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47 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

 

They always have been and will continue to be extremely cautious with him as they are with all of their players coming off injury. But he's not on any sort of permanent minutes restriction as far as I know. He played 20 minutes against OKC. 25 last night. They are just ramping him up.  He was playing ~35 minutes a game before he got hurt. He's 21. You guys are dreaming / being ridiculous.

With regard to comparisons to Holmgren, you're the doctor... you tell me the likelihood of the deep vein thrombosis coming back to be something chronic or that is career altering? That seems like a one off, especially in the upper body. Chet, on the other hand, had a lisfranc injury before he ever played an NBA game and fractured his pelvis. He seems a lot more fragile to me and he doesn't look like he's filling out the way Wemby is even though he's two years older.

I hope the Spurs remain extremely cautious with Vic not only for his long term health but also to the point where they keep him out enough to not hit 65 games and isn't eligible for the super max. Helps their cap down the road. As long as he's healthy for the playoffs... 

My doctor hat?  Not even close - anyone growing like Wemby is at that age is MUCH more susceptible to injury.  That’s not normal and in the rare instances you see it, yeah, the vast majority of times you start to see chronic issues.  
Maybe it was BS rumors but several sources said he grew 2-3 inches in the last year or so.  That’s absolutely insane at his age and prior height.  
 

edit: tons of studies.  Not often I post NIH here…

Overall injury incidence and burden were greater in pre-PHV players with quicker growth rates compared to players growing moderately and slowly. All in all, players with more rapid growth-rates were at higher risk for growth-related injuries in all pre-, circa- and post-PHV periods. Post-PHV, the incidence and burden of joint/ligament injuries were 2.4 and 2.6-times greater in players growing slowly compared to players growing moderately. Practitioners should monitor growth rate and maturity status and consider their interaction to facilitate the design of targeted injury risk reduction strategies.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10765440/

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23 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

My doctor hat?  Not even close - anyone growing like Wemby is at that age is MUCH more susceptible to injury.  That’s not normal and in the rare instances you see it, yeah, the vast majority of times you start to see chronic issues.  
Maybe it was BS rumors but several sources said he grew 2-3 inches in the last year or so.  That’s absolutely insane at his age and prior height.  
 

edit: tons of studies.  Not often I post NIH here…

Overall injury incidence and burden were greater in pre-PHV players with quicker growth rates compared to players growing moderately and slowly. All in all, players with more rapid growth-rates were at higher risk for growth-related injuries in all pre-, circa- and post-PHV periods. Post-PHV, the incidence and burden of joint/ligament injuries were 2.4 and 2.6-times greater in players growing slowly compared to players growing moderately. Practitioners should monitor growth rate and maturity status and consider their interaction to facilitate the design of targeted injury risk reduction strategies.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10765440/

Thanks for the article. He's such a physical outlier anyway, One of one. I don't know how analogous adolescent academy soccer players playing for a club team in Europe are to the type of specific training and attention to injury prevention that Wemby has been going through since he was 14 years old. The strained calf and the ankle sprains I think are par for the course for NBA players in general. 

I was speaking more specifically to the deep vein thrombosis than growth-related injuries like Osgood-Schlatter´s disease. Since that's what knocked him out of the season last year. I think the reports that he's still growing are bullshit, but who knows? He played 71 games as a rookie and then 46 out of 52 games last year before the DVT. But for sure injuries were always going to be the biggest question about his career.

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5 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Thanks for the article. He's such a physical outlier anyway, One of one. I don't know how analogous adolescent academy soccer players playing for a club team in Europe are to the type of specific training and attention to injury prevention that Wemby has been going through since he was 14 years old. The strained calf and the ankle sprains I think are par for the course for NBA players in general. 

I was speaking more specifically to the deep vein thrombosis than growth-related injuries like Osgood-Schlatter´s disease. Since that's what knocked him out of the season last year. I think the reports that he's still growing are bullshit, but who knows? He played 71 games as a rookie and then 46 out of 52 games last year before the DVT. But for sure injuries were always going to be the biggest question about his career.

For me he passes the eye ball test.  He doesn’t have the acromegaly features Oden did for example.  I think he will be around a long time and be an all time great but anyone that height is a crapshoot.   

DVT’s are very often a sign of some other underlying condition so I can’t be sure on that one.  
 

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11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

For me he passes the eye ball test.  He doesn’t have the acromegaly features Oden did for example.  I think he will be around a long time and be an all time great but anyone that height is a crapshoot.   

DVT’s are very often a sign of some other underlying condition so I can’t be sure on that one.  
 

Good insight.  Thanks.

I remember after Chet's hip fracture an orthopedic surgeon wrote that it was fluky but he got very lucky.  Said that had he broken the actual hip socket, it might have ruined his career.  He said that the fracture he did have was easily rehabbed but a VERY painful injury.  That bore out to be true and he played heavy minutes throughout the playoffs.

He'll always be rail thin is my guess....

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