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  1. 8 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

    I think, beyond the "request for humanitarian aid" from the PHD in "imagination and poetry" the Hamas fanboi who could offer no actual logical reason to his love of Hamas was my favorite take so far.

    This appears to have a good bit of the Occupy movement "logic" on/development of one thing devolving into something completely different.

    "Movements" inevitably draw dipshits.  The Occupy Movement, the Tea Party, MAGA and Qanon, Pro-Palestine, Pro-Israel, No Nukes, Save the Whales, Critical Mass....you name it, I've seen em all over the past 50 years, and every single one of them ends up attracting some Grade-A dipshits.  I remember many years ago, the Critical Mass group (remember them?  They were kinda sorta a radical group for the rights of bicyclists to be on the road?) was doing one of its periodic group rides through the streets as a protest to slow traffic.  A newspaper reporter rode along with them, and they ended up chanting or calling for a variety of things....including, when they rode by the animal shelter, some of them calling to "liberate the animals!"  Made it clear that the group - while it had some defined ideals with some sort of merit - was also a magnet for generally disaffected people who just wanted to start shit.

    This movement is not materially better or worse than any of the others.  There's plenty in it, and in its basis, that has merit (I mean....Israel IS killing the fuck out of Palestinian civilians, and I think it's a decent moral decision to speak out against that and to try to put pressure on things and people who might help change that), but it draws the dipshits: the extremists, the lost folks looking for a place to call home, the gullible, the dudes going along with stupid shit because they think it'll get them laid (I remember well a story that Michael Caine told about going to a bonafide communist rally, just because he was trying to shag a girl who was going).  All of this shit shakes out in the end.  A lot of the radicalized dipshits will move on to something else -- or to nothing else at all -- in short order.  They always do.

    What the gov't shouldn't do is give them more credit or attention than they are due.  Not less, either.  Want to get the Columbia students out of the building?  Go on in, arrest them, and drag them out.  If they resist with violence, have your body cams on, capture it, restrain them, arrest them, and add that to the charges.  But as to the ones who aren't really starting any shit?  Leave 'em be.  Lack of attention will destroy them.  AND, in the process, also respect the Constitution, which is kinda important.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

     

     

    I have no problem with him voicing either sentiment (fuck them US and Israel).  Both are political sentiments.

    Of course, with freedom comes consequences.  He may well see what future employers think of that.  Take big boy actions, then you play by big boy rules.  That's the thing that few of these nimrods (left or right) seem to get.  It reminds me of the various white supremacists getting pissed when they were doxxed and lost their jobs -- "waaah, I wanted to do Nazi shit, but not shoulder any of the consequences of being a known Nazi."  Those things don't go together.  You are free to take whatever stand you want, and other people are free to think you are a POS because of it, and refuse to be associated with you.  White hood/mask yelling "white power" or black and white keffiyeh yelling "burn down the US and Israel," doesn't much matter -- there's a large group who will judge you to be a shitty person.

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  3. 3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    My son’s Boy Scout troop camps in primitive areas and these are kids from 11-17 or so years old, and yet somehow they are able to hike up to a mile, bringing in their own water, food, tents, sleeping bags, clothes, etc.  And it’s food they are cooking and not some freeze-dried shir, These 18-and-up students couldn’t be bothered to hit up the McDonalds down the block, or bring a case or two of granola bars or bring some water jugs and fill them up once inside.

    Yep.  Nothing they are doing will attract Israel or Hamas’s attention or change any minds whatsoever.  It’s clearly for the social media likes, based on the lack of preparation.  The fact they didn’t prepare makes me think they wouldn’t actually get in and be stuck there.

    And based on my knowledge of protests at UT, I’d bet half the guys there are trying to get into the pants of one of the women (or men).

    The bolded QFT.  Because 18-22 yr olds are not the best complex thinkers.  And the males among them are among the simplest of thinkers.

  4. 10 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

    The mall is not a fucking campground.  Leave your tent at home and protest all you want.

    And that's why the Governor said he was busting up the protests!  No tents!  Follow the rules!

    Oh wait...that's not what he said at all.  He said, in plain language, that the protests were busted up for their content:

     

     

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  5. 2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

    Was there ever a doubt?  And if not AG, Ken will hold some cabinet position.

    And this is truthcasting.  By late 2026, Paxton will either be the US Attorney General, or the newly elected junior Senator from the State of Texas.

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  6. 22 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

     

     

    Wait.....someone's GOTTA have a screencap of the last scene, the arrest of the, uhh, little person.  That's fantastic.

