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Had Enough

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  1. 5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    To be fair Derka admits he has mental disability/issues. 

    I know.  He seems to be an open book.  But it’s a bit surprising that level of engagement he drums up.  He’s passionate about it.  We all are to some degree.  And many of us can be over the top.  As for me, as of age, I become less mature regarding my sports opinions and dig in a little deeper.
     

    It was merely a joke directed at thatguy so Derks don’t think I’m coming at you.

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  2. 11 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

     

     That said I have a lot of respect for the posters here. 

     

    @Had Enough it was a serious question because I honestly don't know how they stat that.

    As to the first point, why?  And some posters believe another poster has issues.

     

    As to the second one, I have some insight but working from educated guesses as to this particular point.  There is subjectivity but working from what is likely a defined set of circumstances.  It’s a bit fandom view, but the teams use the info so there’s likely team input even if indirectly.

    So on that play, obviously you’d need a specific visual, but generally speaking that’s on the Oline.  If it’s 5 seconds after the snap and the QB runs into his lap in the opposite B gap, then the Oline won’t likely get tagged for that.

  3. 1 minute ago, mwaadeeb said:

    Shitty teams can have good players on the roster, sometimes great players. It's a team sport. You're completely missing the point. QE was the quarterback when Texas went from losing a lot of games to winning a lot of games, hence as QB he "led" the team over that transition. Do you see the logic?

    I got you.  I agree with you.
     

    My point still stands.  The thrashing of players goes a bit far.  I’m not even saying you even though I took a small comment out of context perhaps.  Maybe slightly intentionally.  That overall tone of negativity is present here on both sides.  
     

    It’s always team.

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  4. Steam,

    I believe those that track self sacks do attempt to define it.  It is not perfect, but it is a data point.  They’re doing their best to apply it consistently.  It’s not even called a self sack I don’t believe.

    If the Olinemen is beat or missed an assignment, it’s not put on the QB.  There is an analysis of every player on every play with a reasonable determination about what the offense and defense are attempting to do.

  5. 2 hours ago, Park Gothic said:

    "You're not in traffic, you are traffic."

    Also, here's another Quinn gif. 

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    Not the classic moon-shot to Worthy that everyone remembers, but the somewhat less appreciated "nail in the coffin" throw to AD in the 4th. 

    Let’s try to take Ewers out of the equation here.  It could and does happen to all QBs.

    1). If that WR runs a 4.5 as opposed to a 4.3, does he catch it?

    2)  If you’re an NFL GM, and you only have one play to watch, how would you rate this Qb play with respect to timing, accuracy, anticipation?

     

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  6. 5 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

    What are you even talking about?

    You weren’t exactly demonstrative in your statement, but you did refer to shitty teams with the implication that we had shitty players.
     

    Every year we have multiple folks ripping players.  That’s been done here throughout the thread too.

    There is a disconnect somewhere.  Since Colt, we’ve had 3 QBs, Ewers will be the 4th, spend time in the NFL.  I believe Ash medically retired.  Swoopes made it in the NFL at a different position.  Maybe we didn’t win as much as we’d like.  But maybe our shitty QBs weren’t exactly the problem.

    People suck.  More so on social media platforms.  Ever buddy has an opinion.  And we’re all right in our own minds.  I’m just trying to determine if we shit talk some but not others.  Is that ok?

  7. 56 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

    JFC he was the fucking quarterback. We went from shitty to (briefly) number one with him under center. What do you expect people to say?

    So in your defense of Ewers, you’re willing to shit on many other players and teams?  This is part of why I push back.  There is no hesitation to downplay others to lift up Ewers.  It is a message boards right to do so to crucify or so it’s posters feel.

    Repeat it to yourself, a QB is the most important position but is easily the most dependent on every other mofo out there.

    There’s only one QB that’s had the same coach and same system for 3 years running since Colt.  Probably didn’t help those other shitty QBs.

