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  1. 9 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

    I don’t care if he is kind or not. That is not the point. I do not care what any of the access merchants put out there in this sport or any other sport. That is as clear as I can say it. 

    Given what I understand your high school upbringing to be, I find “access merchants” quite amusing.

  2. 7 minutes ago, Blotto said:

    thats like choosing between adding a cat turd or a dog turd to your morning coffee. Fuck em both. The draft "industry" that the NFL has managed to build into their marketing is really something, but they run circles around the other leagues in terms of marketing. but the downside to that is having these fucking dorks that probably never scored a touchdown in their lives pretend like they are NFL talent gurus. They are somehow worse than the entirety of  the $9.95 jock sniffers at the collegiate levels. 

    Russell Crowe Gladiator GIF

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  3. 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Much like SEC football, I am of the opinion that SEC baseball's reputation is a bit overinflated, and the conference benefits from those lingering high rankings as the season goes along.

    Not near as many mid to upper 90s fastball guys as were anticipated.  And I think LSUs guys like that were transfers.  Ruger/Sanders - transfers.  Not near as much power either.

  4. 16 hours ago, PGFrog said:

    East Bernard ran the Slot T in 2012-13 when the won a state title.  

    I have seen it most in smaller schools and it can be really effective.  Think Fulshear ran it this year and they beat they shit out of a number of schools before they got beat by Atascosita.

    They ran for some crazy number, maybe over 450 ypg and then threw for just over a 100 a game.  

    That coach has since gone onto Klein and it will be interesting to see if he runs it there. 

     

    If you have the right horses relative to your competition, anything can work.  And, if you can confuse the opponents D because they see it so infrequently, that can make a difference too.  Liberty Hill is an example of this.

    I’m old enough to have been in a wing T offense then shortly after seen my high school transition to more open offenses.  Then seeing the evolution since that time.  I have a biased, personal preference of which offense I’d choose.  And a key support of that is the number of QBs from Texas that have succeeded at higher levels.  Thirty years ago Cam award is likely never heard from beyond high school.  Obviously, the reasons run deeper than simply the offense, but that’s one reason.

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  5. 25 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

    VY is with a handful of other QBs whose career might have been significantly different if they came along 10 years later. 

    The right place at the right time is quite significant.  For much of this Longhorn roster that is the case.  I’m not sure there’s ever been a time when competition has been higher or profiles have been elevated more at Texas than now.

    And there are far more coaches that are able to bring you down than lift you to your maximum potential.

  6. 2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    Wing T and Slot T is beautiful offense, eat shit.

    Was it most prevalent in the 80s/90s in Texas?

    The time period in which few Texas high school QBs went on to be good college QBs and even fewer to the NFL.  Some have said QB is the most important position.  So, let’s run an offense that limits the QB.

    Just cause the Marlin Bulldogs ran roughshod over you with it does not mean it was a beautiful offense.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Yeah, he averaged something like 12 throws per game in that Wing T offense.  He got almost no attention; hence, Incarnate Word.

    What a terrible offense.  His story kinda tells you that.  

  8. 12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

    I am of the belief that UT playing smaller in-state schools is good for the program and the state as a whole. 

    I agree. 
     

    The RPI needs retooling.  Go on the road to beat Mizzou, and you get a quad 3 win.  Nevermind they have been run ruled in 4 straight.  3 at home.  One by a barely above .500 team.  Half their SEC games have only lasted 7 innings.  They have 3 quad 1-3 wins - UConn, Illinois and SIEU.

    Playing the #101 team at home is not equivalent to beating the last place SWAC team.  Yet it is.  At some point, games should be thrown out.  That way there’s fewer reasons to cancel.

    If we’re weighing Tuesday/Wednesday games in the same manner you weigh weekends/conference games, that’s dumb.  Using a metric for post season seeding that gives such an impact to pitchers you likely won’t see in the post season is not indicative of how the post season will play out.

    And all that bs leads to games being canceled.