    Also, if only we had a buncha cops who were able to put on a large show of force to stop violence.  But they were all busy strapping on their riot gear and cracking skulls of students protesting down on campus.  Priorities, ya know.

     

    Also, E. 6th is and has been a shithole for some time.  Hell, pre-pandemic, we went to Esthers Follies for the first time in better than a decade.  After the show, we walked up 6th back to my office on Congress.  We walked.....quickly.

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  7. 9 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:

    This is true, but one thing that seems to be lacking in a lot of young people who get involved in these efforts today is an understanding

    Young people don't make the best decisions, and are prone to believing their own bullshit at the expense of actually being effective advocates.  Film at 11:00 to cover this shocking expose.

    I found most student protests to be stupid and ham-handed even back in my campus days, regardless of the topic.  Because 18-22 year olds are not the wisest bunch.  But they're also figuring shit out.  And what better place to figure shit out/learn than a university campus?

    Next thing you're gonna tell me is that young people sometimes ingest more substances than their reasonable limit, and make poor decisions about sexual partners and whatnot.  Don't tell me that, I just can't handle the shock to my system, I may come down with a touch of the vapors.

    4 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

    Again, in the case of UT, it sorta feels like they went right to the "clearing out" portion without some of the interim steps that usually occur with a protesting group.

    This.  Which tells us that the goal was the display of "look at us being tough, fuck those libtards" as opposed to being to actually protect any real campus interests.  I don't think any of us on here would have a problem with clearing all protesters and their gear at 10:00 pm. -- that's a good, clean, content-neutral and reasonable rule to keep the campus safe and clean.  You can show up every day, from here to eternity, to protest.  But you can't take up residence when you do so.

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  8. 1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

    Palestinian Supporter: I won't vote for Biden because he sends weapons to Israel

    ME: Even if the other guy wants Israel to kill all Palestinians and Muslims?

    Palestinian Supporter: I just can't support Biden

    Me: FML

    This.  It is readily apparent that we swim in a fucking ocean of stupidity, with functionally no rafts to cling to.  It's stupid, in every direction, as far as the eye can see.  Right, left, all of it.  Stupidity is our brand.  We might as well just put "WE ARE SO FUCKING STUPID" on all of our coinage.

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  9. 6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

    Y'all are surprised that a black man in America is skeptical that a rich white man is going to face any real consequences for his behavior?

    Bingo.  Snacks is a regular attendee at the Church of Ain't Nothin' Gonna Happen.  I would know, we share a pew.  

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  10. 22 minutes ago, Skipper said:

    JFC Brisket. This isn't a law school exam.   If "the cops shouldn't have arrested them until 10PM" is the hill you are going to die on, fine.   But we all know damn well their goal was to push past the line in the sand and get arrested yesterday whether that happened at 2PM or 10PM.   There is exactly a zero percent chance they picked up their tent and went home at sundown.

    Cool.  So, we can beat and arrest people for future crime.  Just want to get your position on the record.

    Also, I parked the other night at 7:30 pm, without paying, in a metered space that said the meter was active from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm.  By your reasoning, I should have gotten a ticket, because I'm a known anti-authoritarian who likes to push boundaries, so I was gonna leave it there past 8:00 am without paying.

    Reasonable and proper application of the law often IS a "law school exam question."  You guys wanna put up tents in solidarity?  Cool.  I think it's silly, I think your whole protest is silly, but the mission and needs of the university can be met and protected so long as your act of solidarity doesn't go past 10 pm.  Oh, you say you intend to stay after 10 pm? Well, I'm going to encourage you not to do that, because we will come by and remove all tents at 10:01.  I then have cops out there at 9:50 saying nicely "folks, curfew is at 10:00, so we need y'all and your stuff out in ten minutes.  And you can't return until 8:00 tomorrow."  Then, when they don't move (you know, when they ACTUALLY break the rules), remove them and their tents.

    Future crime isn't a thing.

    1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

    They're not "tents", they are almost all canopies like you see at kids soccer games.  Who the fuck would want to crawl in some hot ass tent, bereft of airflow before a game?

    It's like you've never even heard of a sex tent.  @Wulaw Horn can educate you.

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  11. 4 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

    As for peacefully stating their position, the next time they do that will be the first time. 

    Really.....so you didn't hear any statements, see any signs, etc. from the UT student protests that peacefully stated their position?  Way to tell us that you haven't seen any of the photos or video.

  12. 7 minutes ago, Skipper said:

    If your position is Texas not allowing the South Mall to turn into a tent city is a "stupid rule" - I had to tell you that I'm confident you have an extreme minority position.

