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Posts posted by Vertigo
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22 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:
Why would Watson get upset if Texas pursues Pola-Gates? Pola-Gates is a safety.
Maybe not Watson, but Adimora might not like it.
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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
Not sure how dirty that recruitment was, but his helicopter dad was brad mccoy levels except hes also apparently a dirt bag as well.
Shady dirtbag helicopter dad, but an up and up recruitment? If that was really the case maybe he learned something in Cam Newton’s Dad’s church.
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6 minutes ago, SLChorn said:
Here are his mid-season highlights. His team just lost this weekend, so the full highlights should be out soon.
Considering over half of that highlight reel is from one game, I get the idea..
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9 hours ago, Machinator said:
That's the not the same and you know it. If we had made a bowl game and D'Onta had skipped it, there would have been a lot more mixed feelings from this community and others.
Doubtful, he was really beat up at the end of the season.
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6 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:
Someone kindly remind me why Herman and Co weren't seriously recruiting Carter? Was it off the field concerns?
Mental eval/shady recruiting. That bears out with a late flip and most likely shady shit from both aggy and Bama during his recruitment. It’s almost like Herman knows what he is doing or something.
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4 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:
Will Grier could snap his leg in half in the bowl game and his wife and kid would still be better off financially than 99% of the rest of the country and 99.999% of the state of WV. Yes I understand not wanting to risk millions on one last game but don't try and act like he's justified more than anyone else because he's married with a kid.
But not playing in that game guarantees that your wife and kid may never have to work a day in their life. Easy decision here, its the same reason we all wished D’onta Foreman well when he declared early and didnt bitch about him coming back.
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17 hours ago, texifornia said:
I'd have to think Riley is well aware of him and has decided to skip the circus.
Riley will catch him in 3 years at the draft
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2 minutes ago, DeweyCox said:
Glass, RB from Katy.
Just reading that, the mind assumes fragility. I bet most of the folks here that “do not want” haven’t even watched him, due to the name and location. But, and that’s a big but, I like big butts and I cannot lie.
(Glass), (RB from Katy) is a double negative, so it’s a positive.
I asked ogre what he thinks about Warren and he said he (ogre) likes to see homeless people naked.
I couldn’t deal with the anxiety of not knowing how the class would play out, so I called the psychic hotline. I asked her a few questions to verify her authenticity, to which she answered Velociraptor, Good Housekeeping and John Stamos. The last answer threw me a bit, since she’s a she, so I asked her one more. “Sex Panther”, she replied. At that point, I knew she was good...(it’s made from bits of real panther). This is a transcription of that conversation:
Sylvia: Does the letter “A” mean anything to you?
I hung up immediately, because it costs like $3/minute and my mom gets pissed at that kind of stuff.
What could it all mean? Cain? Sanders? MaCoy? Watkins, Waddle and Wilson (Garrett)?
Before I go, does anyone know why George Michael was never gonna dance again?
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5 minutes ago, texifornia said:
He did just spoil Jalen Wydermyer's commitment, so there's flashes of the old Hamm.
That’s the only notable thing to happen to aggy recruiting in weeks. I am pretty sure Hamm is subject to Jimbo’s recruiting and also monthly cycle.
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53 minutes ago, Machinator said:
Oh shit. Thats a nice move.
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3 minutes ago, Machinator said:
What a neat deal
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1 hour ago, Katfid54 said:
I may be in the minority here, but I think people who start posts by saying, "I may be in the minority here" are pussy ass bitches.
Are you calling me a pussy ass bitch? I will have you know I am a basic ass bitch you bedazzled snowflake.
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18 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
Dele might never play a serious down at Texas. Marcus Washington is a stud. Carson was never a highly ranked guy anyway.
But, taking absolutely none of that into account...Go look at Mookie Cooper's highlights and silently go sit in the corner in shame, sir.
So you are projecting an uncommitted player in the class of 2020 as to why I am wrong? Cool cool cool.
Cooper looks legit, and I may be underselling Washington, but just my naked eye tells me that most of their top end kids in state would be mid tier guys here that TCU and Tech would be fighting over.
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I may be in the minority here, but I am not super excited by this new Missouri pipeline we have. Washington's Sr. Huddle is pretty good, but nothing jumps out at me on it as being a game breaker. Daniel Carson was pretty meh and needs a few seasons in the weight room before even considering hitting the field. Dele is TBD, i want to believe he will be good, but Floyd may jump him from Day 1. I am not sure both of those guys will see the field at the same time, but I could be very wrong on that.
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47 minutes ago, closetojumping said:
The odds are far higher of him flaming out before reaching the majors than they are of him getting to the majors. Then he'd have to stick in the majors, which are long odds for a guy in low-A ball, even if a 1st round pick. Then he'd have to excel and be worth an offer after his arbitration period, and then he'd have to be highly valued. If all of that happens, then he'd get a multi-year offer from someone for $40+million, which is what your post presumes.
