruin and rubble, thousands of miles away from talent, interest, and rivalry. It's fitting.
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25 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:
I'm in no way defending how shitty that team was but out of curiosity I looked up that 2008 Washington schedule and they had an brutally tough slate. Their ooc games were BYU, OU, and Notre Dame (Charlie Weis version, but still). Played three teams that finished top ten (OU, USC, Oregon). Played 6 teams that finished in the top 25.
Did almost get a win in the Apple Cup against a terrible Washington State team that only won a single other game but lost what had to be an absolute classic in double overtime 16-13.
Sorry for the digression but not like we're super focused here at the moment. I'm drinking the Sark Kool-Aid completely but I appreciate golfclap's attempt to keep us relatively grounded. Every concern he's brought up is reasonable. Anyway, it's Tuesday, hopefully we get some good news soon.
It's pathetic, but I am pretty sure I remember watching that Apple Cup. It was like watching a train wreck and I was in awe. If it wasn't that game, I don't know what it could have been.
Washington has always been an interesting school to me. It's never been clear why they're not a regular power, but maybe that's simply because I love the weather up there. I really do wish Texas would schedule a home and home with them. They're ideal for it.
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I find it hilarious that Fields is rated as highly as he is. I expect him to bust completely. I mean, completely. The NFL can be pretty tough when, you know, you're not able to constantly throw to wide open receivers against far less talented defenses.
Also, I'd like to see New England whiff on getting a QB. I'm interested in further witnessing just how much of a real genius Bill Belichick is without Brady.
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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:Debate these nuts on your chin.
4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:Did you wake up today and say to yourself: "I think I'm going to pull the bookshelf on top of myself in public. It just feels right."?
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3 minutes ago, Fud said:
USC's LB coach is named Vic So'oto. There's no way they don't win this one
While I agree that it seems almost certain that he'll wind up at USC, it's absurd to me that a guy leaving a dumpster fire at a place like UTenn will be willing to run into the burning house that is USC.
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1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:I think I see why he follows you around negging you in every post- even innocuous shit. Clearly, this is something to be massively concerned with. I think one of my favorite things on this site is discovering for the first time existence of a feud that’s been going on for however long. Love it.
I negged him once last week for a bad take on something, so he' freaked out, apparently, and he's been following me around on the board negging legitimate recruiting and football discussions, including me going after the okie for his weak logic as well.
Then the dipshit shows up with the bad track takes here, so I negged him a couple of times. He then, this morning, sends me a PM saying "You got a problem?" Uhhh, yeah, I do now. I didn't notice the handle before, but yeah, now you've got my attention. It's always strange to me when a new poster decides I'm the poster with whom they're going to fuck with and talk shit.
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16 minutes ago, Octavian said:The average explosive passing play is about 35 yards. That's about 32 meters. Most 200M sprinters do not get anywhere near their top speed in 32 meters (average 100M sprinter does in 35M and 200M sprinters in 55M). Yes, a good 200M sprinter has amazing top speed, but it rarely translates to speed that is functional on the football field. The speed at which an athlete "gets off the blocks" and their initial 10M burst is the most important for a WR/RB because it is what determines whether they can get initial separation/make people miss. I understand the snarkiness and I understand that having a good 200M time means he's very fast. However, most top speeds for distances above 100M don't translate to football because you are rarely going in a straight line and you are rarely running for over 30M.
If you want to argue that Becton can make him more explosive and that his early acceleration can be improved by improvement to technique, form, and conditioning, I'm all for it. The 200M time itself is not the hill to die on.
Listen, fucknut, you showed up with the argument that Evan Stewart did not possess Olympic speed. Others countered with two points - 1) going off of times from a sophomore track season that ended abruptly before it really got going isn't actually indicative of the potential capability of Stewart from a track speed perspective now and 2) he's actually focused on an event that doesn't have football implications but may, in fact, have Olympic speed in that event. You ignored both rebuttals in an effort to trudge forward with irrelevant stupidity.
Everything you've offered since your original shitty take has evidenced an immature inability to simply offer a mea culpa that you were wrong with your original snark and move on.
Congrats though. You've managed to spike the thread away from the impending glory of Stewart committing to Texas because he's a bad ass football player and redirected things into a discussion about Olympic speed and boring track shit.
