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atomheartbevo

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  1. On 1/3/2020 at 11:11 AM, Loco said:

    The IT Crowd   ...  generally sit com funny with a few episodes that had me laughing so hard.  Moss is the man.

    Check out this series (have to find the rest on YouTube).  Moss is playing himself, and it features Matt Berry from IT Crowd and What We do in the Shadows

     

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    14 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

    Senate Republicans are currently parroting Russian talking points.  They won't give a fuck about Iranian optics.  They'll do mental gymnastics around it.

    Lindsey Graham and Kennedy from LA likely have kompromat against them.  They'll do whatever they're told.

    Trump lost the popular vote by millions.  States that went for him flipped in 2018.

    It doesn't matter what Senate Republicans themselves think, it matters to them whether Trump will be an anchor around their necks, whether he will put their states into play.

    Trump keeps on going out there and saying that this was 100% his doing, and that he will keep on doing what he wants.

    Hell, he's out there saying Obama should have been the one to do this.

  3. 9 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

    So for any of you who have been more recently curious about one thing.  When we were there in 2014 one of the rangers was telling me that they were going to be embarking on a project to remove a number of trees from the battlefield.  Normally that sounds counterintuitive for the park service to want to do, but in this case what they were endeavoring to do was to take the field back to 1863 status and try to maintain it that way.  Obviously in some places, particularly the Round Tops the Confederate side of the field etc there has been a lot of growth in 150+ years.  So any of you more recent visitors heard/seen if that actually went down.  Seems like a pretty big research and execution project.

    We visited Pea Ridge -  relatives from Arkansas, Missouri, and Texas fought there, so it was weird/cool going around and seeing where their units were. 

    Anyways, this was around 2010, and they mentioned that they were taking the battlefield back to the way it was, or were going to, based on maps and eyewitness accounts - they pointed out several areas where trees had grown up in what had been farmland prior to the battle, and that the NPS wanted to take a bunch of the battlefields back to how they were in the 1860s.

    On a side note, Pea Ridge is worth visiting if your a history buff - very well taken care, and if you're in North Texas, not that much of a drive - Vicksburg is probably closer, but there's plenty of historically-significant areas either way.

  4. 9 hours ago, Armybrat said:

    Very haunting, especially the story about Providence Spring. Be sure and take a drink from it, if still allowed.

    Did it really appear at night while you all were asleep?

  5. Just now, Nivek said:

    You think senate republicans give a shit about that?

    I think they will give a shit about dead Iranian civilians and destroyed Iranian civilian targets when it's all over the nightly news, social media, etc. heading into the election season, and they have to defend it.  And don't think the Iranian government won't put a bunch of civilians, kids included, around "cultural targets".    And American troops will die.  This is not Iraq of 2003.  Iran has been wargaming this stuff since the 1980s when they first tangled with the Navy.

    We are heading into prime election season.  This is not a 9/11 situation, nor is it a ginned-up WMD situation that people are buying off on in the short-term.  

    It's gonna be awfully hard to defend that, particularly when this is 100% on Trump, and he's out there telling everybody on twitter that it's 100% his idea.

    This is like walking into a room with shit on the walls, and Trump is standing there with shit in one hand, and a bullhorn in the other, screaming out "THIS IS ALL MY SHIT, I PUT ALL OF THIS SHIT ON THE WALLS, BEHOLD MY DIET COKE AND BIG MAC SHITS!"

    Trump is owning this 100% and Fox News,  his sons, and various Republican leaders are out there making sure Trump gets 100% credit.

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    14 minutes ago, Goredho said:

    If it really comes to blows with Iran, it will be a proxy war — and they will be the proxy.  There are a lot of foreign powers that would support them in some fashion to bleed the US.

    Azerbaijan is a Shiite country, and will have no problem allowing Russian weapons to flow through to Iran.   China will have no problem getting weapons to Iran.  Turkey as well.

    Trump probably doesn't understand that he can sanction Iran all he wants, but if nobody else gives a shit, it's useless.

