-
Posts
390 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Store
Downloads
Recruiting - 2020
2019-2020 Football Season
Football
Entertainment
Sports
News and Business
Cloak Room
Transfer Portal
Recruiting
Events
Posts posted by mantis toboggan
-
-
That second one tastes good
- 1
- 1
-
I noticed in the Arkansas game, that everyone’s favorite safety Sloneal, had key roles in helping pig score on both touchdowns. Was hoping, because admittedly I an unable, someone can post the gifs or otherwise add to his already illustrious highlight reel.
-
4 hours ago, texasstrong12 said:
Jimbo's wins the last 3 regular seasons-
Texas State 3-9
Lamar 4-8
Arkansas 2-10
Ole Miss 4-8
Miss State 6-7
UTSA 4-8
South Carolina 4-8
Vanderbilt 0-9
Florida 8-4
Miss State 4-7
Arkansas 3-7
South Carolina 3-7
LSU 5-5
Auburn 6-5
Tennessee 3-7
Kent State 1-3
Colorado 1-3
New Mexico 2-2
This is a Kyle Umlang tweet. Wow.
- 1
- 1
-
I too live in a world where the Manning family wants their offspring to go to Texas so badly they will drop bags to near strangers to make it happen
- 3
- 1
-
19 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:
I find this pretty funny considering you're like one rung down from satya on this board.
Sorry @UncleBuck. I will try harder to accommodate your fragile sensibilities moving forward.
-
4 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:
I'm not sure you do follow recruiting. This staff has not been impressive on the trail outside of DL, but even then we have a qualification risk and a guy from LA and and a guy from MS who have the in-state schools that will continue to recruit them for the next few years. I'd say odds at least one DL who is currently committed doesn't end up enrolling here.
It would be decent but not great. The foot issue thing for Thompson is a concern, Coleman is very overrated by the recruiting services, and Hudson would be on his third commitment if he ends up with us which is always a red flag.
I bet you are fun at parties.
- 3
-
5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:
We aren’t playing it because we don’t have the systems setup to do it effectively and not get caught. And if we are we’re using a very antiquated systems that is no longer effective.
we fucked up NIL huge so that point is currently moot. Ctj doesn’t think bag men will be as effective going forward but I believe it’s going to take strong movement on both fronts to remain competitive
Thanks for the response. I interpret it (for the most part) that it takes time to implement what needs to be done and hopefully the above things get fixed for the next cycle and beyond.
I agree with you on the bag game not going away with NIL. NIL will pay kids once on campus. Lots of top tier kids may not be patient enough to wait and will want the bag dropped with each camp visit, unofficial visit, official visit, commit and signature.
I guess if our NIL game is so good it cause kids to wait then great, but as you said we have already fucked it up I am not holding my breath.
-
1 hour ago, Barbacoa said:
It's indicative that we arent playing the game like Georgia is. Mannings want the programs to bag it up to put pieces around Arch.
Assuming you are in the know, do you know why we are not playing the game like Georgia (and I assume aggy)?
With NIL we should now or soon be in the top payers tier. Or is it a distinction between NIL paying once on campus vs the bag game prior to campus (ie cash in hand to commit/sign). Do you know if Texas will only pay via NIL route and that is what is hurting our current efforts?
I recall a CTJ post a while back that listed out tiers of playing the game and if I recall correctly those 2 schools were in the top group of anything goes. We were in the 2nd tier with bama. Ou in 3rd tier etc.
also I have to believe we are playing some games in this cycle with recent commits from deep in SEC country of Louisiana and Alabama and Mississippi (?). What’s most disappointing is the loss of targeted top Texas recruits that are still turning us down even with incentives of NIL or otherwise. I keep hoping it is only because it takes a cycle to get a good bag game to take effect.
I’ll hang up and listen.
-
I thought I had been told on here that the bag game would not apply to Manning, given the family dynamics.
l guess it just an additional factor now with NIL.
And to clarify are you making a distinction between bag game and NIL or grouping as one in the same?
-
Ha. Probably not. Just think aggy has enough talent to over come the qb online concerns. Maybe in typical aggy fashion they find a way to fuck it up. Go auburn, LSU, one of the Mississippi schools. Other than those (already including a bama loss) don’t see a L.
-
4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:
They also had a senior QB and a veteran OL.
True. I hope they lose every game. Problem is even with the qb and ol concerns the defense and running game with that schedule calls for a floor of 8 or 9 wins.
-
To be devil’s advocate aggy looked like shit in the opener last year and finished just outside the playoffs. I know, I know their schedule was shit last year……. Just like this year.
-
- Popular Post
-
2 hours ago, closetohumping said:
What did he say? I don’t remember him being right about very much.
Said KU to BIG by this Friday. KU fan on post 1122 on this thread asked about his credibility. Apparently he was the first to know/start the excitement for KU fans.
-
34 minutes ago, Saint Austin said:
That gives them 15. Who's #16? Iowa State? Someone from the ACC or Pac? Mizzou??
Maybe cujo from OB is legit on this one. Good call if true.
-
I look forward to IT telling us it’s Texas for Bryce
- 1
-
2 hours ago, Houtexjhawk said:
Can someone help me here? Some guy named Cujo who claims to be a Texas Insider has posted on the Orangeblood paid forum that KU is getting an invitation to the Big 10. It has whipped some of the Phog.net posters into a frenzy. I continue to state that while I would love for KU to get a Big 10 invite, I don’t see how they add enough value to get an invitation. I get trashed and called. K-State fan when I post this !