  9. 24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    I'm not sure where the struggle is.  Ewers' talent relative to his teammates doesn't necessarily say anything about his talent relative to the entire D1 talent pool.  If he's actually one of the 2-3 "worst" players on the UT offense (which I would probably dispute) then that means nothing if his surrounding talent is elite, which in general it is.

    I am not sure I’ve ever said much about his talent being limited.  Generally, I’m never going to limit what a player can do.  He’s no different.  When I say he has some uniqueness to him, that is not meant in a negative sense.

    But when one discusses actual production, that surrounding talent matters.  My life experiences tell me that slow pass catchers make your margin for error much smaller.  That any QB reads are more difficult because the defense remains condensed longer while at the same time creating less separation.  If you add in a mediocre pass protecting unit, then these timeframes are condensed even more.  And all this before you consider whether these pass catchers have above average to elite abilities to make defenders miss.  That has not been a Texas issue of late.  I’d say less so than any other team.  

    Personally, I wouldn’t compare a G to a QB. Overall, in my opinion, our offense has underachieved relative to their talent the past 3 years.  Allocate that however you like.  It’s not one player or one factor.  

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  10. 36 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    This just furthers my point.  Claiming Ewers is just a guy because he was surrounded by elite talent is fucking stupid, but here we are.

    I’m not following you.  Are you disputing my comments or just saying I’m a dumbass because I interjected the surrounding talent?

  11. 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Just for fun, let's dig in on this.

    1.  NFL teams need more than a starter at QB.  Most carry 3.

    2.  Ewers was far better than a "mediocre" college QB.

    3.  Being one of the 2-3 worst players on one of the best offenses in college football, IF TRUE, is not necessarily as damning as you think it is.

    Now that much of the gang is back I had to jump into the fray.

    1.  You are correct on the first part.  You may be correct on the second.

    2. This is a difficult one.  Objectively, based on the PFF grading system, he was at best mediocre in 2 of 3 seasons and one better than mediocre but not likely elite.

    3.  OFEI says we were never a top 10 offense.  Yet the past 2 drafts say we had the draftable talent of a top 5 offense both in overall offensive talent but also top end talent.

    43 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

    What's more objective than passing stats and wins?

    Oh but wait, that was because of the team, because our other QBs had worse teams, GTFO.

    With the advent and availability of advanced stats, passing stats don’t tell anywhere near the story.

    As referenced above, we have had/will have had tons of draftees the past two years.  We had the fastest combine 40 WR of all time.  We had the fastest pair of all time.  Then followed that up the next year with the fastest WR 40 time and the fastest WR top-end speed.  Three OTs drafted over the 2 years.  Two TEs drafted - in back to back years.  The highest drafted RB one year.

    Objectively, no other QB had access to that level of mature talent.  No other Texas team can match that.

    And as for wins, the past two years our backups are undefeated in their starts. One of those QBs reportedly was asked to leave his new program so he’s not the second coming of Patrick Mahomes.  Yet he won.

     

    As for Ewers it’s all in front of him.  His experiences here have likely prepared him well for the next level.  He has some uniqueness to his game.  I’d bet he gets drafted higher than many expect - no later than round 2 is my bet.  I’d put his chances of success at pretty solid.  None of that changes his career here.  As for many QBs, he needs that right environment.

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  12. 2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

    Milroe could be a good quarterback. But he's got a lot of areas he needs to develop in to become what Warner considers a good NFL qb.

    Kurt never offers an opinion of where a guy should be drafted, does he suck or rule, etc.

    His opinions take the form, "Here's what this guy does well and needs to improve upon in order to succeed as an NFL QB." It's both more straightforward and nuanced.

    He thinks Ewers has fewer flaws, and his flaws are more easily correctable, than the average Surly loudmouth/bottom-feeding NFL draft commentator.

    Warner is pretty level headed and has a unique experience.  From what I gather, he doesn’t seem to place limits on a player which goes along with your point above about where they should get drafted and whether QBs are quality or a miserable failure waiting to happen.

