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  1. 45 minutes ago, Nivek said:

    Now contrast that with those that go to church but then ignore the messages of love and humanity from Jesus and go straight to oppressing the shit out of anybody different than them.    

    Insert "they're the same picture" meme here.

    31 minutes ago, PTINS said:

    This.

    A "peaceful" protest, the end result of which was the US Capitol was taken over by a violent mob that assaulted uniformed police officers, and openly sought to apprehend elected government officials.

    These is a place for everything. Not every place is for everything.

    Isn't that what witnesses say before things went to shit?  It happens somewhere damn near every day.

    Kids in flip flops protesting? Who cares.

    Masked people with backpacks protesting? hummm? What's up with that?

    A large group, students and masked individuals, protesting "against" the most persecuted group of people in the history of the world? Prudent to err on the side of caution.

    You can say that, after the fact. No way you could guarantee that before it happened.

    Charles Whitman was a MODEL citizen, until he "occupied" the UT Tower and killed and wounded almost 50 people. 

    Blacklab is moderating a message board. Give him a fucking break.

    This is a volatile topic that is not borderline CR, it is very much right down the middle CR. Take the CR to the CR, and have at it. Most of the posts here are inflammatory rhetoric, not factual information.

    Blacklab has deleted my posts that I knew were too heavy CR, and they should have been deleted. I posted them knowing that, I exercised my rights, and Blacklab did the same.

    I repectfully disagree.  

    Allowing unlawful assemblies of large groups of people, students or otherwise, is putting people and property at risk.

    Was the protest peaceful? Yes.

    Was there a significant probability it might not be peaceful? Yes, given what has transpired across the country the past few months.

    Does the UTPD have adequate resources to "control" the number of people that gathered? IDK, but I'm betting they don't. (One would thing the US Government could protect the Capitol, who knew?)

    Could this unlawful protest have gone off the rails and become more unlawful to the detriment of all involved? Absolutely.

    Allowing an unlawful assembly with the potential to take over the university, shut it down, and reduce it to an online educational platform is unacceptable. That is one step removed from just shutting down the university.

    People protest, get arrested, get released. Some cheer, and others complain. No biggie.

    The only difference is people bring guns and bombs with them now.

    You literally just posted a screed advocating for prior restraint of speech based on what MIGHT happen.  I mean, even Walter fucking Sobchak knows that's bullshit.

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    By your argument, we should not allow ANY Trump rallies because the one he held on January 6th turned violent, and he still uses violent rhetoric sometimes.  So, when he shows up around here, we're not gonna allow that lawless shitshow on OUR watch, nosiree!  We'll send an entire division of armored and armed DPS shock troops to break those likely hooligans up!  Right?

    Fucking of course not.

    The rights of free speech and freedom of assembly are the most misunderstood constitutional rights.

     

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  2. 2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

    But the issue Hartzell took was with time, place and manner.

    When both state law and UT policy set "time place and manner" restrictions that functionally make all public areas of the university open for protest, then there really weren't any such restrictions in play here.  Greg Abbott cheered like hell when he signed a law in 2019 having that EXACT effect.  But now, he is telling us he didn't mean it.  Because....

    4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

    Which can be enforceable if content neutral.  

    ....these actions were not content neutral.  How do we know that?  The governor who issued the orders to the DPS said, in a published statement, that it was based on the CONTENT of the protesters' positions.

    This was a shitshow clusterfuck fascism jerkoff session, from start to finish.

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  3. 6 hours ago, Gap03 said:

    Gaaawd, I hate motherfuckers like Alito who drop the "I want a simple, clear-cut answer" to complicated issues like this. He's obviously equipped to deal with nuance, and she had just answered the question as clearly as it could be answered.  It seems like he was looking for a "well, an abortion might be warranted in some limited mental health emergencies " so he (or Fox News) could scream, "Aha!! Mental health isn't 'real' and all those liberal doctors are gonna be using this as a basis for terminating pregnancies at 37 weeks!! SLiPpeRY SlOPe!1!!"  

     

    Edith Jones (5th cir) pulled that shit on me once.  I knew where she was TRYING to go.  But I made her ask the complete question, which when asked in full form, was stupid, and plainly so.  She gave an exasperated sigh, and said "what I'm ASKING is....."  And then I answered "in that case, no."  And then moved on to my next issue.  