Anyone know if Cujo has credibility. Is this an elaborate ploy to get desperate KU fans to pay for an Orangebloods subscription?
I personally don’t find him credible, but he seems to have a following. Logic would say the chances of this guy knowing when no other leaks, corroborated reports or rumors are out there make it dubious.
if helpful this was his last post:
Spoileractually your points are very valid. Looks like big 10 is being desperate. The likes to expand to the west coast have fallen through and are looking for some immediate help is what I was told. Geographically speaking Kansas may be the best option available right now.
by the way..my info is from Kansas side of things..they are fully expecting this to move fast as well- 1
-
OB’s latest comments re NIL and recruiting:
No. 3 - Stop with the NIL is crushing recruiting stuff...
I can tell who does and does not read this column on a regular basis almost entirely by some of the reactions this weekend to the news that Texas is...wait for it...a bit sluggish in recruiting with elite prospects at the moment.
SHOCKING!!!!!!
Or not.
One of the trendy talking points for those that will do anything to create talking points is to point the finger at the new boogieman of Texas football recruiting...NIL.
Understand this - Texas' lack of momentum in the 2022 recruiting class didn't start on July 1. Almost eight months have passed since Texas landed Maalik Murphy in recruiting and the program hasn't landed a player in the Rivals Top 150 since.
The reality is that it feels better to say that Kelvin Banks picked Oregon because of NIL as opposed to admitting that he might not believe in the vision and messaging of the program from the coaching staff. Or that he doesn't want to be alone in coming to Austin.
It's just the newest form of excuse-making... the kind that Aggies have embarked on for much of the last 20-25 years before Jimbo Fisher was able to change the narrative.
No. 4 - Let's go over the non-NIL problems...
Instead of misplacing responsibility, let's take a look at the real issues facing the program as things currently stand in the 2022 class.
1. As has been mentioned in this column countless times, elite of the elite prospects aren't giving this coaching staff the kind of first-year benefit of the doubt that Charlie Strong and Tom Herman both received.
2. This staff can do better and finish better. Both the De'Anthony Gatson and Kelvin Banks recruitments featured miscalculations or misreadings. There's no reason to belabor the points again and again and again. The staff can be better.
3. In the case of a few recruits around the state, there's a sense that there are briefcases full of cash in play. Of course, you know what the SEC calls recruitments that involve briefcases full of cash? They call it Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday...
I don't know what to tell you about the third point, but the first two can be controlled and addressed with quality play on the field this season and the staff doing a better job.- 2
-
3 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:
Compared to most of our other recruiting foes, they’re not even in the same ballpark. More than us, sure. But not by a whole lot.Don’t disagree. See subsequent posts.
-
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:
In relative terms, no they’re not. But you having this mindset shows how stupid our fanbase is with regards to everything going on.
Not sure what you think my mindset is as I didn’t give it. Simply stated that it is strange to have Ou grouped in the non bag group on this board given the long history of cheating issues. I personally agree with you “in relative terms” from what I can tell.
otherwise you are welcome to enlighten this board with your thoughts. either way go get fucked.
-
To continue on the recruiting world is upside down path, we now have a broad swath of folks saying OU doesn’t cheat on a UT message board.
- 1
- 1
- 1
-
32 minutes ago, Pancho said:
Per the FWST, sounds like Baylor, Tech, and TCU are shopping themselves as a “package deal” to other conferences.
If true and you’re a Tech fan, I would be livid.
At a minimum adding Baylor to the package. I guess the Basketball NC is a feather, but my god they seem toxic with their history and devout religious connections which typically run contrary to the politics of large state institutions of public education.
Maybe I’m just biased, but I would consider them an anchor.
unfortunately for tech (and really the rest/majority of the remaining 8 it’s going to be difficult to land in a power conference. Most likely they realize this and then add small markets to the 12 and take the buyout money.
-
Puzzled by the Patton angst. The flags around this guy tell me he won’t be heard about again regardless of him being in Austin, Waco or Ann Arbor.
what is way more worthy of discussion is my post above that basically outlines the total destruction of UT football in the coming months and years ahead.
Well that or losing Patton.
-
All this talk about aggy cheating is fine and dandy.
The real issue as I understand it that payment to players is essentially legal now with NIL. Fine. bring it out in the open. Establish once on campus x type of player should see y amount of money.
Presumably (I hope) we match or exceed what aggy bama or any other SEC team pays. I will say that out of the gate I am concerned that we may not take full advantage the new environment and continue to try to win with one hand tied behind our back. Seems like we are pretty much fucked with the 22 class. Maybe we get our ass in gear for 23.
One thing seems clear though that payments will continue to kids not yet on campus, ie high-school recruits. Payments for visits. Payments for signatures. I have little doubt this is where Texas will continue to get beat up on the recruiting field.
Will the 5 star or other top talented kids wait to get the money once they step on campus (at Texas) or will we continue to lose kids that can get the money early and then again when they step on campus ( at a school other than Texas?- 2
Scattered CFB Thoughts In Week 5 of 2021
in Football
Posted
-Oregon visits Palo Alto this weekend. Stanford blows, but Mario Cristobal is west coast Tom Herman. He'll fuck up a game this year somewhere, so I wouldn't be shocked if it's this one.
Good call