From reading this thread again, it's pretty fucking clear a lot of folks don't have a clue how contracts and careers progress in baseball. Unless this dude is Pete Incaviglia, he's not jumping to MLB in 2019. If he kicks maximum ass, he'll progress through levels at .75 years per level. That's crushing it in the minors. That projects him to the majors at the age of 25. Then he's got 5 or 6 years under the rookie agreement including arbitration. He's likely to be 30-32 when he faces his first free agent agreement. This isn't the 1990's or 2000's in which analytics and age progression played virtually no role in the offering of contracts. Toolsy free agents dependent upon speed in their early 30's get 4 years at $48-$60million if they're excellent. More if they're truly elite. A whole lot less for the vast majority of the rest of the players.
The guy has defied odds already, so he certainly could get to the top, but presuming that is silly. His baseball feats are far less storied than his football feats. He's a projectable, toolsy guy. There are 10 of those taken in the 1st round every year and 1 out of 10,000 ever become Mike Trout or Ken Griffey jr, and 1 out of every 1000 become Nick Markakis or Josh Reddick.
On the flip side of this take, I think you would see him with a relatively short career as an NFL player. Let's assume he lasts for 7-9 seasons, which is more than double the NFL average. A high first round pick would get a 6 year contract worth about 20-25 million, only part of which is guaranteed. Then let's say he plays good enough to see a second contract as a backup since I don't believe he will last as a starter long term due to his size and the speed of the NFL. You would conceivably see a second contract in the 10-15 million range over 3-4 years, only about half of which is guaranteed. You would bring his career earnings to 30-40 million unless he is the next Russell Wilson.
In baseball, if we assume he hits the majors by age 26 due to his elite speed and defense, he could easily play into his mid to late 30's and see possibly two free agent contracts. Qualifying offers in MLB for one season are over $17 million this year fully guaranteed. I would imagine he would have room to play through two $50 million plus contracts plus his rookie deal and those deals are fully guaranteed. Long term, I think the kid should stick with baseball.
There were similar arguments being made over Charlie Ward back in the 90's on whether he should go NFL or NBA. Ward lasted 12 seasons in the NBA and far surpassed what he would have made as even an NFL star.
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41 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:
What a reasonable take. Is the rest of the pac 12 like this?
When Colorado and Nebraska left, I was holding out hope that we would add the Arizona schools. I have always liked both.
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11 hours ago, Carl! said:
does he sound excited?
In a Keanu Reaves kind of way.
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25 minutes ago, Napoleon said:
These guys look more like seniors in college than seniors in high school.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I was as big my senior year in high school as they probably were in 7th grade.-
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12 minutes ago, Beigebandit said:
She has definitely had some work done, but I wouldn’t kick her cosmetically enhanced ass outta bed
Congrats to Mr Cupp, and Mr personal trainer.
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3 minutes ago, Gaelic said:
Michael Vick says hi.
Ok? Vick was half the passer Murray is in college. But if that is who you are splitting hairs against it kind of proves my point.
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5 hours ago, SHOOTER12 said:
After looking at his HS highlights I'm amazed he wasn't a turnover machine his whole life. How in the hell he didn't fumble or get the ball knocked out continually is a miracle. I wonder if any of his coaches ever freaked out over the way he carried the ball like a loaf of bread?
When you are a 4.3 running waterbug with zero hit radius and who slides if you get within 5 yards of him, you can get away with being a little loose with the ball security. He is the fastest and quickest little shit I have ever seen at the QB position. He has a truly incredible skill set.
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1 hour ago, TexasMan said:
RE: Jeffrey Carter's visit to Bama this weekend:
Brauninger: "We're gonna have to weather the storm on that. His camp says everything is good here, but strange things happen in Tuscaloosa..."
Looch: "Yea, I'm not a fan of how they recruit over there. I'm not a fan of any of the way how they recruit, but that's the battles you fight."
Sounds like they're ready to be butthurt. Starts at 24:10
The rest of the show is about them sucking each other's dicks about their impending class, so no reason to listen to the rest - unless you're into that kinda thing.
https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/texags.blob.core.windows.net/audio/0110261-dkis.mp3
Why do you subject yourself to this every week? It is like the mad magazine of football shows.
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6 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:
Maybe they'll stop telling it to recruits when they get one fucking kid that fits that mold to actually fucking commit to the program? I'm not sure if you noticed, but Jake Smith, Marcus Washington and Jordan Whittington don't exactly fit the fucking mold of a 6'4"-6'6" WR bruiser of a WR.
What, do you fucking think Braydon Liebrock is going to get pissed off and decommit because of our pitch to players at positions he doesn't play?
This isnt rocket science. If you dont have a dynamic player at their position you sell the “we dont have anyone like you” angle. If you have a stud there already they say “you can be the next (insert name). Look at how we use him in our offense!” Shitty teams sell depth charts, good teams sell championships. Tada! I just became a better recruiter than Giles. Maybe we could make a mad libs or bingo card to help him out.
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6 minutes ago, Chrispy said:
Whoa, my friend.
After all of this madness with his recruitment, if Higdon scoops this I am going to laugh. Honestly though, he gone.
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In fairness, I bemoan the scheduling of Maryland and would love to be sitting at 10 wins right now.