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1 minute ago, quigley said:
That's a lot of revision there. Please refer to Murray thread on this board to learn what the UT fanbase thought of Murray after his performance at A&M. There were plenty of people questioning whether Hurts could succeed at OU in the Sooner fanbase. There were still people who questioned if he could throw the ball even after he was a Heisman finalist and NFL draft pick. And there was a bias against transfer QBs (with merit based on their success) prior to the OU experience of Mayfield, Murray, and Hurts.
So yeah, market inefficiency. I know what it means too.
There's no revision. You simply don't follow logic very well. People doubting a player or mocking a player doesn't imply a market inefficiency whatsoever. Numerous schools pursued both players when they transferred. Numerous schools wanted each player because numerous schools thought each player could help their team. OU did not sign either guy under the cover of darkness, quietly knowing better while the rest of college football ignorantly rambled on in a different direction.
I'm willing to watch you tumble all the way down this path if you like. It's pretty fucking clear you are punchdrunk and can't tell up from down if you're going to insist on the false premise that signing and playing a former top 5 national recruit that everyone wanted both when he signed and when he transferred, and signing and playing a former starting QB for a national title-winning team that numerous schools pursued aggressively when he announced his transfer, are "exploiting market inefficiencies." It's getting fucking hilarious.
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11 minutes ago, quigley said:
Outside of the fiasco with the QB who went to WV, his comments have been coach-speak or supporting player freedom to my knowledge.
"He has supported player freedom everytime it has served to his benefit. He acted like a hypocritical piece of shit that time in which it didn't favor him, but that was just that one time." Right.
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34 minutes ago, quigley said:
You may want to re-read what I said. I was/am monitoring Tennessee, Michigan, and USC since the first signing day. I'm still perplexed by some of these schools stability. That may change after players get back on campus and into offseason work. We'll see another spike during and after Spring ball.
In the transfer thread, I noted that OU has ~ 50% attrition of high school players historically and close to that recently. Check it out. I present data rather than hot takes and vinegar.
Based on this high attrition rate, one could make a case for taking a core group of high level high school talent and then pivoting to the transfer market to plug in holes. Riley has experience exploiting the market inefficiency in transfer QBs already.
You referenced "OU sites say the OU coaches knew something would go down at TN so they continued to recruit him ", which I mocked your fanbase for given that if they really needed their $9.95ers to tell them that shit may go down at Tennessee, they might be even dumber than I thought. Like Big Kat dumb. I don't need to re-read a thing. It would be helpful if you'd focus better on what others are saying, rather than talking baseless shit. Maybe reading comprehension isn't your thing, but it's an odd thing to taunt at someone else if that is the case.
Also, if you're going to use a term like "market inefficiency" with a readership that understands the concept, you should damn well use it correctly. There was no "market inefficiency" exploited by signing and leveraging Kyler Murray or Jalen Hurts. They were pursued by hordes of schools. OU did a good job of bringing them in and putting them to good use, but OU wasn't uncovering hidden treasure or finding daylight where everyone else was in the dark. Could Riley be "exploiting a market inefficiency" by signing more transfers than most other schools because he's got a POV on bust rates for HS recruits? Sure, that's a legitimate use of "exploiting a market inefficiency" and one we've all been discussing, so you attempting to highlight that point is redundant to the conversation.
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16 minutes ago, quigley said:
That's my understanding. He was following his coach from Auburn to TN, but coach got fired in the purge so now he remains in limbo. The OU sites say the OU coaches knew something would go down at TN so they continued to recruit him even after he publicly declared for TN.
To my knowledge, Wheaton and Uke only. And of course it would be a surprise if they got either.
You guys needed $9.95ers to tell you something was going to happen at Tennessee? I guess your base and Big Kat were the only dumbasses clueless about that one, so it sounds like a good match.
Abandoning high school recruiting for one-third to one-quarter of every class seems like a bold strategy. Can’t argue with Riley’s results so far though. Bill Snyder probably admires him.
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8 hours ago, stork642 said:
I’ll know the new S&C coach is really good as soon as I hear that Whittington is going to yoga 3-5 times a week. I’ve never done yoga in my life but that dude needs way more flexibility.
4 hours ago, Sejjr said:This. The new S&C coach should make his top priority getting Whittington off his brother’s bodybuilder routine.
Maybe if he’ll just lay off the “supplements” for a while, everything can have a chance to de-glassify. Not sure what that will do to his speed though.
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How in the fuck is the statement "Texas is booming" a mystery to that dipshit Suchomel or people on this board? It's quite clearly exactly as you're calling it. For fuck's sake.