    I didn't exactly lose her -- she was plainly against my client from the start.  But I could at least avoid giving her the satisfaction of thinking she succeeded with a clever gotcha.

    These old dinosaur fake "conservative" judges are all the fucking same. 

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  4. Just now, wildcat09 said:

    Again, y’all just need to search for posts with the word “speech” made by Johnny Sack, and see his complete about face on it here (not so cleverly disguised as simply adhering to first amendment precedent), to realize he’s completely full of shit and simply trolling y'all to get a rise out of you.

    His favor/disfavor of speech is just like that of our State leadership: entirely, 100% dependent on the content.

    Right wing speech?  Everything must be allowed.  Everything.  No matter how hateful, purposefully intimidating, or violent.

    Anything he deems "liberal" speech?  He'll never find a skullcracking crush of a protest that he doesn't support.

    That is how fascists work.

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  5. 1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

    You disagree with the Second Circuit's opinion?  Why?

    How about "it doesn't matter."  If a protester was arrested for violating the "no-mask" policy, then discuss that protester.  Shutting down an entire protest because some protesters MIGHT don a mask?  That means you can shut down all protests, every time, about everything.  Which is not what the law supports, at all.

    And of course, the open statements by State leadership, including the man who issued the orders to the DPS, that the actions of the authorities here were because of the CONTENT of the speech, not the CONDUCT of the protesters, fucking sinks the whole goddamned thing.

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  6. 8 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

    It's almost if DPS had never showed up yesterday, the same thing would have happened.

    Ding ding ding.

    DPS was not dispatched like a fucking military force to KEEP the peace.  They were dispatched for the express purpose of "cracking skulls."  So...like....the exact opposite of "keeping the peace."

    If you show up somewhere geared up to fight, and hollering "you fuckers wanna fight me?  You want some?  LET'S GO!".....then the chances of there being a fight are 1000X times higher than if you don't show up at all, or show up and are chill.

    I remember when UT advanced to the Elite Eight in 1990.  Students spontaneously gathered on the drag and the W. Mall, cheering and celebrating.  We even crowded the street, blocking traffic on Guadalupe.  APD dispatched some cops, pretty much in regular uniform.  They gently cleared us to the sidewalks, opening up the street.  I think they arrested a coupla dudes who were jumping up and down on a bus.  But once the crowd got in order, they functionally withdrew, sending a solid unspoken message of "have your fun, but behave."  And that's exactly what happened.  Instead of showing up and spoiling for a fight, they showed up, made sure that shit didn't get out of hand, and then backed off.  It was a perfect exercise in how to keep the peace.

    Our current State leadership isn't interested in that.  Not in the least.  They are too busy enjoying their "Johnny's First Fascist Regime" playset.

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  7. Went on a self-guided rafting, fly fishing trip in 2012 to SW Alaska.  Weather delayed our arrival by a day on our in-bound flight by float plane to the drop off lake.  This had a reverberating effect when it was time to be picked up by our wheel plane at the local Inuit airstrip 5 days later.  Flights were delayed across the region and we were worried if we were going to make it back to Anchorage for the return flight to DFW the following morning.
    I took a .44 magnum for bear protection on the trip along with a full box of heavy load ammo.  I dutifully checked in my firearm and ammo at DFW at the start of the trip.  But when the float trip ended , we were delayed getting back to Anchorage.  We made it back to Anchorage late, took a cab to our hotel, made the driver wait while we dropped our luggage.  Then we had him drive us to a bad ass pizza place in town before it closed.
    After long day of breaking camp, rowing to our pickup point, traveling by boat to the airstrip, taking a plane to Dillingham, taking a turbo prop to Anchorage, and eating pizza and drinking beer, I was dead tired.  Asked my buddy at the hotel what time our flight was the next morning and he said something like 10:00 am.  I immediately went to bed.  Woke up about 7:00 the next morning, about to take a shower for the first time in 6 days.   But decided to check my phone first to see what time our flight left.  Flight leaves in an hour.  

