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bad_teammate

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  1. 3 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

    I expect little to no acknowledgement of this, per Surly protocol.  

    We have been monsters forever and Trump has made it a lot worse. I'm not sure if literally anyone here has said we had good immigration policy in the past.

  2. We have spent every moment since 9/11 building a police state. Dubya and Obama alike constructed an authoritarian system and kept it at bay with their basic human decency. 

     

    We have been building towards concentration camps since 9/11. We're there now.

    Enjoy.

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  3. 40 minutes ago, JohnRedHorn said:

    These are the beginning of concentration camps. And we're stuffing them with children. 

    No, these are already concentration camps. We are already at the concentration camp stage.

    The stated purpose of these children's concentration camps is to deter immigration. The mindset here is that you ratchet up the punishment to deter a behavior. So, this is an escalation. When immigration does not stop, the mindset is already in place that an escalation is needed in order to create a deterrent.

    So the question is: "What escalation comes next when this escalation doesn't work?"

    Well, one thing we can do is look at our wonderful ally Israel. To protect their borders, they are now shooting unarmed people on the opposite side. We might start doing that.

    "BUT THAT'S CRAZY!"

    Yes, but think of how to boil a frog.

    Right now America is largely furious about children's concentration camps. But that will normalize. Give it a few months. Approval for children's concentration camps will be at 60+% among Republicans. Ask Republicans in February of 2015 what they would think of children's concentration camps; approval would have been in the teens.

    We will have always had children's concentration camps. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

    A fresh train of refugees will come steaming up through Mexico. Oh god it's not working, we have to escalate to save ourselves, we must secure a future...

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  4. 15 hours ago, Eastwood said:

    It has been turning into a "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail" type situation. He looks like a rampant asshole, possibly psychotic, but it is just an alleged snapshot into very private moments between two people. Between two consenting adults. Is that enough to lose everything? What is privacy? Should we all be on notice that we can lose our jobs for non-criminal acts that occur in our own homes years ago?

    I'm in no way attempting to defend or vindicate Hardwick here. We've all known a girl who had been in a relationship like that, it seems, and it is absolutely awful. But when it comes to a person's past, what is the standard? When does private behavior become an offense worth firing over? How much power should a story that consists of snapshots over the course of a several year relationship have over his future? How many of us would be comfortable with someone taking magnifying glass over our past? At what point do non-criminal actions become the true past? When can anyone truly put the past behind them these days?

    Literally not something the victims can do anything about. The corporations do the firing, not the victims.

  5. 41 minutes ago, Texas73 said:

    I hope the 11% of Bernie supporters who voted for Trump and proud of themselves. They fucked all of us. Fuck off.

    Go fuck yourself with this shit. Bernie was attractive to Trump-leaners because Sanders is a populist and, far more importantly, he was attractive to people who hated establishment Democrats.

    Sanders actually had coalitions beyond the most loyal Dem base.

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    Party seems to have had something to do with it — Sanders-Trump voters were much less likely than Sanders-Clinton or Sanders-third party voters to have been Democrats. Likewise, approval of President Barack Obama appears to be related — Sanders-Trump voters approved of Obama much less than other Sanders primary voters.

    And even then, Sanders primary voters were FAR more loyal to Clinton than Clinton 2008 primary voters were to Obama.

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    And according to one 2008 study, around 25 percent of Clinton primary voters in that election ended up voting for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the general.

    All Hillarymen can fuck off into the woods with Abuela.

  6. 1 hour ago, Bill Clinton said:

    1. They are separated to determine if the people taking them across the border illegally are actually their parents or some kind of human trafficker going to sell them as sex slaves to some rich pedophile.

    What sort of investigations are being done? You're a Pizzagate freak making shit up.

  7. 55 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    From the Hill piece...

    So Schumer wants Trump to stop prosecuting illegal entry for these family units instead of a legislative fix, is that what it boils down to?

    As predictable as the sunrise, here's Anastasis to open the door to the normalization of fascism...

    There is no need for a "legislative fix" to the issue of taking children away from their parents and imprisoning them. What Trump is doing is kidnapping kids to hold hostage for his desired immigration reform.

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  8. With garbage humans, you at least know what they believe. They have skin in the game. With the pundit class (and the pseudo-pundits on forums), they exist as almost nothing at all but hot-take-makers desperately searching for ways to seem above the fray no matter what is happening, no matter how trivial or important. Living, breathing instantiations of "Well, actually..."

     

    --- "Why yes, concentration camps for little kids are bad, but did you know some libs once made a big deal out of fish food. Makes you think!"

  9. 3 minutes ago, relapse98 said:

    Its gonna be a trumpkin that completely bought in and finally comes to the dismay that trump isn't a trumpkin and isn't draining shit. That's who will end up taking him out.

    Yep. That dude in the armored car on the bride is an example.

  10. 7 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

    What Hugo fails to show is a real timeline. The thing is that "other blaming" leads to "dehumanizing others" leads to "actions against others" leads to "extermination of others." The "blaming" started earlier, but the Nazis started deportations, concentration camps, and forced ghettos in 1933. They started extermination in 1941, 8 years later. 

    Yep.

    History doesn't repeat, it rhymes.

     

  11. 14 minutes ago, Mole said:

    At its very core, there's something real and unjust they are seeing and experiencing. We should deal with it.

    One of the roots of Trumpism is the death of the middle class and the American Dream. Trump (disingenuously) ran on that in a very open and obvious way. Everyone gets a well-paying job; everyone gets health care. Leftist populist economics solve that problem, which is why Obama->Trump transfers liked Sanders.

    Another root of Trumpism is racism/nationalism. Welp... TRUMP 2020!

  12. 1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

    She didn’t win the election, and she’s has no influence in law making, so why does her opinion matter? She did, however, take kids away from their parents in Benghazi and then try to cover it up for political gain. Not to mention a slush fund alleging to help children worldwide.

    You’re right, she is terrible. She lost to Donald Fucking Trump.

    Oh OK cool you're a crazy person. Nice.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

    I just don't remember any political blowback over her remarks.  CNN would have a cow if Trump made these remarks.

    So she should've been equally criticized as Trump for saying way less offensive and stupid things? Sensitive white boys always so sad.

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  14. 3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

    The hysterical reaction to everything Trump does (OMG he dumped out the fish food! da tweets!) washes out the real deplorable shit that needs to be confronted head on.

    Anastasis, you are the worst fucking pundit going. The most anodyne, smooth-brained CNN Twitter hot-take-maker given breath.

    You have no god damned idea what washes anything else out in anyone else's mind.

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