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Aqua Buddha

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  1. Fair point. I do like the way you put it about the demon. (I've equated food with alcohol but was told that was wrong after being told food was an addiction like alcohol so I'm confused about what the rules are.) But yes, food can be a demon like sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. There is an emotional and chemical component to it. But if we're not back to putting obese people on par with addicts, then their first step is to admit they are powerless and need help. The emotional component with food is huge. Sawbonz has been very informative with his posts and links. I've actually learned a lot. However, while he's right about some people being chemically wired to never feel full, have you ever seen anyone binge eat salads, fruits, and vegetables?
  2. Didn't say you have to run. (Running is hard on even a healthy body.) There are plenty of other exercise options. Even walking is good. But yes, there are people that are saying reducing calories and exercise isn't a sure fire option. BTW, I've never said it was easy. I've repeatedly said it's really fucking hard and is a multi year process. I just take umbrage with the idea that it's impossible. I was today years old when I learned my wife knows at least 10 grown assed women who are on Adderall. Let's throw in Ozymic and just keep everyone medicated for the rest of our lives.
  3. My position is that with a proper diet and exercise you won't be obese. Quite the hot take. BTW, this weekend I did a 10K, hot power yoga class, and a 15 mile bike ride. (The yoga class was prolly the hardest of the three, actually.) This week is taper week for a half marathon. I'm almost 50 years old. No one said it's easy. It's just not impossible. It happens all the time.
  4. Well, then in "some ways" it's easy to not be obese. Just stop eating so much and gets some exercise.
  5. What did I miss below? BTW, yes you need food to survive but you don't need the volume that goes into being +300 lbs. It’s so easy in some ways to quit smoking/ and I did it for a decade- just don’t go in the gas station and buy a pack. You don’t need it. Same with drinking- just don’t buy it- you don’t need it to survive. Both of those things have been equated to heroin or crack and are as difficult to quit as each of them, yet they are EASIER to quit than requiring your entire eating system for a morbidly obese person, because as you’ve pointed out that person HAS to eat.
  6. Wait? What? It's easy to quit smoking and drinking? What the fuck? You should go into the alcoholic thread and say that. I dare you. Also, I've said this before. I never said you were sub human or anything. Tone down the drama. You said losing weight was impossible and again, you are wrong. You are not an expert on weight loss and fitness. You should also approach this with an ounce of humility and understand that you have an emotional problem with food. I'm sure you've stated it somewhere but if you haven't, you need to accept responsibility for your actions and take control of your life. If you don't address the diet, that surgery won't work out. You say it's easy for an alcoholic to quit drinking but I tell you to mix in a salad and some exercise and you turn into a complete vagine. Good hell.
  7. OK, fine. I guess they aren't like alcoholics now. Let's move the goalposts. Never mind that after a tough day, the fat person may stress eat a bowl of ice cream for the same reason an alcoholic needs to down a bottle of bourbon. Let's go with sex then. Like food, we need it to survive and you can be a sex addict. We have emotional connections to both sex and food and you can have an unhealthy relationship with both. No one would shrug their shoulders about someone who has sex with 3 street walkers per week and say it's out of their control. That would be ridiculous. But yes, the emotional relationships between us and food, alcohol, and sex have a lot of parallels. Why does someone overeat? Why does someone drink? Why does someone have destructive sex? There is no set answer because everyone is different.
  8. With all due respect, I disagree with on the statement that it has little to do with geographic location. The data is clear that some cities and states are simply fatter than others and it's because of a variety of factors, most notable diet. I find it believable that years of bad diet can rewire a person's brain much to the degree than alcohol can. Long term bad diet on a large scale explains the rise in obesity nationwide and the increase in recent years and particularly in the United States. Either way, though, diet is the key here and these pills and surgeries are simply diet management tools. What's the long term solution with Ozympic? Should someone be on it literally the rest of their lives? Data seems to indicate that the weight immediately comes back on once you stop. That's not a long term solution. When I say "diet," I'm referring to both what people are eating and how much of if they are eating.
  9. I never said he said it was impossible. I've said that before. Wulaw said that and he's wrong. What I'm asking is what is causing the underlying conditions that make people predisposed to obesity? Obesity has steadily increased the past decade and it's more prevalent in certain parts of the country. What is driving that? Addiction to food and addiction to drugs and alcohol have a lot of parallels. Sorry but that's true.
  10. Thanks I didn't realize that. I'm asking honest questions here and trying to get honest answers. I'm asking him direct questions and he's giving me vague answers. At one point he was saying my examples of weight loss were "anecdotal" but never mentioned that they were real world stories. I'd like to think that if they were one offs, then the medical community would contact me and ask for details for the scientific method and shit. I guess not, though.
  11. Then explain it to me like I'm five. I said that earlier. Expose me as a complete moron, He's smart enough to know the second level of questioning. It's the diet.
  12. BTW, since we're talking about Wulaw, he's clearly an "emotional" case. He's talked in the other thread about it. He's been fairly transparent, actually. Most obese people are emotional cases. You don't physically need 5K calories to get through the day. I've really liked your scientific perspective on this. I've actually learned a lot. But you need to understand when it comes to things like obesity and alcoholism that the emotions are far more important than you think they are.