    Really?  Because we allow portions of campus and other state property to be turned into a "tent city" with great frequency and regularity.  Or, perhaps you've never been on campus on a football weekend, with tents all over?  Now, all of those circumstances have a rule to protect the overriding interest of the state and the university to not be turned into a permanent/overnight encampment: tents can only go up at a certain time, and must be taken down by a certain time.  I'm sure that if you leave your tent up on a state lot after hours, and refuse to vacate, DPS will remove you and your tent.  But to argue that a blanket "no tents, ever, for any amount of time" rule is necessary to protect the interest of that public property flies in the face of the fact that we have a different rule when you're putting up a tent for the purpose of celebrating longhorn football.

    A rule that says "no tents can remain after hours/no overnight camping" would make perfect sense, and would almost certainly be enforceable as a reasonable time, place, and manner restriction.  The fact that I can put up a picture of the university and state property covered in tents on other dates for a different purpose demonstrates that the university actually does not need or enforce a strict "no tents ever" policy.  Nor should it.  Because that blanket policy would be dumb as hell.

  13. I’m a super big fan of the people who love to get to their office super early, and decide to start calling people then. Love it when my phone rings and it’s a client or some such while I’m brushing my teeth at 7:00 am. Dude. The rest of the world does keep farmer’s hours like you do.

  14. Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

    I regret to inform you all that there are no sex tents at the GWU protests.

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    And had you told college-Brisket "hey, you can go to this protest, but we have a strict rule against you getting laid".......

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  15. Just now, Longhornfan1024 said:

    To the first part of your response: even if UT can choose to waive its rules in the interest of keeping the peace, all that does is create the playbook for every other group to come to campus and violate UT's rules.  Are you the KKK and you want to protest against the abolition of slavery in violation of UT's rules?  Tell them you are going to violate the rules ahead of time and occupy campus.  Start at Greg, move to the South Mall, and set up a tent encampment.  Make sure to wear your masks. 

    To the second part of your response: I agree that using mounted troopers and anti-riot tactics created some awful images, but I'm curious about how you would prefer UT to have acted.  Do they send a couple of low-paid dean of students admins to try and disperse the crowd?  Send the entirety of the UTPD police force to that one area of campus and still be out numbered?    

    The playbook has existed for years.  It's just that this regime doesn't want to follow it.  The playbook is: take incremental steps.  Start with non-uniformed administrators/officials visiting with the protest leaders to discuss the process, and obtain clarity.  Then, have a handful of uniformed campus police do the same.  Issue a direct warning and directive, ideally telling the protesters how they can continue the protest within the rules (e.g., "based on your current intentions as you have stated them, so long as you remove the tents, remove face coverings, and leave by 10:00 pm, being free to return when campus opens at 7:00 am, we will not take any action to disperse the protest.")  You then obtain the response from the protesters.  Then you send out a larger group of police to disperse them.  If/when the protesters respond with violence (throwing rocks, etc.), then you bring in a larger show of force in riot gear.  

    That is a solid evidentiary record to demonstrate that you have attempted to accommodate all reasonable First Amendment protected activity.

    And you should do that with every group.  Yes, including the KKK.

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  16. 4 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

    I agree with this first part but you lose me here. If a white guys is yelling at only black people it is racist same would go for anyone targeting Jews. “Destroy Israel” yeah that doesn’t come off as antisemitic at all…

    Racist speech, so long as it doesn't call for violence or make specific threats of violence to individuals and the like - abhorrent as it is - is generally going to be protected speech as well.  To be clear, antisemitic speech, so long as it remains non-violent in its messaging, is legal.  I hate it.  I don't agree with it.  But for the 1,000th time, we don't get to ban speech just because we don't agree with it and find it loathsome.

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  17. 3 minutes ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

    Brisket, you're an attorney and you know better than this.  There is a difference between what a private university like Chicago or Northwestern can do and what a public university like UT can do.  If UT chooses not to enforce its rules against this group because they are protesting for a 'good cause' then UT can't enforce its rules against any group.  Otherwise, that would be viewpoint-based discrimination in violation of the first amendment.  It's all or nothing when it comes to enforcing the rules as a public institution, and it sounds like this group intended to and did violate UT's rules.    

    Your blanket statement is false.  If UT chooses to waive a rule in the interest of keeping the peace, that is not dispositive as to all future actions (regardless of viewpoint).  It can be evidence, yes, which is why a well-run entity documents the action, the reasoning therefor, and all communications with the protesting group to that effect.   And further, the mechanism of enforcement is also quite discretionary.  One doesn't have to go right to "deploy a Roman phalanx with tear gas and truncheons."

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