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Posts posted by Brisketexan
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I think they are exactly the type of people who will turn in GOLL once Trump’s SS wants to know who’s loyal.
They have no problems with pain happening to the others. But once the others are gone, GOLL may become a target as ‘other-lite’. Not brown-ish, but still an enemy of the people.
Turning in friends and relatives might be the line in the sand for some folks, but with MAGA, banking on that would be a fool’s bet.
This. It’s literally the way it ALWAYS goes with authoritarian regimes, which are almost always built on unifying and consolidating power on a foundation of demonizing the “other.”
They purge the initial “other.” But they still need an enemy. So they expand the definition of “other.” Again, and again. Eventually including people in former in-groups, even former regime insiders.
Idiots think the regime will never come for them. And time after time, they are wrong.-
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1 hour ago, Hitch said:
I hate war crimes and really want them to stop. There’s a really easy way to make sure they stop happening. It’s not overly complicated.
So, let me read that the way that a war crimes tribunal should read it:
"So, your defense against the charge that you committed war crimes against civilian residents of Belligerent X is 'well, I wouldn't have war crimed all of those civilians if Belligerent X woulda just surrendered.'"
Yeah, not only is that not a defense, it is actually an admission that you are 1) using war crimes and the threat of continuing to commit war crimes to 2) coerce Belligerent X into acceding to your demands.
This is impressive. You've actually managed to make yourself out to be MORE of a piece of shit scumbag who supports war crimes. You are as awful a human being as can be imagined. Hell is too good for people like you.
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1 hour ago, Hitch said:
I’m not ok with it, that’s not the point here.
straw man, moving the goalposts, tu quoque etc. You are a fucking liar, and you deal only in logical fallacies. The EXACT conversation is about the IDF targeting civilians at food distribution centers. Not one fucking word about "weapon stockpiles" or any of that bullshit.
You tirelessly look for justification for war crimes, when a human being of ANY moral character sees and condemns the war crime.
And no, I'd say the group that hates Palestinians the most is the group that has openly stated that they intend to purge all of Gaza of them, completely and totally (the openly stated goal of the Israeli regime and its internal partners). It's a stiff competition, as the gulf states and Palestinian leadership aren't helpful and are actually harmful, but that has nothing to do with the fact that the IDF is purposefully murdering civilians at food distribution points.
THOSE civilian deaths aren't a "masturbatory release" -- they are instead the result of deliberate policy of extermination and ethnic cleansing. That - as we decided in the wake of such actions with respect to jews 80+ years ago, is bad.
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57 minutes ago, Hitch said:
Of course it does. Many, many civilians die in every war, which is why it’s a very bad idea to start them. They need to stop.
Jesus.
Proposition 1: Civilians die in wars, because wars are messy. TRUE.
Proposition 2: Intentionally TARGETING civilians (as opposed to them being incidental casualties) is a war crime. ALSO TRUE.
The issue here is not Proposition 1 (sure, it merits its own discussion, the full scope of the war, etc., but that's not what is being raised re the food distribution point slaughters). The issue is Proposition 2.
There is much reason to conclude/evidence demonstrating that the IDF is intentionally targeting and killing civilians at food aid distribution points. If that is true, it is a war crime. We should not support the commission of war crimes, we should demand accountability for such war crimes, particularly because they are using our weapons etc. to do so.
Jesus fucking christ, the dismissal - FFS, the GLEE - reflected in posts that are okay with the intentional murder of civilians is fucking sick. If you support the INTENTIONAL targeting of civilians in Gaza because Hamas is bad and started shit it shouldn't have, you are a genuinely evil piece of shit.
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ICE is a military force. And by budget size, it’s something like the 5th largest in the world.
It’s insane. We are a militarized police state, geared entirely at xenophobia.-
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I think y'all need to back off the gringo accusations, this place looks legit:
Eye rolling goes here. Wife REALLY wanted to try it. Daughter got in from London this afternoon, so of course wanted Mexican food. Ok, we’re going.
We drive up. On Saturday night. Jesus Mexicano Christ…there must have been 200 people there, every one of them ripped out of a hipster/hang out at breweries stereotype. We didn’t even park.
We ended up at Maudie’s, which was great. Tio Chon FTW.-
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lol- was he going to parcel it out 4000 sq feet at a time to families, or did he expect “American families” to pony up millions to billions for huge tracts?