  13. Not a pimp..... A client, yes. A pimp? No.
  14. OK, I've respected your knowledge but at this point you need to respect mine. To say weight loss efforts by socio economic class are irrelevant except for access to health care is, quite frankly, ignorant. I don't mean that as an insult. I just know what people eat and why they eat it. I more than respect your life's work so respect mine and, by the way, you're wrong. You can ask me any question like I've asked you and I'll answer them with no judgement. However, you are completely in the dark if you think think that emotions have nothing do with food. I've learned things by your postings because you're an expert in your field. I'm an expert in cheap food for Americans. You should learn something from me if you're going to diagnose fatness in American patients.
  15. Yes, it's the fat person thread. That includes how to not be fat. I respect your opinion on this but I've also asked you to break it down by socio economic and regional differences and you haven't and we both know why and that's fine. This isn't the cancer thread. That is a disease that picks people at random. This is the fat thread and that does not pick people at random. What you are missing is the emotional part. You are a subject matter expert on the physical body. I am an expert on the emotional. I get people to want what they do not need. On another thread, you would learn that I am a purveyor of high end whores. You could ask the same question I ask of that fats. "Why do you do it?" Well, that's complicated in both cases and in each case, the emotional far outweighs the physical. In short, it's what do you eat and why do you eat it?
  16. As a physician, shouldn't you want to know the root cause of a condition in order to prevent it? Also, if addressing the root cause can also cure the symptoms and prevent surgery, isn't that a good thing for the patient?
  17. If anything, Okie City may not take that. That's a shitload of draft picks for a franchise that seems to draft well. Then, does Luka pair well with SGA? (No.) Sure, the starting five with Luka, SGA, JW, and Chet looks great but how well do they play with each other?
  18. What is the root cause of the obesity and why does it vary by geographic region?
  19. The real separator is income/zip code. Poor whites, black, and hispanics all have similar metrics because they all eat like ass and don't move. Same with upscale whites, blacks, and hispanics. They eat better and exercise more. Now, you'll get a bit of sympathy from me about how difficult it is to be working poor while also eating better and exercising. I also know they just like shit food. And the end of the day, it's not demographics or molecular makeup. The root cause is diet and exercise.
  20. You don't have to see it. You know the answer already in both education, income, and rural vs urban. Poor and rural people eat like ass and don't exercise for a whole list of reasons. A good example right now is Cracker Barrel. They're having all sorts of problems. They're business model is delivering a pornographic amount of food to pseudo rural types along the interstates for $12. Their customer base has a very low price ceiling but they still expect the volume of food. (Why?) With inflation being what it is, CB, can't deliver on the bottom line. Their trade off is either raise prices or smaller portion sizes. Instead, they're selling booze. (Lulz.) Guess where CB is big around the country? Now, Sawbonz (who seems very well educated on this, BTW) might come along and tell me these people's systems have been rewired because of their diet. That may be true but the root cause is still the diet.
  21. So, it's the biochemical pathways? My mistake. Sorry about that. (Really.) How and why have those changed for certain parts of America and not others and why did they change so much over the past few years? Explain it to me like I'm five. Something has changed in America (see below) and it's been region specific (see below). And no, you never said they were impossible to overcome. Wulaw did. That's when I stepped it. He clearly doesn't understand diet, health, and fitness and I don't mean that as an insult, believe it or not. He was here lecturing everyone and had zero humility. Recovering alcoholics would never tolerate that mindset from someone who needs recovery. He was wanting to be on par with alcoholics and I treated him like that. Someone should ask whim "why do you eat so much?" Someone once asked me that about booze and I embarrassingly didn't have an answer. Whatever that reason is is a far bigger driver than his biochemical pathways. These people can't have it both ways. They can't want to be medically on par with alcoholics but get mad when we treat them like that when they won't even take the first step.
  22. Then educate me. Why are people in certain regions in America more prone to obesity than others? If it's beyond their control, why are they different? Also, why have obesity rates spiked in recent years? What has changed in the brain or gut in that short amount of time and why didn't it effect people around the country equally? Serious question.
  23. For fun but it'll never happen. Thing is, if I'm Dallas, I'd consider this. Blows everything up and gets some draft picks. Dallas should ask for the 2026 Clipper pick. That's the tasty one.
  24. The follow through is the key. Results are far from immediate. In fact, I've seen people gain weight initially because they're adding muscle mass or eating more because their body needs it. This can be a long hard process and most people don't have the patience. Sure, my wife went from fat to a 3:45 marathon but that took literally six years. The real issue that these pills and surgeries can't fix is someone's relationship with food and that should be examined on a deeper level. (Drugs and alcohol are the same.) You can have a surgery or get a pill but if you don't examine that underlying cause, you'll be back where you started unless you plan on taking Ozympic the rest of your life. (They spend $100M/yr on advertising, so maybe that's part of the plan.) The Suplee article does a very good job on both of these and shows that yes, it can be done.
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