    Nowhere in the annals of college football history is Craig Krenzel considered a great QB.  Yet he finished #1.  Probably same for Greg McElroy.

    18 minutes ago, B00M said:

    But we probably aren’t able to build those recruiting classes and teams if Colt was the QB recruit. It would have had to be the perfect storm where he’s the 2nd QB in the class (like he was) and the 5 star QB in the class attracts all the other top recruits and then gets hurt or otherwise loses the job to 3-star Colt. Might not land Arch in this silly hypothetical either, so if Colt gets hurt in a playoff or championship, the backup isn’t particularly good or ready… wait...

     

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    Boomer, you’re a reasonable bastard.  There’s some element of truth here, but particularly in 2023, there were few here that contributed after Ewers arrival.  It was reported that Taaffee and Arch were tight during his recruiting process.  Arch is here more because Sark.

    And let’s not forget money helps.  That ain’t Ewers.  Anthony Hill and Collins Simmons ain’t showing up because Ewers is QB.  All them DTs we’ve seen were here prior to Ewers.

    Sark ain’t recruiting a Colt.  But if Colt were here upon arrival and won it all, people are lining up to come here.

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  8. 20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

    sark didnt decide to not help his limited QB. OL had a few injuries themselves, but why acknowledge that? 

    https://www.secsports.com/sport/football/stats

    Rank Team G ATT YDS AVG TD YDS/G
    1 Alabama 8 294 1289 4.4 25 161.1
    2 Auburn 8 278 1217 4.4 6 152.1
    3 Texas 9 319 1378 4.3 11 153.1
    4 Texas A&M 8 343 1467 4.3 18 183.4
    5 Tennessee 8 361 1534 4.2 14 191.8
    6 Florida 8 285 1202 4.2 15 150.3
    7 Arkansas 8 291 1174 4.0 14 146.8
    8 South Carolina 8 321 1288 4.0 12 161.0
    9 Mississippi St. 8 300 1121 3.7 10 140.1
    10 Ole Miss 8 307 1141 3.7 11 142.6
    11 Missouri 8 327 1208 3.7 11 151.0
    12 Georgia 9 286 1029 3.6 17 114.3
    13 Vanderbilt 8 279 993 3.6 7 124.1
    14 LSU 8 245 864 3.5 9 108.0
    15 Kentucky 8 299 969 3.2 4 121.1
    16 Oklahoma 8 319 1001 3.1 6 125.1

    That is in conference ranking on average yards per. Texas was top 3 in the SEC, that includes QB rushing stats. So lets not shit on the OL too much. I get it they did not run the ball well vs teams with 11 NFL players on defense, but overall they were pretty good. 

    I will add that Texas was no. 1 in yards per carry prior to that 9th data point with only UGA having a 9th data point too.

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  9. 32 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

    I just think it was poorly played. The Deep safety completely blew his assignment and got caught eyeing Moore (?) on his out (Xavier Alford). The other guy just bit hard on Golden's jab step. They are blitzing, which was picked up, but there is no reason for Alford not to be the deepest man in that situation. Perhaps the DBs were over-aggressive thinking the pressure would get home and the pass would have to come out quick. They did drop 6. I put this more on execution, than play call. I would guess you hated PK's call on the screen more. To be sadistic I could say Orlando's 4th down call vs LSU. 

    The Orlando play call was awful.   The PK screen doesn’t hit a chord for me really.

    This one left the backend little room for error once the pass rush was stoned.  I thought it was said it was a cover 4, which could explain several of the reactions.  I’ll always prefer having my second level defenders push any throw towards the backend defenders.  I’m giving Golden some extra attention. I’m making my QB think.  And I’m making him make a throw between at least two guys.  None of that happened.

  10. 1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

    Still amazes me how Golden was able to get behind the defense. ASU secondary coach has probably watched that 100 times wondering how #2 took a false step to the out route and #7 bites on Golden's fake. Golden wide open to the point he turns around and waits on the ball and he is still 5 yards behind them. 