He’s lying. Every single thing he has said is a lie. Because he’s a MAGA Republican. Lying is their holiest sacrament.-
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52 minutes ago, Bevo said:
As long as the attorneys don’t use their free time gained through AI to take over the world, I guess I’m cool with that.
Pretty sure we'll just use it to post on Surly.
I have data on that hypothesis.
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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:Mary is flat bringing the truth here. Not all, to be sure. There are people too ignorant and gullible to get out of the bubble of self-selected facts. I know several non-horrible (not racist or nativist) Republicans who have empathy for other people and are not hate fountains. They live in all-MAGA families (and neighborhoods), and are people who place more value in not destroying relationship with those family/neighbors/church members than they do voting against Republicans and losing the societal acceptance that they feel they cannot live without."
Cool. You know what that makes them? Awful, garbage, evil people.
If you go along with evil because of self-interest vs. true belief, that is NOT a lesser evil. Shit, it may be greater, because you fucking know better and STILL support it.
Nope. Sorry. We are at the point in the timeline where if you support the Administration of Cruelty and Evil, for ANY reason, you have full moral culpability. "Hey, I just wanted to lift a buncha cash from the bank, I didn't want to murder the guards," when your buddies DID murder the guards so y'all could make your getaway, is zero defense to a felony murder charge for a really solid fucking reason.
Politics shouldn't be binary. Until a particular faction decides to plunge so headlong into extremism that they make it that way.
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The argument isn't invalid though, to align with other standard election cycles in an attempt to boost voter turnout.
This is correct. And I’m an alarmist, but this sort of thing isn’t unprecedented. Lots of local entities have/had May elections. They either delayed or moved them up in some cases to align with November elections, meaning they are much cheaper to run (the state was already going to have polling places set up). Some officials might see their term extended slightly, or shortened slightly.
Now, will THIS admin pull some other shenanigans? Of course.-
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You’d make an excellent rectal thermometer salesman.
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3 minutes ago, Bookman said:Why does she say that no one deserves to go through this? Clearly she does.
Yep. "I enthusiastically supported making other people suffer, but only when that suffering was visited upon ME did I realize that was a shitty thing."
Yeah. That makes you a really awful, terrible, shitty human being. So, you are perhaps the ONLY type of person who deserves to "go through this." "I wanted cruel and awful things for other people! I don't deserve to go through those things myself!" Fuck off, lady.
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“I was supporting a man and a movement that dehumanizes people.”
“My vote wasn’t just a mistake, it was the ultimate betrayal of the very people that I come from.”-
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33 minutes ago, Red Five said:
Non-white, non-male = Not deserving. White men however, are always deserving.
This is 100% the rule that they have an constantly apply. White men, by definition, cannot be a DEI hire, so they MUST be a merit hire.
Minorities/women CAN be a DEI hire, and therefore, all such hires ARE DEI hires, and are not merit-based.
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18 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:
How's the home reno going in the new place?
I hear it's going pretty well. They ordered a new shitstick from Pottery Barn. It's artisanal.
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7 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:
I'm actually not sure where I stand on the regulation stuff yet. The bill as I understand it is banning a patchwork of regulations via state laws. And even then states could enforce their own AI regulation, they just would be locked out of some AI funding and otehr stuff, right?
Correct in that it is incremental. Step 1: ban all state regulation. Step 2: full capture of Congress and the federal government so ensure no meaningful federal regulation of AI.
Dude. Step 2 is already accomplished. Step 1 is actually second in the order of operations, thus ensuring the overarching goal: no meaningful regulation of AI.
We are going to do more to make sure that no teenager can see tits on the internet than we're going to do to prevent AI and the internet from ensuring that teenager never has a job.
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1 minute ago, Vegas64 said:
It's one voice. And if it becomes the reality then it goes against everything we've ever seen or known in the history of technology in the world. Statistically so improbable it's completely irrational to use that as a buttress for your belief and worldview IMO.
The story of technology going back into forever (since literally dawn of man) is that OF COURSE technology displaces jobs, but the history of all of humanity is we find new things to do pretty effectively. Even Brisket. And especially Brisket's children and their children.
