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  1. Just now, Spankytoes said:

    I’ve immigrated a wife, MIL and FIL here through legal means and I’m a tax payer. So yeah, I’m going to give an opinion.

    Have all the bad opinions you want. No one called you racist so stop with the false victim bullshit.

  2. 3 minutes ago, JBJ said:

    That is a big problem with immigration in general.  As an alternative to detainment, why not ankle bracelets?

    Granting them near-immediate asylum and getting them involved in our society and economy in a positive way. I think we should try that.

  3. 6 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

    Should everyone over the legal limit be arrested when they drive a car? If they made it home OK, and lives/property were not damaged, does that make the fact that they drive drunk OK? If they are caught, and don’t have the means to pay for the consequences, should there be ramifications for their failure to pay?

    What you're doing is engaging in the normal discussion of different crimes, which is good.

    Everyone who drives over the limit should be, at the very least, temporarily detained and sent home in an Uber with a citation.

    Everyone who flees a nation of murder and extreme poverty, seeking a better life in America, should be kept with their family and treated with dignity and respect until they are granted asylum.

    Everyone who rapes a baby to death should be imprisoned for life.

    Everyone who throws a gum wrapper on the sidewalk should get, at the very least, a dirty look.

    An old lady who accidentally turns the wrong way onto a one-way street should get a quick wave from an officer to make sure she turns around.

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    We can play the “what-if” game all day to find loopholes in any example. If you Jaywalk, you run the risk of getting a ticket. That’s a little less severe than driving drunk, which is why the consequences for doing such aren’t on par. 

     

    Playing the "what-if" game is what human beings do. It's the whole fucking point of a society.

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  4. 1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

    I asked above what the appropriate way to enforce the law would be that doesn’t cost us more $ to pay for non-citizens breaking the law. I’ll ask again.

    I agree, it’s completely shitty and I hate it. I also hate that gun owners aren’t more on board with seriously restricting ownership when kids are constantly dying in this country. But, what’s the answer?

    Please take a moment to consider the conflict between the two bolded sections.

    How much do you think it would cost to humanely house these people while their cases are being considered? How much would it cost you, specifically?

  5. 5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

    One thing is clear: the women Donald Trump is putting out there to talk about this are struggling with it.

    lol fuck them I hope they all burn in hell

    10 years from now they'll be weeping about how hard it was to shove little Ricardo into the oven but they had a duty. And America will applaud their bravery.

  6. Just now, Spankytoes said:

    Which of our laws are just suggestions? You seem to have a distinction because of the manner of which it is enforced.

    Literally everyone who is not a sociopath holds laws in varying degrees of respect and wants them enforced variably. You do, too.

    Should everyone who jaywalks be ticketed? What about someone who walks out of a bar drunk and gets into an uber?

    Everyone is for the selective enforcement of laws and for the selective use of sentencing. The only difference is which laws, which sentences, and the ethical/moral standards behind those distinctions.

  7. 1 minute ago, NIUHuskies said:

    We have had our fingers on Latin America since the Monroe doctrine. It is our policies that have shaped the directions of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala. Further, the cartels are in power because of the addictions of American citizens. Those cartels are the ones who create the violence that the refugees are fleeing.

    "Look, just because we help create the problem doesn't mean we're responsible for helping with the problem's consequences." - People who talk about personal responsibility all the time

  8. 1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

    If a 42 year old dude fucked your 15 year old daughter consensually after meeting over the internet  I’m sure you’d say “Eh, she’s close enough”.

    You let me know which ones of these law enforcements I should get outraged over. 

    I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Explain. You seem desperate to find some kind of ideological cover for your morally and ethically untenable position.

  9. 1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

    What consequences should people have as a deterrent to blatantly ignore the fact that we have a legal process that all are welcome to follow and their inability to do so is affecting our citizen’s future?

    None. They're fleeing violence, oppression, and extreme poverty. Deterrents won't work unless we make our nation literally worse than theirs. Which, apparently, many of you want to fucking do.

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    At what point does the finger get pointed at the people violating the policy rather than the policy enforcers themselves? 

    The intellectual equivalent of "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"

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    What’s the answer to solve the problem, and make no mistake, it IS a problem?

    It's not a problem. We are not suffering due to letting these people in. It is a manufactured outrage largely about racism/tribalism/ethnocentrism.

    The only problems worth discussing are the ones that motivate these people to take such a huge risk in the first place.

  10. 7 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

    And from a cultural assimilation perspective, Mexico makes more sense....if this really was about asylum.  

    lol this is so fucking dumb

    Just now, RandomIdoit said:

    And that is the kind of thinking a lot of people are against.

    Yes, a lot of people who are heartless pieces of shit. God point.

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