  7. 31 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    You, pilot of a B-1, are ordered to strike the site of Persepolis, a purely cultural site. What do you do?

    Blow up a wedding instead?

    Okay, that was a shitty joke.  Shitty jokes aside, I don't know how the Air Force handles it, and my experience was with the Army in the 90s as an enlisted soldier, but it was beaten into our heads not to fuck around with the UCMJ.  

    You would understand it more than I, but the UCMJ was established by Congress.  I imagine that Trump ordering the Air Force to destroy cultural and civilian targets is going to get plenty of coverage in Congress, and Turtle can't stop that coverage, nor can he stop the images pouring out over social media.

    Our media does not like to cover actual footage of dead bodies these days, but many countries don't have a problem with it.

    I do not think this is something Republicans want to defend going into November.  And if Trump goes through with that, and the Iranians start sinking/killing shitloads of US sailors, that's not going to play well with the elections.  Obama was helped by the backlash over Iraq.

  8. 9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Argentinians?  Or do you mean the Crisis of 1895.

    Sorry, miserable from the pollen and not paying attention.

    But I did go back and read up on the 1980s Persian Gulf shenanigans for comparison - we had to sink a frigate of theirs, a gunboat, some speedboats, a couple of oil platforms, and down an airliner (by accident) before they finally backed down.   Up until then, they had no problem constantly fucking with us, laying mines, etc., no matter how much we retaliated or chased them off.

    So Trump just needs to kill a bunch of Iranian civilians, and maybe they will back down this time as well.  in the meantime, they've got some upgraded Chinese anti-ship missiles from the late 90s and on with a range of 100+ miles to fuck with us.  Who knows how many the Iranians manufactured.  

    Oh, and they can be driven around on the backs of trucks.

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  9. 1 minute ago, bolverk said:

    If he follows through on that threat, absolutely he is.

    Soldiers/pilots aren't supposed to be punished for disobeying an unlawful order but, practically speaking, what happens if they refuse?

    It's in the UCMJ.  If it's an unlawful order, it would create a shitstorm if somebody tried to fuck with their career - talk about your whistleblowers galore going to Congress.

    Keep in mind the military approval for Trump is around 42% as it is (Air Force has a lot of officers tilting that).  Plenty are pissed over the Kurds, and going by my friends/family that are active-duty or Reserve/NG, plenty, including former Trump supporters are pissed about him being flippant in potentially starting a war with Iran.

    Trump is in love with the whole military thing (remember the military parade he wanted in his honor?) and given he and his family's avoiding serving in said military, they don't understand that Iran is not Iraq of 2003, or Afghanistan.  

    Shit, even the Venezuelans took out a couple of British destroyers and frigates in a fairly wide-open area of the Ocean.  The Strait of Hormuz is only 20 miles across, and the Iranians have plenty of missiles that can cover that and a big chunk of the Persian Gulf.

  10. 4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

    The dignity of the office. The gravitas of an American president. 

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    I always wondered what Howard Hughes would be like if he a twitter account in his later years.   Now we know.   

  11. 21 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

    The final question is always, "does this action help or harm the long term interests of the US?" Shifting to an argument about good versus evil to justify idiocy is itself profoundly idiotic. Yet we do that all the time and keep blundering into conflicts that do us no good.

    The final question is whether or not this will get him likes from Fox and Friends.  

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    5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    Well now I guess we’ll see how deeply committed Republicans are to Iraqi democracy #wisecentristcontent

    Telling Trump he has to pull troops out will lead him to digging in his heels.  This will be fun.   

    “They told me I had to pull the beautiful troops out.  I said no, I’m the President of the United States, I’m going to send in stronger troops, right out of central casting.”

  13. 6 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

    Can't wait till my kids get a little older.  I've already told my wife we are having a history summer vacation.

    Civil War, Revolutionary War, monuments you name it.

    Wife is less than enthused to say the least.

    Ease her into it with a trip to Fredericksburg and the Pacific War Museum.   

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