Well, certainly the smart thing to do is....completely ban all regulation of the technology for the next ten years. Yep, nothing to see here, no worries at all. Just a technology that more than one fucking person (he ain't the only one) says they intend to use to completely end human society and economies, with no replacement in mind.....and a government so in thrall to and captured by those voices that it is going to ban all regulation of that technology.
Goddamn, you'd chug the fucking kool-aid every damned time, wouldn't you?
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Just now, Vegas64 said:
Do you believe, to the detriment of demonstrable reality and facts and history, every provocative thing you hear?
Do I believe it, as in believe with 100% certainty it will happen? Of course not.
When it is a matter of sufficient severity, do I treat it as a threat worthy of our attention? Hell yes.
If the representation is "man, Brisket, if I ever met you in a bar, I'd probably punch your face in," I'm not terribly alarmed (shit, I've met me -- I probably couldn't blame you). If the representation is "Brisket, I am coming to your house tonight, at [my actual address], and I'm going to kill you and your wife as you sleep".....yeah, I'm legit alarmed. The severity of the outcome at risk absolutely figures in to how seriously we should take it.
"Hey, I intend to eliminate all human life, and here's how I'm going to do it," said by someone who has even an outside chance of accomplishing it? Fucking pay attention to that shit.
Jesus tapdancing Christ, we've spent the last 10+ years having person after person tell us we're being alarmist when there are threats to do things like, oh, I don't know, end birthright citizenship, repeal Roe v. Wade, use the DOJ as a personal law firm to pursue one man's vendettas, etc. etc. etc.....only to be fucking right about all of that shit. So, fuck your "you're just being alarmist" shit when there are billionaire oligarchs saying "Brisket, I am going to make sure your kids are unemployed, and unemployable, and have no means to make their way in this world." That's a clear and direct threat against my family and all of humanity. Take it fucking seriously.
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8 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:
I get why people are AI doomers, but I think this is extremely short-sighted, myopic and even a bit silly.
Technological paradigm shifts are scary when you are 58 years old like we are. But the world is not ending and things will shake out and new technology and business norms will eventually become...normal and boring. Like you using a macbook and lexus nexus and doing discovery via e-filing or whatever in your day to day life versus paper and pen.
You sound a lot like the draftsman who bemoaned how 3 floors of hundreds of manual drafting drawers with a great degree and skill and healthy income were thrown out for one guy to do CAD.
Or the thousands of bookkeepers and manual recorders organizations employed who with an upper middle class life were eliminated overnight with the advents of ERPs.
Life will go on and new avenues will open. The only thing that makes this unique is the speed at which the transition is happening because AI seemingly popped overnight in 2022 and disruption is happening across the board at the same time.
Or....and follow me here....I'm taking these people EXACTLY at their word:
QuoteMechanize was launched on Thursday via a post on X by its founder, famed AI researcher Tamay Besiroglu. The startup’s goal, Besiroglu wrote, is “the full automation of all work” and “the full automation of the economy.”
Does that mean Mechanize is working to replace every human worker with an AI agent bot? Essentially, yes. The startup wants to provide the data, evaluations, and digital environments to make worker automation of any job possible.
Besiroglu even calculated Mechanize’s total addressable market by aggregating all the wages humans are currently paid. “The market potential here is absurdly large: workers in the US are paid around $18 trillion per year in aggregate. For the entire world, the number is over three times greater, around $60 trillion per year,” he wrote.
Do they want to replace all human labor and eliminate all human wages? They say they do. We should fucking believe them. We ignore their stated goals at our peril.
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6 minutes ago, Goredho said:
I hear you. An attempt is certainly being made, but that does not meant it will succeed. Fight against the provision in the big beautiful bill that aims to bar states from regulating of AI for the next 10 years.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-big-beautiful-bill-ai-regulation-ban-tech-2025-6
That's part of the unstoppable dismal tide to which I was referring. We're hell-bent on social and species suicide, and to show our commitment to that goal, we'll ban all suicide-prevention activities for the next decade.
It's fucking insanity. Collective insanity, towards a suicidal goal, which we are actively fucking cheering on. What the fucking fuck is fucking wrong with us?
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Jesus fucking Christ. This country is using….Auburn athletics…as a pipeline for national leadership.
There’s really no doubt that this country has long-since jumped the shark, and would be best off if it was consumed in the cleansing flames of a total apocalypse.