    His comment about progressions is interesting.  That can be a coaching flaw that may overrule a players instincts.  You go here #1 then here’s #2, and here’s #3 rather than the defensive play call dictating your #1, at least how interpreted his comment.  Much of what you see in a QB is more reflective of how they’ve been taught than what they can potentially do.  That philosophy can help wrack up stats but may cause struggles when all things aren’t going as planned.

    Milroe still is relatively young.  Certainly compared to Nix, Daniels, and Penix.  I’d assume his QB upbringing up until college was less than ideal in the sense of developing him as a great passer.  Then he had a new staff this year with quite a few new targets.  And being a running QB changes the equation too.  I’m not talking about the occasional scamper or keep em honest 3rd down keeper but a designated focal point of the rushing attack.  One should not expect him to be refined at this point.

    I would be interested in Milroe starting in the 3rd round but not as a starter this year.  I’d rather have him there than Shadeur in the last half of the 1st or 2nd.  There’s probably something to lean on with guys who have a ton of collegiate starts because the processing part helps a great deal with the accuracy.  
     

    I would lean more towards a Jalen Hurts comp than Anthony Richardson with the hope that the surrounding environment would support the QB as it does for Hurts.

    It will be interesting to see it play out.

  13. 43 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

    I am not referring to 2022, but rather 2021. That CWS was the starter, Cole Quintanilla, and get it to the ninth for Aaron Nixon. Sometimes Texas brought a starter back in relief. When that starter didn't go the necessary innings for the Quintanilla bridge to Nixon, they started using Witt and that was it.

    That 2022 team got killed at the CWS, both games were basically over before a reliever ever saw the mound.

    It was different in 2021 when there was basically no bullpen, and it did hurt then.

    In 2021, we had Pete Hansen, Madden and Stevens as starters.  Witt was a full time reliever with Cole then Nixon.

    There were several guys with good numbers like Southard and Gordon.

    In the end if the offense shows up, we beat MSU 2 of 3 instead of losing 2 of 3.  If we win game 1, we shift that stress to MSU.

    In that final loss to MSU, we were one pitcher short.  Stevens did not go deep in the UTenn game so Witt had to extend.  That was Witts longest outing by 2.1 innings.  Unfortunately, two games later he wasn’t as good.

    The final game was Cole’s longest of the year.  The two games prior were Nixons most innings on back-to-back days all season.

    In the end, we extended our 3 bullpen guys beyond what they had done.  If we had trusted 1 more guy, it may have made a difference.

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  14. 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

    But there are situations where that ridiculous early acceleration is more important than top end speed.  In fact, I'd say acceleration is more important most of the time.  A world class sprinter doesn't reach their top speed until at least 50 meters (~ 55 yards), and those are rare football plays.

    You can ‘yeah, but’ this to death. The truth is that any player will rarely reach top speed.  They’ll also never start in a sprinter stance and run 40 yards straight.  It’s interesting, to me anyway, that about 40 WRs ran the 40 at the combine but only a dozen did the shuttle and 3-cone drill.  I’d say the combo of those 3 is more meaningful than a 40 alone yet few want to put that comparative data out there.

  15. 2 hours ago, Voluminous Banality said:

    How would it not be like Taaffe, who most of this board assumed would never amount to anything and then became an All American, you mouth-breathing dimwit? Just because you don't understand a simple point of comparison doesn't mean that anyone here wants to listen to more of your inane and imbecilic drivel than we've already had the misfortune of being exposed to.

    Edit: If you're going to insult someone and call them stupid, at least spell and punctuate correctly. Taaffe was spelled correctly in the very post you quoted.

    Just to play along.

    Walkon versus scholarship.

    Offense versus defense.

    Tall versus short.

    Fast versus slow.

    The first two play a large part of factoring in Taaffe’s play.  But defensively it is too easy to blame the nearest man on a defensive failure rather than one who is likely to be at fault which then evolves into he should never play, he’s too slow, too physically limited.