    We make a mad dash to the airport, check my revolver in at ticketing and put it in my check in duffle bag and quickly proceed to security carrying my backpack as they are announcing boarding for my flight.
    I forgot to remove my box of ammo from my backpack.  Gulp…
     
     

    You were at least traveling on a hunting trip. This dipshit was just going to a beach.
    To be clear, I have a backpack that has ammo and such in it. It’s the ONLY bag I use to carry ammo (other than range bags, which literally only go to the range and back).
    I have another backpack that does not.
    The first backpack goes ONLY on hunting trips. The second does not.
    There. For those of us who aren’t flying with ammo on purpose, I just gave you the easy, guaranteed way to avoid accidentally traveling with ammo.
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  8. This thread turned to shit weeks ago when multiple turds when floated out of the CR and started shitting in this thread. If they want to suck terrorist dick and complain about the Gaza war, they should do so back in the CR, or start another thread. Instead they cry about "bOoTliCKers" and "FaSciStS" and further shit in this thread.

    Wait…so this thread is only for….CELEBRATING the war in Gaza? That’s a hot take.
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  9. I have watched your metamorphosis over the course of this thread on this particular topic, so not all hope is lost. 

    Funny thing is, my overall position hasn’t changed that much.
    I still think that pro Palestinian protesters who chant “from the river to the sea” are often calling for extermination of Israel and Jews (often, they aren’t shy about calling for exactly that).
    And I still think that Israel has a right to defend itself…but not to commit genocide or purposefully target civilians to further their goal of ethnically cleansing Gaza of Palestinians.
    And I certainly think that both “sides” have allowed their path to be dominated by their worst elements, and are doing so today. Israeli shit with settlements, Palestinian shit with terrorist attacks, and we only get more of both.
    And finally, I believe that anyone, supporting or opposing either side, or any cause whatsoever (Blueberry pop tarts must be available in the Union!) must be allowed to peaceably assemble to seek redress of their grievances. Period, full stop, content matters ZERO. No violence or terrorizing of others? Keep on keeping on.

    As a society and a species, we are getting none of this right.
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  10. What starts here hopefully does actually change the world. 
     

    You, of all people, know that it won’t. Not even a little bit. All that was proven today is that there are no good guys. Just bad guys, and those cowards who can’t help but enable them.
    I said it several years ago, and as I recall, you agreed with me: there is nobody coming to save us. There’s nothing between us and the shitstorm. Not a single thing.
  11. Fucking cowards 

    It’s cowards manipulating cowards, all the way down. The fascists and their pathetic, simp jackboots are cowards: they can show up in force and “crack skills” when it’s some protesters, including that unarmed skinny girl they bravely arrested…but ask them to go through ONE kid with an AR to save a room full of kids, and there’s no receptacle on earth large enough to hold all the piss they soil themselves with.
    And the people who could speak truth, and use their position to call them out? Cowards. More interested in saving their own skin than in standing up for the people they are supposed to serve.
    Indeed, if we had this bunch around in 1836, the only risk Santa Anna would run is having his dick chafe from all the people eager to kneel and blow him.
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  12. Yeah, I realize that now that I typed it.  I'm just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.  He didn't handle this well, but it truly fell into his lap at the last minute, and he's trying to play janitor.  
    This is Abbott, Longoria, and Eltife.  Down the line, up and sideways.  And Jay has to be the guy left holding the bag of shit even though he would have maintained a great UT administration.  And people will line up to suck Abbott's dick over this and spit on Jay as he walks out the tower with his personal effects in a cardboard box.  Because we're Texas.  And there is almost nothing we can't fuck up in the name of "Independence!" 

    Or…he could stand his ground, and fight for the people of Texas. Even though the odds are against him, he is outnumbered, and he is sure to fall. Because Texans know that by taking a public stand for what is right, knowing you will fall…is exactly how you win.

    No chance of that happening, though. We are a state of unprincipled cowards now. It’s our brand.
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  13. Maybe women never wanted to have 5-6 kids (or any at all) but were forced to for labor or societal reasons. When they actually had, you know, agency, they made the decisions they always wanted to make.

    You should remember that the people who claim the loudest to stand for “freedom and liberty” don’t actually mean it. Women having agency is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity, and they very much want to undo it.
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