    I’m amazed they had two guys doing absolutely nothing but hanging out in no man’s land at about 3 and 7 yards deep.  Not a big leave your DBs on an island on long yardage situations fan.  It’s recent but this is as bad a play call as I can remember.

  11. Just now, Fondren & Main said:

    0/2 of is pretty bad.  1/2 isn't great.  Who is shitting on Bert btw?  I'm not calling anyone names.  Just stating the facts that he missed twice inside 4 minutes left.

    There’s been very little said positive about Bert since that day.  And you highlighted 0-2 when he was 1-3 with 4-4 on extra points.  There has no doubt been finger pointing at Bert.

    The very first miss was 48 yards, roughly a 50/50 proposition.  He makes that ASU have 1:30 for a game tyer.  Who knows how it goes from there.  The offense’s objective is to score and leave no time.

    Yes, he needs to make one of those.

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  12. 18 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

    Couldn't agree more. They flash their potential from time to time, but we need them to be more consistent (easier said than done). We have talent but very few elite guys who strike fear in our opponents. I think this team has come this far because of coaching, not necessarily because of sheet talent. 

    Yeah, we don’t have 1st round talent necessarily, but we’ve got some potential, deeper than most believe.  But I probably view it differently too.

    Flores has about as easy power as anyone.  Not Ivan Melendez brute strength bat on the ball and it’ll carry power.  More consistency needed.  Now Max has more brute power.  It’s a shame he got hurt because I think he’s a fearful type talent.

    Obviously, the coaches are putting players in chances to succeed.  I won’t down play their efforts in that.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

    Well the guys at D1Baseball keep telling us we are not as talented as the other top teams in the SEC.

    I look up the Perfect Game rankings and some draft rankings when these guys are prospects.  I know Tennessee is bringing them in, Arkansas too.  UF.  But beyond that, we’re right there or better than others.  And UF likes to suck til playoff time.

    At some point production matters. We have a lot of maturity too.  Bell for Kentucky looked great but otherwise not much.  Irish for Auburn is something but pretty underwhelming otherwise.

    When watching, I don’t feel we’re outmatched or overwhelmingly fortunate.  Arkansas was primed and ready otherwise it’s good pitchers picking us off.  That’s been limited too.

    Hell, I’d say Gasparino, Flores, Farmer have more to give us.  I don’t see any reason Rodriguez, Galvan, Schuessler, Mendoza can’t keep on keeping on.

    DV is the one I see most difficult to sustain.  Even a slight drop off and he’s damn good.

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  14. 2 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

    We are definitely overachieving given the amount of talent in the roster. 

    What are you basing the talent evaluation on?  

    But “talent” is a foggy notion as I tend to view others thinking it’s high 99s fastballs or Ivan Melendez shots.
     

    As an athlete, I’d probably be pissed that you’re undervaluing my abilities.  The truth is there are certainly several dudes that have the ability to perform better.  At least consistently better.
     

    I suspect that we’ll get more higher end guys, but I don’t think the back end of the roster will get much deeper.  Unless NIL can buy patience.  I’m guessing there’ll be a Jayden Duplantier more often than not.  Fast, utility guy that works at it and does not expect to start every game.  There’s absolute value in guys like that.  Above average talent is not going to sit for multiple years unless the dollars are enough.

    As far as the “eye” test, we aren’t overachieving because our opponents don’t jump off the page as being elite.  Several of the big arms we’ve seen can’t find the zone.  Some of the best arms have beaten us, but they can’t pitch all 3 games.  Opposing hitters haven’t exactly torn the cover off the ball.  If you haven’t looked at other teams rosters, how many guys contribute and the production at the bottom end, then you might be surprised to know only about 22-24 guys play and quite a few of those have poor numbers.

     Then you’ve got Max Grubbs.  Maybe his talent isn’t elite.  Maybe his tenacity is.  I’ll take him any day.

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