  16. 1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

    could they not get the ball to him in Houston either?

    Ewers got Golden career highs in catches, yards, TDs, and yards per catch.  Oh, and helped him to College Football Playoff semi-final appearance.

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  17. 6 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

    You sure about that, champ? 

    Pretty certain Bond had the second fastest top end speed.  Thought Bond was 2nd behind the DB.

    I never said Bond was quicker to 40.  Pretty sure dudes beat Usain Bolt to 30-40 yards too.  Were they faster than him too?

  18. Coming in to this season, Golden had 76 catches and 13 TDs.  Bond had 65 and 5. 
     

    Golden now has 134 catches and 22 TDs and a season best 17.4 per catch.  Bond is at 99, 9 and 15.9.  Looking at numbers last year regarding Mitchell, there weren’t many high WR draft picks that didn’t compile over 100 catches.

    Golden was open quite a bit here from the getgo. There’s a good chance he was always better than Bond.  People just didn’t identify because of their biases.  Combine numbers reflect Bond is faster.  That was assumed from the outset and hasn’t changed.

    Im not sure I’d take Golden in the 1st round, but there’s a lot to like about his game.  And you can support it with production and individual highlights.
     

     

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  19. 1 hour ago, cochamps said:

    Sorry (not sorry) to nit pick, but "conference" is redundant.  CJ Vogel drives me nuts with this usage.

    I’ll do my best to not repeat this sin but no guarantees.  Also to clarify, winning 2 of 3 in a series or a season against an SEC team doesn’t provide you a similar hosting privilege.

  20. 20 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    This sentiment simply isn't accurate as some sort of rule. The cumulative effect upon a team's record, when adding losses other than on weekends, ultimately has a psychological impact on those judging the sport. Lose one Tuesday night game, no one cares. Lose 3-4 plus 33% of your conference games, it impacts your seed. 

    I’m not disagreeing with the cumulative impact.  The SEC is pretty damn insulated however.

    You only have to go back to 2023 and Auburn as an example.  They lost 3 midweek games.  The final 2 were cancelled.  They also lost 2 of 3 to Southeastern Louisiana.  They were 17-13 in conference.  Throw in the tourney they were 18-15.  Prior to the post season they won 8 straight then finished it off going 0-2 while hosting the regional.  
     

    As a point of comparison, our midweek win % last year was 69% versus Auburns at 70%.  And quick glance shows we played 2 back-to-back midweek games to their 1.

    Every year is different so certainly there are no absolutes.  If you win 2/3rds of your SEC conference games, you’ll really have to shit yourself in non-conference to not host a regional.  That win percentage probably puts you top 4 in the conference.

  21. 1 hour ago, MirrOlure said:

    …and if I recall correctly, Kirk Dressendorfer would have been ready to go in what should have been Game 2…which of course we’d have won Whatever-0

    From what I recall WSU had their #1 pitch in that game too.

  22. 47 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

    Recruiting wasn’t elite for any number of reasons and his refusal to let anyone else actually do any pitching coaching was his downfall. And by all accounts was hard to play for.

    I have not paid much attention to rankings much historically but was a bit curious this weekend.

     

    Perfect Game rankings on a per player basis had us 3rd in 2024.  From what I could tell this was post draft.  We lost was it 3 to the draft? In 2023 we were 8th on a per player basis. We were 15th in 2022.

    For 2022, Tennessee, Florida State, Alabama and Kentucky recruited a lower quality player.

    We were in the ballpark.  As of now, we’re at the top for 2025 and 2026.  There’s no doubt NIL and the SEC matter.  Using that top 15, there were around 8 non-ACC/SEC teams over the past 3 years.

    Maybe there’s a correlation with Allen.

    There is plenty of talent here.  And quite a bit of it is experienced and mature.

    Sounds like lots of weird stuff behind the scenes but a lot of issues last year were injury related - Witt, Mercer, Shaw, Harrison, Santos (I’d like to know this guys story).

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